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#1200792 - 05/17/09 06:06 AM
Yamaha P155 user experiences
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Registered: 05/09/09
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Hi all,
The brand new P155 stagepiano from Yamaha has already been mentioned in quite a few other threads, and some people seem to have already bought. And it´s very likely that many people considering to buy a new stagepiano/digital piano/keyboard/acoustic substitute (like me) will have this one in their shortlist.
So I was hoping that some of these proud (?) new owners or anyone who already had the chance to play the P155 could tell how he/she likes it. Preferrably with a comment on why you bought this instrument (e.g. to take it to stage, for late-night practicing, etc.).
Thanks!
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#1200946 - 05/17/09 02:35 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pieper]
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Registered: 01/24/09
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I bought it yesterday =) Went to GuitarCenter with no intention to buy but just to try it. Well, they just unpacked brand new P155 for display on my eyes, and I was the first one touching its keyboard. Unfortunately they did not have any P140 to compare with, but based on what I remember this piano does not really differ from P140 - at least in terms of touch feelings. I was pretty satisfied by P140 keyboard, and P155 also suits me just right. Sound - well, I can`t comment on a sound difference between P140 and P155 since I tried both pianos in a pretty noizy environment. Good thing - sound of P155 piano is nice. Bad thing - it has only 2 pianos compared to P140 which has 3 (some ppl think that actually piano #3 was the best on P140). Speakers are def. better than those of P140. Plus it has 1/4" Out and USB function to store music.
So I realized in the store that: 1. This piano is decent enough for $1199 2. It is brand new with the color I wanted (Mahogany) 3. It is newer than P140 and at least not worse (I believe it is better =)) 4. From all slab-like pianos this is the best for me in this price range (I didn`t want a console piano to have opportunity to jam outside sometimes) 5. For a dessert GC guy said they can match MusiciansFriends price online and give almost $200 instant discount. So the price was actually that of P140 (approx. $1000+taxes)
So I took it.
And I like it so far. Well, piano sound is not exceptional but decent enough for this price. I think the sound of lower octaves is kinda vague and not saturated, but its maybe personal. Touch is good and comfortable (way better than CP-33 or RD-300GX imho). I think its a pretty good deal for the price.
Now it rests on my table and waits for an LP-140 stand FC-3 pedal and some cables to hook up to a mixer and to a laptop via MIDI-USB. I gonna try it with Pianoteq demo (and other software demos that I will find) on my Rokits RP-5 monitors and post later.
If you have any particular questions - feel free to ask!
Max
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#1201117 - 05/17/09 08:32 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Max Mindfield]
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Mine is in the mail coming to me right now, should be here in a week or so. But I was wondering could it be used like a synth? if i plug it into my computer will it play the sounds from a sound module?
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#1201120 - 05/17/09 08:40 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Rugal]
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Yes it works as a midi-keyboard. You can use it with VST instruments, for example, or with rack synth.
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#1201666 - 05/18/09 06:29 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Max Mindfield]
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Thanks a lot Max. I appreciate the objectivity and thoroughness of your review. I tried the P155 at the local instrument-store but it´s always quite hard to make a proper judgement in the excitement of a single moment (although I did actually go there twice). I agree with most of what you say (I say most because you tell a couple of things that I did not know or try). Anyways, you made me realize that I need to be sure before I discard the alternatives. Thanks again.
Edited by pieper (05/18/09 06:32 PM)
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#1201688 - 05/18/09 07:12 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pieper]
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Registered: 05/17/09
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Very solid dp. I was choosing between this one and an fp-4. I never got to play the fp-4, but I did prefer the touch and piano sound from the p-155 to that of the fp-7, which is about $600 more than the p-155 at full price.
The only thing lacking is a drum machine, but I hardly ever use on my workstation to begin with so I didn't let that factor to heavily in my decision.
The sound is great, imo, but the speakers aren't the best. However you would usually use an amp or PA any time you needed to be really loud on a dp anyway.
Only other complaint is that the metronome is just a steady click, not the *chik* *chik* DING that I'm used too. Though you could get a cheap metronome if you want that.
Overall it is a high quality, low feature dp. If that is what you are looking for I highly recommend the yamaha p-155.
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#1201737 - 05/18/09 08:26 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Kawai James]
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Registered: 05/17/09
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Yes, you are right James. I just read through my manual after reading your post. Thanks for correcting me.
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#1203754 - 05/22/09 12:50 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: leon2245]
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Registered: 01/17/09
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Mine arrived on Tue. Started playing on Wed. It is a great DP. I love it!
Now I have a question about the piano sound. There is a selection to make the sound mellow or bright. I like the mellow effect. Is it just my preference? What sounds more like a grand piano? (I don't have much experience with grands).
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#1203762 - 05/22/09 01:12 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: DaveInMichigan]
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I like mellow or normal-mellow too. It really sounds better.
