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#1195907 - 05/08/09 10:40 PM Vladimir's spastic intervals
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I already asked the surlym intolerant denizens of the classical section:

http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1195865/so%20what's%20with%20Vlad's%20strange..html#Post1195865

but predictably, nobody responded. Can anyone here venture a guess as to why Horowitz took the "Joe Cocker" spastic hands approach to play thumb/pinky intervals?





Edited by BJones (05/08/09 10:41 PM)
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#1195929 - 05/08/09 11:23 PM Re: Vladimir's spastic intervals [Re: BJones]
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Originally Posted By: BJones
I already asked the surly intolerant denizens of the classical section ...but predictably, nobody responded

Well for a start you could stop the "them and us" stuff. More chance of a response, I would think, if you weren't so abrasive. Or maybe it's a joke. If so, I think it's wearing a bit thin.
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#1195971 - 05/09/09 01:20 AM Re: Vladimir's spastic intervals [Re: currawong]
BJones Offline
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Originally Posted By: currawong
Originally Posted By: BJones
I already asked the surly intolerant denizens of the classical section ...but predictably, nobody responded

Well for a start you could stop the "them and us" stuff. More chance of a response, I would think, if you weren't so abrasive. Or maybe it's a joke. If so, I think it's wearing a bit thin.


I'm one of the surly, intolerant denizens of the clasical section myself! No shame in that at all. smile

Descended from a very war-like people tiki, I'm right at home over there! heart


Edited by BJones (05/09/09 01:20 AM)
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#1196983 - 05/10/09 10:41 PM Re: Vladimir's spastic intervals [Re: BJones]
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Originally Posted By: BJones
Can anyone here venture a guess as to why Horowitz took the "Joe Cocker" spastic hands approach to play thumb/pinky intervals?

The real question, I think, is why he isn't playing those intervals with his nose.
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#1196984 - 05/10/09 10:44 PM Re: Vladimir's spastic intervals [Re: jazzyprof]
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Horowitz might have been having a bad acid trip. That would explain the Cocker hands.
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#1197000 - 05/10/09 11:03 PM Re: Vladimir's spastic intervals [Re: jazzyprof]
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Originally Posted By: jazzyprof
Originally Posted By: BJones
Can anyone here venture a guess as to why Horowitz took the "Joe Cocker" spastic hands approach to play thumb/pinky intervals?

The real question, I think, is why he isn't playing those intervals with his nose.

My point here is that the focus on mechanique is misguided. I am reminded of the story of a lady who approached Hofmann and Godowsky at a party and expressed amazement that they could play so well with such small hands. Godowsky responded: "Lady, where in the world did you get the idea that we play piano with our hands."
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#1197036 - 05/11/09 12:13 AM Re: Vladimir's spastic intervals [Re: jazzyprof]
BJones Offline
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Loc: Queens, NY
Originally Posted By: jazzyprof
Originally Posted By: jazzyprof
Originally Posted By: BJones
Can anyone here venture a guess as to why Horowitz took the "Joe Cocker" spastic hands approach to play thumb/pinky intervals?

The real question, I think, is why he isn't playing those intervals with his nose.

My point here is that the focus on mechanique is misguided. I am reminded of the story of a lady who approached Hofmann and Godowsky at a party and expressed amazement that they could play so well with such small hands. Godowsky responded: "Lady, where in the world did you get the idea that we play piano with our hands."


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http://www.box.net/shared/bjv6yc34oo

http://www.box.net/shared/8lmc3hzikl


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#1197205 - 05/11/09 09:49 AM Re: Vladimir's spastic intervals [Re: BJones]
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I don't know but when watching him play he manages to make that technique looked relaxed....?

rada

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