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#1190386 - 04/30/09 07:54 AM
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Personally I really don't mind interpretations such as this but what do others think?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xng_QbhHGY&feature=related
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#1190426 - 04/30/09 09:14 AM
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[Re: Genaa]
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#1190529 - 04/30/09 11:42 AM
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#1190575 - 04/30/09 12:47 PM
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[Re: Monica K.]
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Like it here....that's not the way it's suppose to be played? 
Edited by Monster M&H (04/30/09 12:48 PM)
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#1190580 - 04/30/09 12:55 PM
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[Re: Les Koltvedt]
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#1190604 - 04/30/09 01:28 PM
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[Re: Diane...]
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I love that time is the true test of music. So thank-you Bach. I also think it's great to be creative and interpretive. I'm going to guess that Bach himself would like this arrangement. I don't have the luxury of a bassist or drummer so I'll have to play it the old-fashioned way.  rada
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#1190622 - 04/30/09 01:49 PM
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[Re: rada]
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Love this. Risky, dangerous, gorgeous, and confident. Bach would have flipped.
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#1190663 - 04/30/09 02:51 PM
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[Re: Genaa]
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Magnifique!
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#1190863 - 04/30/09 08:51 PM
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[Re: BJones]
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Jacques Loussier Trio? I have several of his trio's CDs. He is primarily known for Bach, but they do others, too. Have you heard Handel's Water Music or the Royal Fireworks Suite? http://www.amazon.com/Handel-Water-Music...0611&sr=1-1
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#1190896 - 04/30/09 10:17 PM
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[Re: gryphon]
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I've never heard him before, but I do like it. Thanks for sharing!
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#1191058 - 05/01/09 04:42 AM
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[Re: TX-Dennis]
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I am learning Prelude and Fugue number 12 from WTC II for my upcoming grade 8 exam and my teached suggested I listen to some Loussier and try 'swinging it' some whilst practicising - much in the vein of Kreisler's scales article about using dotted rhythms as a means of improving evenness of touch etc. All good fun I think, and perhaps even a bridge between those camps BJones feels so aggrieved (mock?) about..... actually I doubt they really exist - after all, my teacher is absolutely fine with the idea of jazzing up classical (albeit largely as a means of improving my tone and touch for classical performance...) so from where we see it "it's ok - we won't be burned at the stake by either fictional factional.. Am glad people enjoyed the clip - I am certainly thinking of getting some stuff of his on CD 
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#1191115 - 05/01/09 08:55 AM
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[Re: jazzyprof]
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Tolerable to 3-14 but he starts to murder it after that.
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#1191154 - 05/01/09 10:36 AM
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[Re: Mocheol]
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What's not to love?! I wasn't acquainted with the Jacques Loussier Trio, and I agree with Riddler that the Bach-Busoni Chaconne would get an awesome treatment by them. A couple of years ago, I became aware of the Andrzej Jagodziński Trio and their jazz interpretations of Chopin. It's great stuff; they have some videos on YouTube, too: Jagodziński Trio on YouTube Steven
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#1191161 - 05/01/09 10:56 AM
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Why murder beautiful music?
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#1191164 - 05/01/09 11:01 AM
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"What passes you ain't for you."  Steven
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Chopin: Allegro de Concert Op. 46 Schumann: Toccata Op. 7 Fauré: Ballade Op. 19
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#1191171 - 05/01/09 11:07 AM
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[Re: sotto voce]
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Unfortunately it did,nt pass me. Once my ears were brutally assailed I had no choice. It was in my way and I had to cut through it with the sword of brutal truth.
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#1191187 - 05/01/09 11:32 AM
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[Re: Jazz+]
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Murder it tis and most foul! Bach has told me he absolutely detests it.
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#1191192 - 05/01/09 11:41 AM
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[Re: Mocheol]
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#1191556 - 05/02/09 01:04 AM
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[Re: Mocheol]
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Why murder beautiful music? What are you doing in the non-classical forum anyways, since you clearly have your ears firmly shut to any non-classical music?