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#1208764 - 05/30/09 06:02 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: TTigg]
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Thanks a lot for all the replies and suggestions so far guys! I haven´t made up my mind yet. If I decide to go for a piano with a high degree of portability it will definitely be the P155 though. If I eventually buy it I will also put a short review/impression of it here.
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#1208972 - 05/31/09 12:10 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pieper]
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I got mine about a week ago or so, and love it! I thought my dads digital piano had awesome hammer action(some m-audio keyboard) but this p155 blows his out of the water! I also love the sound(s) I play alot of with the strings and the voices that go "aaahhhhhh" they sound so great. I love it love it love it! my only complaint is the grand piano 2 option sounds like crap to me, but maybe thats just because grand piano 1 sounds freaking flawless.
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#1208976 - 05/31/09 12:24 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Rugal]
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Piano 2 is mono. It sounds ok in upper octaves, but lower octaves leave too much to be desired, imo.
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#1226916 - 07/04/09 07:22 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Max Mindfield]
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Hi, I have an additional question about the P155 (still haven´t bought..). I´ve heard that one of the bad things of the p140 was it´s amplifier. It wasn´t clear to me however what was meant with this: were people referring to the integrated speakersystem, or is it actually the output to an external speakersystem that is not too good? And the main question: has this improved on the p155?
Edited by pieper (07/04/09 07:23 AM)
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#1227359 - 07/05/09 02:06 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pieper]
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Actually, P155 speakers are quite good. I used my Rokits RP-5 monitors as external speakers for it but finally decided to go with the onboard speakers. Not sure what is the difference in amp quality between P140 and P155, but speakers on P155 are definitely better.
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#1227489 - 07/05/09 07:17 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Max Mindfield]
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What I actually meant to ask was if the "line-out" of the P140 is different in quality from the P155. But this was very valuable information just as well (both for myself and others, I think). Thanks.
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#1228349 - 07/07/09 10:37 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pieper]
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Registered: 07/04/09
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the improvement of P155 from P140 is actually minor. If you can buy P140 at a reasonably lower price, you don't need to buy P155. Even beacuse of the improvement of sampling, the difference you can hear is really not that prominent, you can try if you have a chance.
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#1228373 - 07/07/09 11:45 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: tomohisa]
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Registered: 04/23/09
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My 2 cents:
The P-155 is a improvement over the P-120: better piano samples and a better keyboard (the keys of the P-120 would sometimes break after several years of use) The P-155 is also a improvement over the P-140 because it has better speakers (more power and better quality: 2x12W vs 2x 6W) and The Grand Piano 1 samples are better (128 polyphony and 4 levels of samples instead of 64 polyphony and 3 levels of samples) and the P-155 has a better connectivity (usb, etc). You can really hear the difference of quality between the speakers of the P-140 and the P-155: it's the day and night. The Keyboard of the P-155 is the same as the P-140.
BUT: The sound of Yamaha GP1 is very brilliant and if you're looking for a more 'europeen' sound, you'll not be completly satisfied because there is not Grand Piano 3 'mellow and warm piano' sound as on the P-140 (also there are only 2 Epiano on the P-155 vs 3 Epiano on the P-140 and the Piano+string has also desappeared) I really miss the GP3 of the P-140, and the sound of the GP1 of the P-155 set to mellow is different from the GP3 of the P-140.
I'm still hesitating, I don't know if I'll buy a P-155 or a P-140. For me, The ultimate machine would be a P-155 with a Grand Piano 3.
Edited by Bidibulle (07/08/09 12:09 AM)
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#1229011 - 07/09/09 04:28 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Bidibulle]
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Thanks Bidibulle, Seems we´re in just the same situation; you´re defining exactly everything that pulls me towards the P155 and that holds me back from actually purchasing it. I guess that if the P140 and the P155 were around for the same price, the P155 would win (mainly due to it´s connectivity and improved speakers). But where I am, the P140 (if you can find it) is just little over 2/3 the price of the P155. In addition, it seems that the P155 is a fair bit more expensive over here than in the US.
Also, I´m still wondering if the P140 and P155 have the same quality in their line-out. That would make it an even closer race to me.
Edited by pieper (07/09/09 04:52 PM)
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#1229248 - 07/10/09 01:17 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pieper]
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Registered: 04/23/09
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Hi, Well, finally I've ordered a P-140
The P-155 is probably better, but the P-140 is cheaper in France (900 euros vs 1350 euros for the P-155), it features more interesting sounds for me (GP1, GP3 and Piano+string. I will never use the string2 or the church organ2 of the P-155 and the other sounds I'll use like Jazz Organ or Epiano are exactly the same), and I don't use midi or usb stuff (I just plug and play). With headphones (senheisser 555), the sound is great on both P-155 and P-140 and I'm not a good enough pianist to tell the difference between 4 layers samples and 3 layers samples.
