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#1188395 - 04/27/09 02:12 PM Play 2 octaves instead of 1 for scales?
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When I search for scales fingering on the internet I found that almost all the time they are considering two octaves for example:

instead of: 1 2 3 - 1 2 3 4 5
two octaves: 1 2 3 - 1 2 3 4 - 1 2 3 - 1 2 3 4 5

My question is, practicing with two octaves is better?
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#1188401 - 04/27/09 02:15 PM Re: Play 2 octaves instead of 1 for scales? [Re: fe2008]
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fe2008, 123-1234-123-12345 is not meant for octaves. It's standard fingering for some scales like C major.

Playing it 123-12345-123-12345... seems very ankward, if not impossible.

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#1188412 - 04/27/09 02:23 PM Re: Play 2 octaves instead of 1 for scales? [Re: GreenRain]
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I know Green... but what if I start and finich within just one octave?
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#1188416 - 04/27/09 02:29 PM Re: Play 2 octaves instead of 1 for scales? [Re: fe2008]
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Well, if you are playing C major, only 1 octave, 123-12345 for the right and 54321-321 for the left hand would be ok.

It looks like i misunderstood your question, i thought that you were asking if it would be better to practise octave scales:)

The answer to your question is yes, its better to use entire keyboard, but only in case that your playing is on a little higher level. Are you a begginer? If you are a begginer, than 1 octave is enough. Once you have learned all the scales, or at least most of them in one octave, you can start playing them in 2,3 or more octaves (Depends from how easy/hard it will be for you).

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#1188448 - 04/27/09 03:30 PM Re: Play 2 octaves instead of 1 for scales? [Re: fe2008]
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Originally Posted By: fe2008
My question is, practicing with two octaves is better?

In general, the answer is yes. But there are lots of ways to practice scales besides just playing one or two octaves in simple unison with both hands. Alfred Publishing's Complete Guide to Scales, Arpeggios, Chords, and Cadences has a useful appendix on various scale techniques. And our own Kreisler has created a nice guide to scale practice which you can download here.
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#1188909 - 04/28/09 09:02 AM Re: Play 2 octaves instead of 1 for scales? [Re: fe2008]
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Originally Posted By: fe2008
When I search for scales fingering on the internet I found that almost all the time they are considering two octaves for example:

instead of: 1 2 3 - 1 2 3 4 5
two octaves: 1 2 3 - 1 2 3 4 - 1 2 3 - 1 2 3 4 5

My question is, practicing with two octaves is better?

Yes fe2008, playing scales for 2 octaves up and down, hands together is much better than playing only 1 octave.

With 2 octaves, you get to practice turning the thumb under the 4th finger as well as turning it under the 3rd finger.

This technique is essential to learn.


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#1189012 - 04/28/09 11:24 AM Re: Play 2 octaves instead of 1 for scales? [Re: dannylux]
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Thanks Mel. Good point!
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