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#1191564 - 05/02/09 01:19 AM
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Jazz+ - LOL Great picture  Cathy
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#1191588 - 05/02/09 02:43 AM
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[Re: sotto voce]
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That's so strangely odd that you would love that, yet hate my Chopin etude improv. He's a good player, but obviously doesn't have half the chops I have when my hands are working: Cool School Chopin: http://www.mediafire.com/?d1yc1mmitew
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#1191600 - 05/02/09 04:00 AM
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[Re: Kreklewetz]
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Why murder beautiful music? What are you doing in the non-classical forum anyways, since you clearly have your ears firmly shut to any non-classical music? He has his ears shut to plenty of classical music, too, as you'll see if you read the thread entitled "COMPOSERS" over there. 
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#1191602 - 05/02/09 04:16 AM
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[Re: Genaa]
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That rocks. I especially like the opening cymbals - Bach would have agreed I'm sure, though the piece may well not be by Bach.
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#1192199 - 05/02/09 10:58 PM
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[Re: keyboardklutz]
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Well, the big problem with Mr Loussier and his little ensemble is that he cannot make his mind up what he wants to be. He trades on half playing classical pieces and then murders them by jazzing them up. This style of music is very suitable for musical schizophrenics. Its a pity in a way because Mr louissier is well able to play the piano.
If he would make his mind up where hes going it would save us all a lot of trouble because clearly hes good at neither jazz or classical.
Bye the way as I have already stated Bach has informed me that he detests Mr loussiers fumbling efforts to jazz up his work.
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#1192213 - 05/02/09 11:38 PM
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[Re: Mocheol]
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Bye the way as I have already stated Bach has informed me that he detests Mr loussiers fumbling efforts to jazz up his work. But what does Beethoven think?
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#1192308 - 05/03/09 03:57 AM
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Bye the way as I have already stated Bach has informed me that he detests Mr loussiers fumbling efforts to jazz up his work. But I bet ya his kids love it!
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#1192320 - 05/03/09 04:27 AM
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[Re: keyboardklutz]
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Hehe, I'm not sure about Mocheol's ability to commune directly with the dead, sounds to me like we should be asking his doc to adjust his medication! Loussier can certainly play and it's probably worth bearing in mind that his choice to play this way may not be so much the product of his indecision regarding whether to be a classical or a jazz performer but rather the honest fact that there was clearly a hungry market for this 'stylising' of classics and he made a mint out of producing such cover versions... Personally I think it's fine to tip a hat one way or another - not a lot different in many ways to Bumble Boogie as a take on The Flight of the Bumblebee. As others have stated, music evolves and without evolution where would we all be - still some primeval ooze at the bottom of an ocean someplace, barely contemplating a time when we may swap the oceans for the trees 
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#1192582 - 05/03/09 03:34 PM
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[Re: keyboardklutz]
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Love the jazz takes from Loussier and Jagodzinski.
I'm always intrigued by discussions of what the composers would/wouldn't have liked, and am reminded of the fact that many of the greats were regularly frowned upon by the musical establishment of their day for not following the proscribed rules.
I'm also reminded (sorry, can't help it) of a scene from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, in which Beethoven has a field day surrounded by banks of synthesizers. For whatever reason, that makes sense to me.
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#1192591 - 05/03/09 03:51 PM
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[Re: J.W.]
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Love the jazz takes from Loussier and Jagodzinski.
I'm always intrigued by discussions of what the composers would/wouldn't have liked, and am reminded of the fact that many of the greats were regularly frowned upon by the musical establishment of their day for not following the proscribed rules.
I'm also reminded (sorry, can't help it) of a scene from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, in which Beethoven has a field day surrounded by banks of synthesizers. For whatever reason, that makes sense to me. Of course it makes sense. Composers are only limited by the technical means of sound production available. The choices of sounds and styles were far more limiting 200 years ago than they are today.
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#1192611 - 05/03/09 04:24 PM
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I'm also reminded (sorry, can't help it) of a scene from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, in which Beethoven has a field day surrounded by banks of synthesizers. For whatever reason, that makes sense to me. The funniest thing about that scene was that the cops arrested Beethoven also, although he wasn't doing anything except playing synthesizers, unlike the other historical figures who were causing trouble.
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#1192618 - 05/03/09 04:29 PM
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[Re: BJones]
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I thought the title love and hate was going to be about the vast differences between the loving non-classical section and the hatefully intolerant classical section. lol!
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