If the sound of the little integrated speakers of the P-140 is really too cheesy in my room, I will buy monitoring speakers and then the sound will be better than p-140 or P-155 integrated speakers.
The difference of price between the 2 DP was really too great (450 euros, about 600 dollars). You're pretty lucky in the USA to have such low prices on the P-155 (here in France you can't find it under 1350 euros (about 1850 dollars): it's pretty expensive and you have to think twice before signing the check.
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#1229596 - 07/10/09 03:00 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Bidibulle]
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Are the samples the same length in the P-155? I remember playing a P-140 in a store and clearly hearing the loop come in when sustaining notes. The looping was done well--no clicks or sudden changes in volume--but I could hear the sound stop evolving and go dead a little too soon for slow pieces.
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#1231117 - 07/13/09 07:58 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Bidibulle]
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Bidibulle, congrats. I´m in the Netherlands where prices are about the same (a tad higher even, actually). I think for 450 euros price-difference it should possible to find pretty decent external speakers (or almost  . (This kindof makes it sound like if turned into a P155 adversary, but that´s definitely not the case.)
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#1231119 - 07/13/09 07:58 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Jake Jackson]
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Hi Jake. I´m not sure what you mean with the loop thing. Could you explain? It sounds interesting, and I don´t remember having read anything about it before.
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#1231144 - 07/13/09 09:25 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pieper]
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Pieper,
I just meant that the samples in the P-140 seemed fairly brief, looping soon after the attack. I was wondering if the samples in the P155 were longer.
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#1232047 - 07/15/09 03:00 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Jake Jackson]
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I would love to hear more about this as well. I am interested in this piano, but have yet to drive the 45 minutes to go try one.
I play alot of slow music with alot of sustain in them, and when I've tried even higher end models I've heard odd decays. I didn't know enough to understand what was going on, but perhaps it's this loop thing. It loops and loops, and then putzes out.
Maybe even if someone could explain how sustain works on a digital piano would be helpful!
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#1232126 - 07/15/09 05:31 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: toyboy]
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...when I've tried even higher end models I've heard odd decays. I didn't know enough to understand what was going on, but perhaps it's this loop thing. It loops and loops, and then putzes out. Thanks for the post, toyboy (hehe, funny nick). Now that you put it like this, I remember when I played in a band that something similar happened on my old keyboard back then, and it annoyed the hell out of our bass-player. Anyways I´ll put a separate post about this on Pianoworld, but hopefully someone will tell in this thread how the P155 performs in this respect. And maybe also of the P140, to make a comparison. So if you make that 45 min. drive, by all means... cheers.
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#1232326 - 07/16/09 03:39 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pieper]
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I finally got my first go on a P155 the other day and I loved it. The sound is to my liking and the feel was perfect for me.
So I'm off to sort my cash out and will be buying one in the next few weeks.
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#1232363 - 07/16/09 07:53 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Gerry Armstrong]
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Cool, Gerry. Please drop a post if you care after playing it for a while. Would be great.
thx.
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#1232760 - 07/17/09 01:13 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pieper]
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In case anyone is interested I just ordered the P155 today from Musician's Friend at a very good price as they are selling Yamaha products now at 20% off their already discounted price. I felt it was too good to pass up and the price helped me decide to get this keyboard. I would suggest phoning them to place your order.
I've had a P80 for many years (I think about 12) which I used regularly several times a month for gigs and it has been an absolutely reliable workhorse. I bought a Roland RD300GX and was not happy with it so I sold it for about the same price I just paid for the P155. (I did include a soft bag with the RD300GX that cost me $140). I thought I gave the buyer of the Roland a good price as I did loose some money on it and it was in like new, hardly used condition. I would think that some people might prefer the Roland, but I ended up liking my old P80 better, hence my decision to sell the Roland and go for the P155.
I have not tried the P155 as our local dealer does not have it in stock, but I do like the P140 and the cp33 having tested both these models. I had a difficult time deciding between the P155 and the cp33, but it appears that the P155 has made some technological advances in the sound sampling over the cp33 and P140. I always run stereo and so I am not interested in mono samples which apparantly was used on one of the P140 and perhaps cp33 piano sounds that is missing from the P155. There are some things that the cp33 and P140 have that is not on the P155, but I went for the latest sampling technology and the price was good. I'm hoping I will not look back this time as I did on the rd300gx. I guess I'll see!
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#1232836 - 07/17/09 08:38 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pianoken]
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I always run stereo and so I am not interested in mono samples which apparantly was used on one of the P140 and perhaps cp33 piano sounds that is missing from the P155. Piano 1 on the P155 is a stereo grand piano sample, piano 2 seems to be mono (see previous post in this thread by Max Mindfield). But in any case, many people seem to really like the Piano 1 sample, and you can set it to mellow or bright (in several steps), so you´ll have some variation. If you got it at a double discount, you´ll have a great stagepiano for the price. It´s good already without the discount, judging from what other owners think of it. The P80 seems to be almost legendary, but of course technology advanced since then. I´m curious if the P155 will become equally liked (of course its concept is more that of the P120, with the builtin speakers).
Edited by pieper (07/17/09 08:39 AM)
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#1236946 - 07/25/09 02:18 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pieper]
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I just got my P155 and it is great! I thought I was happy with my P80, but now I am totally spoiled. The P155 is very responsive and this is a clear advance over the P80. I couldn't be any happier and I'm ready to take it with me and leave the P80 at home. Now can anyone recommend a gig bag for it? I want something durable with good padding that doesn't add too much weight so I can transport it in my car. It appears that the bag recommended by Yamaha for the P140 will probably be too small. The Yamaha bag I've been using for the P80 is also too small. I would appreciate any suggestions.
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#1240338 - 07/30/09 12:59 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pianoken]
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For those of you who have the P155, how did you record via USB? I'm kind of new at this, but basically there are two ways to connect to your computer, USB and MIDI. I don't have the MIDI cables right now, so I tried to connect my USB flash drive to it. I couldn't figure out how to record a song or transfer a recorded song to the flash drive. I also tried with my external hard-drive, but the only option given to me was to format it, and I don't want to do that.
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#1240392 - 07/30/09 02:16 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: StephenTrinh]
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Well, the P155 user manual gives you a great step-by-step protocol how to record to a USB drive. Basically, its not a .wav file but a midi file that you can even open in Winamp using its standard MIDI sounds (forgot the file extension, sorry). So this file contains only MIDI information of your recording, but not the actual sound.
Alternatively, you can do the same once you buy USB-MIDI and hook it up to a software (line any DAW) and record the MIDI info. If you want to record the sound - the easiest way is to connect your P155 outputs with Line In on your soundcard (for instance, using 2 1/4" M mono - 1/8 M stereo Y cable)and record in any software including standard Windows tools. If you search this forum you can find lots of threads devoted to this question.
Yea, and again - don`t ignore your P155 user manual. Lots of thigs are described nicely there. Good luck!
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#1241517 - 08/01/09 12:44 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Max Mindfield]
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Guys, I thank you all so much for your input and explanations; especially Max, who was extremely helpful and left a lot of useful info, but of course also everyone else. After a lot of comparisons, thinking, rethinking, visiting the local store about four times, and spending several hours there, I finally managed to make up my mind. To me (personally) the P155 would be the best available solution as a portable instrument that simulates the action of an acoustic piano. I was not deeply impressed by the piano samples, although the first one was definitely OK to my taste. I first thought the sample sounded a bit thin, but in the store they were so kind to let me play the P155 over the speakers of the CLP340, and that made a lot of difference (it wasn´t thin at all then). This also allowed me to make a direct comparison between the P155 and the CLP340, and I have to say that I still liked the sample in the 340 a bit better (but that´s personal, of course). I felt that the first sample of the 340 still had a bit more "body". I don´t know how else to put it. ..Maybe a bit mellower..
In the end however, I realised that I don´t really need a portable piano at this moment. All I need is a decent instrument to be able to practice at home, with an acceptable piano sound. Also, in the Netherlands (where I live), the P155 is quite expensive (around 1400 euros). So in the end (this may come as a surprise), I decided for the CLP320, which I could get at a discount (1150 euros). It´s really a basic model, but I liked the heavy keyboard action - surprisingly, even though both the P155 and CLP320 supposedly have the same Graded Hammer action, I felt that the 320 was a bit heavier (which is what I prefer). Also I won´t have to buy a separate stand, or dust-cover. I don´t find the piano sample in the 320 as good as the P155, which of course is no surprise. The speakers in the 320 on the other hand are just a tad heavier.
Anyways, I hope you guys don´t feel offended that I went in another direction after all. I realised after all your reviews and explanations and my own testing that no DP is perfect (not even higher end models like the 340 and 370). I think they´re good for practicing (or even performing), but I´ll play the acoustic whenever I get the chance. The CLP320 will serve my purposes and came at a price that I felt comfortable with to spend at this time.
I still hope that people who playe(d) the P155 will leave their experiences in this thread though for anyone who is interested, although I think that many aspects have been covered already.
Just the same, thanks again!
Edited by pieper (08/01/09 06:23 PM)
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#1242727 - 08/03/09 04:02 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pieper]
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offtopic update. I got second thoughts and the vendor allowed me to change the order from CLP320 to CLP370.
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#1242978 - 08/03/09 11:11 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: AdamBrown]
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pieper, that`s great that you`ve made a decision! CLP370 is a great piano. I just wonder what in particular (besides NW) made your choice of CLP370 and not, say, 340? There`s SUCH a great distance between CLP320 and 370..
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#1243767 - 08/05/09 03:26 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Max Mindfield]
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Good question Max. Some months ago I already tried the CLP340 and really loved it. But just when I returned from holidays last week, my DP dealer had a special offer on the CLP370. It had been sitting in the showroom for a few months, so he knocked off 150 euros - it´s in perfect condition though. So the choice was either the CLP340 for 2080 or the CLP370 for 2200 euros. To be honest, I felt very little difference between the two (Natural Wood on the 370 vs. "regular" GH3 on the 340). Also the first pianosample on both sounded highly similar to me. Considering that the price difference was so small though, and the possibility that I might have overlooked something, made me decide to buy the flagship in this pricerange (the actual flagship, the CLP380 is about 4400 euros here, an insane price difference to my taste). Also, I really liked the feet supporting the front of keyboard, even though that´s just looks (does that make me a snob?  . And just yesterday I read somewhere on this site that the basses of the speakers on the 370 may be a bit fuller/better. The only turnoff on both the 340 and 370 to me was the LAN-connection. I mean what the **. I want to play music and stay off the internet for a change 
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#1243915 - 08/05/09 10:51 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
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I finally got my first go on a P155 the other day and I loved it. The sound is to my liking and the feel was perfect for me.
So I'm off to sort my cash out and will be buying one in the next few weeks. Got my money sorted out today so I'm off on Saturday for a proper go on the P155 with a view to ordering one. Can't wait!! 
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#1245461 - 08/07/09 04:34 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pianoken]
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Fellow P80 user. I read your story of the Roland digital piano and the P80 and your new buy – the P155. I am almost exactly the same. I’ve been a bit unsure about what to buy between the P155 and CP33. I also had the P80 – for 9 years and absolutely loved the sound and feel of this piano. Due to age, I had to replace it and made the mistake of buying a Roland RD700GX – which was completely wrong for me. I found the main piano sounds very disappointing plus it was far too heavy! I’ve now sold it and would love to know a bit more about your opinion of the P155 and how it's working out for you. How do you find the action and the spread of the main piano sample - bass, middle and treble and what does it all sound like put through an amp. I am really wanting a lightweight DP in which the main piano sounds are as close as possible to the P80. Any advice would be great. Many thanks, Paul.
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#1245690 - 08/08/09 09:34 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Gerry Armstrong]
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I finally got my first go on a P155 the other day and I loved it. The sound is to my liking and the feel was perfect for me.
So I'm off to sort my cash out and will be buying one in the next few weeks. Got my money sorted out today so I'm off on Saturday for a proper go on the P155 with a view to ordering one. Can't wait!! Just back from Edinburgh where I was giving the P155 a workout and decide whether to buy it or not. And due to a few recent posts about the Kawai ES6 I looked up the specs and thought it was well worth trying out also. I gave both of them a good go and decided on the P155 in the end, although I would say to anyone considering the P155 who hasn't yet thought about the Kawai ES6 that it is well worth a try out to see if you prefer it or not. I thought they were both excellent and to be honest the choice between which action and which sound you prefer is really just personal preference. For me it was the Yamaha but the ES6 is also an excellent instrument. See the Prices Paid thread for full details of the deal I got at the Edinburgh Organ Studio if you're interested. I would highly recommend them if you're in the area.
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#1249784 - 08/15/09 12:49 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: paul1]
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Paul1, I'm sorry it has taken so long for me to reply as I've been away my computer. In response to your questions. (1) I like the action on the P155. I definately prefer it to the Roland RD300GX. I think I prefer it to the P80. (2) I believe I like the Electric Piano sounds better on the P155 than on my P80 and the P155 has a very nice vibe sound. I think I like the Jazz organ sound as well as the P80. (3) I'm not yet sure about the main piano sound as compared to the P80. The bass is better on the P155, but I'm not yet sure about the mid to upper sounds. My initial speaker placement gave some concerns and I have begun to experiment. The built in speakers on the P155 give me more options for experimentation. I have not yet gigged with the P155 as I am waiting on my gig bag. I hope this helps.
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#1258263 - 08/28/09 10:10 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pieper]
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My 2 cents about some of the Digital Stage Pianos around.
First- a shopping tip: Take your IPOD earphones with a 1/4" adapter when you go try these out. This is the only way to really be able to compare the sounds of each. There's just too much other noise in a music store, and the speakers they have hooked up could bias the sound in any number of ways. A direct line connection to your ears will give you the best ability to judge and compare the sounds.
I tried the P85, P155, FP4, FP7, and RD300GX. I could not locate a CP33, but besides a couple snazzy features (like "lock down" button, and Decay adjust) it's probably not as good as the P155 based on the reduction in polyphony and number of samples.
I tried the P85 and FP4 in separate stores and both seemed pretty decent sound and action wise. I especially liked a combo sound on the FP4 with very subtle strings behind the piano. But a week later I was able to directly compare the P155, FP7, and RD300GX at a different store.
The P155 gave a great impression right away- the action was very dynamic and easily playable and I could not detect any immediate problem with the piano sound. I especially liked the 4 or 5 dedicated buttons to change the sounds- brightness, effects, etc. Also, I really appreciate a front panel plug for Earphones.
Then I tried an RD300GX. I noticed it's piano was not quite as good. But it had maybe a more interesting and unique sound where the Lower Registers seemed to have a lot more complexities/overtones to it, but later I came to feel like it was just out of balance EQ wise, and/or was kind of a muffled sound. I also noticed the long decay which I appreciated. The main advantage I think this rig had is that it looks like it has a lot of dedicated buttons for splits and layers. (The P155 I believe can only do 1 split or 1 layer) Also a couple switches near the pitch bend wheel instantly added Octave doubling either down or up. Nice! Had sliders etc for key ranges and layers. The action was very dynamic and playable but I noticed it was a lot more synth like compared to the P155, not very weighted, but it won't affect your performance very much. This action is still very likeable.
Then I tried the FP7. This one was easily the worst of the 3. The keys were weighted ok, but the sound was just not there. It seemed to be the thinnest/boringest piano sound. I kept feeling like I was banging the keys trying to get a good sound out of it. There was simply no dynamics to it. Maybe there wasn't any other samples the harder you hit the keys. Also, I didn't see any interesting dedicated performance buttons like on the P155 and RD300GX.
Then I went back to the P155 again to make sure I wasn't hearing things, and again I was not disappointed. It was just a pleasure to play. The dynamic range of the sound came out so easily (but not too easily). It must be the best Stage Piano sound in the $1000-$2000 range. The sound together with the cool features/buttons sells me. I didn't try out the speakers that much because I don't plan to use them. The only complaint I have is it might not be able to do more than 1 split or 1 layer. But you would probably need another KB or sound module anyway if you were planning on complex sounds like this so theoretically you could set these layers up on the destination instruments.
I may be doing some Gigs later this year with a vocalist and I am seriously thinking about buying a P155 to replace my out-of-date Ensoniq KT88 which piano was ok in it's time but won't be very convincing these days.
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#1259423 - 08/31/09 03:13 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: blueston]
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I read a lot about the comparison between P120, P140 and CP33. Since I own a CP33 and had a P120 for many years I feel the P155 is only a slight improvement. In my opinion, if you own one of these machines mentioned above, it is not worthwhile to upgrade to a P155. The Piano sound might be a bit better. The quality of other sounds is pretty much the same. The number of sounds have been reduced too. One thing I do not understand at all: The P155 comes with the FC4 pedal not with the FC3. That means you cannot trigger the half damper effect with the included pedal. You need to buy an extra FC3 for another €50.
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#1259442 - 08/31/09 04:30 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: p120player]
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Yes, this typical anti-consumer Yamaha behavior. They keep dumbing down their lines to protect their revenues on their top of line instruments.
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#1259617 - 08/31/09 12:26 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: theJourney]
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$35 US for a Yamaha FC3. If the P155 DP and an additional $35 for the nicer pedal represent anti-consumer behavior by Yamaha, then I'm all for it. I see the P155 as bridging the gap UP to their higher-end Clavinova DPs, not dumbing them down. From where I stand, the P155 represents a superb value.
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#1261108 - 09/02/09 02:17 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: UpNorth]
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Hi all! I would like to thank everyone for their helpful opinions and thoughts on their experiences with their DPs. You really helped me make my choice! I just purchased a P-155 and thought I’d share my thoughts to those who are considering making a similar purchase. My background: Took classical music lessons thru my teenage years and now only play for my enjoyment, mostly classical. My sweet, poor parents bought us kids a new Schafer & Sons console circa 1979 (they gave it to me after they bought a refurbished Schimmel grand). I had the privilege of doing lessons/recitals on a Steinway concert grand, so I really appreciate the sound and touch of a quality piano- it’s been many moons, though! Since my brother will be getting the Schimmel and my console is so sad and I can’t afford a quality acoustic- enter DP w/ headphones, some extra voices, recording, etc.! I have ZERO experience with digitals. Since I already have a heavy piece of furniture piano, a stage/portable type keyboard was very appealing. I initially looked at the DGX635 series and liked the price, but some of its limitations stopped me. I decided to up my price range to the $1200 range and get a good, solid basic piece with not so many bells and whistles. Adding voices via computer is always a future option. Basically, this DP is going to be with me for MANY years so it has to be well made and come from a reputable company. My choices then narrowed to Yamaha P155, CP33 and Roland RD300GX. I went to a Guitar Center to test them out. Unfortunately, the price point of the Roland took it out of the running since I needed to get all the “stuff” plus speakers. In the Yamaha’s, the P155 felt great! I didn’t have headphones, so onboard speakers sounded OK to my ears. Interestingly enough, YDP223 was directly underneath it and it sounded better and very pleasing, especially in the bass section. But, of course, it has bigger speakers facing at you. I tried the CP33 and it was not much different than P155, but overall, I liked the sound of the P155 better than the CP33. I really liked the feel of the action on these pianos. I appreciated the straightforward settings panel and choices of brilliance and touch. Two headphone jacks at the front is ideal also. For fun, I tried the YPG635 and quality of touch and sound was very different! I made up my mind- the P155! I ordered a black unit from Kraft Music with the Key Essentials bundle for a total of $1200. Adam at Kraft was very nice to work with. The OnStage KS8291 stand is very sturdy and easy to use (Tip: Read the directions on how to put it together from the get-go- my hubby likes to try to put things together by himself, but he messes up and ends up having to follow the directions anyway  ). The bench is way too low for me (I’m 5’1”) with it adjusted at the highest point and the keyboard at the lowest. I corrected the height with a pile of old calculus books under the bench. Anyways, something to think about for those with kids. Now, the piano- I am very glad that I waited for the black model- very beautiful. Touch is fabulous. Sound over onboard speakers is fine- over headphones is so much better and lovely. I cannot use the Audio-technica headphones because they are too “ringy” in the treble section, instead I use my Sony mp3 earbuds. I am very pleased with my purchase and I am finding it very hard to get anything done around here since I just want to play my new piano! Hope this is helpful to somebody!
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#1262577 - 09/04/09 07:49 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: EmmaElise]
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Hi Emma, Great to read that it was useful to you. The P155 indeed has excellent sound and listening to it with good headphones really makes a lot of difference. From what I´ve seen, heard, felt and read, it´s a very reliable instrument with a good piano sample, not too many bells and whistles, but with perfect connectivity (just in case you hook it up to something for an external sample, but also for USB storage). Looked up the stand and it should be fine. My dad´s been using a single-X stand for over 20 years for his 45 kilos DP, so you should be safe. Just a little in advance-warning. My CLP370 (also yamaha) needed a little break-in period. That is, you may hear some (subtle) additional mechanical noises from the keyboard, which will wear of in a few weeks or months (depending on how often you play). Hope you enjoy. Great you started playing piano again 
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#1262750 - 09/05/09 01:24 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pieper]
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Thanks for the heads up, Pieper, on the break in period. Has your CLP370 resolved its little noises that you wrote about in another thread? Fortunately, I haven't noticed anything yet on mine. Compared to the very noisy keys and squeaky pedalled acoustic,the P155 has been very quiet- hopefully it will stay that way! It's funny, I never really noticed how noisy and loose the action is on my piano until I got the DP. I'm still keeping the old piano, though  .
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#1262875 - 09/05/09 10:54 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: EmmaElise]
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Hi Emma,
Well, for a moment I thought the noises had almost gone. However, I especially hear it with one piece (which has a lot of repetitive movements just around those noisy keys). I was just playing that piece, and I noticed that it´s still there after all. That´s why I came back to update my last post to you, actually. It may be getting less, but it´s very hard to tell. I have the 370 for about 3 weeks now, so I hope that it will be gone after a few months at most, as was the case with clyde145´s 370. I´ll keep that other thread updated when there are any changes, or in case I´m going to take action. Thanks for your asking, btw. And please don´t start looking for anything that might be wrong with your p155 just because of my complaints with the 370.
Btw good thing you keep your old DP. I still have an old acoustic in my parent´s place. Some people would consider it crap, but I still love it.
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#1266421 - 09/11/09 11:53 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pieper]
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Hey since most of you guys already have p155... I'm just wondering where is it made from??
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#1266594 - 09/11/09 05:37 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: MoonieFF]
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Hey since most of you guys already have p155... I'm just wondering where is it made from?? Bit of a weird question, Moonie, but just the same I never took one apart. On the outside it mainly looks like plastic but I suppose there´s something to reinforce the structure. Maybe some of this flight-case compressed wood-kind-of-stuff. Anyways, no need to worry. The Yamaha DP´s and stagepianos are built to last. As are the Rolands and some other good brands, I suppose. My dad has a 20 year old stagepiano-lookalike from Yamaha. The keys are starting to fail now, but it´s been used a lot, and the casing is still good. Also read the reviews on the P80. These things were built to lug around; as long as you treat them with a bit of care, they will stay good. edit: btw I´m not an owner.
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#1266638 - 09/11/09 07:08 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pieper]
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but he said 'where is it made from' so i took that to mean 'where is it manufactured'
I'm guessing china like everything else. That is it could be japan but i would be surprised if it was.
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#1266718 - 09/11/09 10:16 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: limavady]
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Hand-crafted of course with none of those cheap plastic parts!
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#1266747 - 09/11/09 10:56 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pilgrimjoel]
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Sorry to confuse you guys. Nice description there pieper! What is mean is the manufactured place
just as limavady said
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#1266988 - 09/12/09 10:52 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: MoonieFF]
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OK, I just crawled under my keyboard to check it out, and it is made in Japan.
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#1267149 - 09/12/09 04:43 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: MoonieFF]
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Is it really! I noticed on the casio px330 i just got that it's made in china, also from crawling upside down and looking underneath....also that the casios have 1 year warranties and the yamahas have 3 years parts and labor. --wrong thread for this but makes me want to think twice about not returning my casio just for a couple of minor gripes; now i've got a couple more!
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#1361500 - 01/30/10 09:15 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: pieper]
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Bought the P155 without even listened to it in advance.. big misstake. I have recently sold my P85 to upgrade, and my first tought was the new P155. I was under the influence that it should sound like the P85 but with much better quality, i was completely misstaken  . The sound of the new P155 was not the same as the P85(probably because the new CFIII grand sampling,, doh!). The sound was expressive and detailed, but it just didn't like it  So, what did i disslike about the P155 Playing lower keys i wasn't that much power, it almost felt liked the mid/upper keys was much louder than when playing the lower keys. It were some "ringing" noise after the tone that i didnt liked, nor could find how to get rid off it disabling reverb/keyoff etc. I was using my headset Sennheiser HD-595 both for my P85 and the P155, and the difference in sound was quite stunning. What did i do.. i returned it and told myself to never buy i piano without trying it out before a buy. I'm currently looking for an alternative, and it's seem that i will be heading for the CP33 which i found the sound to my likings/playing style. So, do remeber to always play the piano before buying one!  We all have personal taste when it comes to what sound you like, and not to be forgotten, the type of music you play or want to play. Even thou the P155 was impressive on the paper, i didn't like it. Another thing to mention that the action is quite hard( i liked it) compared to my old P85. So that is just another reason to try one out before buying. Hope you will find a DP that you like! // Philip
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#1418615 - 04/16/10 05:11 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: PhilipK]
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I just received the P155 and want to connect it to my headphone system using the AUX outputs. Is it normal that the AUX output reacts to the volume control? If I turn the internal speakers off, the AUX output is silent too. It does work if I put a 1/4"-1/8" plug into the headphone output but I was hoping there is a more elegant solution.
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#1418619 - 04/16/10 05:26 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
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Philip, standard recommendation in any cases - Try and Bye! (as Plug and Play, Drag and Drop 
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#1419272 - 04/18/10 01:49 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: Yuri Pavlov]
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I have a YPG-635, and kind of wish I'd saved a bit more and gone for the P-155. Don't get me wrong, I like the 635 but I never use any of the other 500 voices, drum beats or effects! On the other hand, I have young kids and they love playing with all the sounds.
One thing I don't get, I purchased the LP-7 pedal set which is only available for the 635. This makes it much easier to pedal as it is secured to the stand and gives you sostenuto, damping and soft, like a real acoustic. Checking the Yamaha website it appears the P-155 has no such accessory. Why would a higher spec DP lack this feature?
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#1422322 - 04/22/10 10:21 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
[Re: 20thCenturyBoy]
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Hey everyone, wow, my first post! I went to the local music store in Vancouver (Long & McQuade) and played on the P155 for a long time and was really impressed with the sound. Especially as I could contrast it with the P85 situated above it. I ran it with and without the headphones. I was wondering if there is any way to increase the volume of the piano with headphones on? I had the volume maxed and it didn't seem like the headphones were as loud as they could be. Any thoughts? Either way, I'm excited to own one of these things as I'm intending to pick up a used mint condition one for a very reasonable price tomorrow! Wish me luck 
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#1423275 - 04/24/10 11:48 AM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
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Volume depends on the headphones used, if it is not loud enough you can add a (headphone) amplifier to the AUX outputs. Then you'll still need to stick a 1/4" plug (1/4"->1/8" adaptor works fine) into the headphone outputs to keep the piano speakers quiet.
I've had mine for a week now and really enjoy it. It plays great and the sound is pretty good too. Really restored my joy in the piano after not owning one for a few years now. A little disappointed with the speakers (maybe it is too close to the wall) but the samples themselves are great on my headphone setup.
Edited by paaj (04/24/10 11:49 AM)
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#1853055 - 02/28/12 10:38 AM
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Mine arrived on Tue. Started playing on Wed. It is a great DP. I love it!
Now I have a question about the piano sound. There is a selection to make the sound mellow or bright. I like the mellow effect. Is it just my preference? What sounds more like a grand piano? (I don't have much experience with grands). What's this? You can choose the sound to be bright or mellow on the p155?
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#1870383 - 03/29/12 01:00 PM
Re: Yamaha P155 user experiences
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^Ignore my previous question, since Ive played around with the p155 at a store. Any more reviews 
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