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#1219977 - 06/20/09 07:51 AM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: LJC]
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#1228932 - 07/09/09 12:43 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: MarianneAlkonost]
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With daughter Tatiana


As a young man
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#1229748 - 07/10/09 08:12 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: MarianneAlkonost]
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Great photos Marianne!

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#1241167 - 07/31/09 06:33 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: LJC]
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Indeed so! Happy to share with you!!!

Funny, but it seems nobody in the archives ever noticed Rachmaninoff on this photo by Alfred Eisenstaedt:



http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/50474020/Time-Life-Pictures

I've searched for Bruno Walter and found out this photo and recognised Rachmaninoff, this photo one can find in more good quality on google.com source:life and there again no mentioning of Rachmaninoff :-)
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#1241176 - 07/31/09 06:57 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: MarianneAlkonost]
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Fascinating stuff! Thanks for sharing. thumb
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#1243850 - 08/05/09 09:31 AM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: Horowitzian]
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Your are welcome!!!

Here is one more, the loveliest!



Isn't it?
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#1243896 - 08/05/09 10:31 AM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: MarianneAlkonost]
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smile That's cute! Is that a daughter or a niece or something?
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#1246932 - 08/10/09 08:00 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: Horowitzian]
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That's his granddaughter - Sophia!



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#1246942 - 08/10/09 08:25 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: MarianneAlkonost]
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Ah, I should have known. Cute! smile
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#1246943 - 08/10/09 08:25 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: MarianneAlkonost]
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his nose is very impressive.. so aristocratic.

I'm glad this got bumped up again. the photos are fantastic.
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#1250762 - 08/17/09 12:01 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: apple*]
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You are welcome!

And I am glad that I've finally come across the photos enlarged that I've been searching for in the start of the topic. Here they are:





The last photo was obviously made in Senar. As long as I've seen on the photos from modern Senar it looks a bit the same way with the same number of photos on the shelve...

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#1250771 - 08/17/09 12:13 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: MarianneAlkonost]
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that's a well used piano seat.
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love and peace, Õun (apple in Estonian)

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#1250932 - 08/17/09 05:37 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: apple*]
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Thanks again for the pics! Interesting that that Hamburg Steinway has a New York lyre.
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#1251051 - 08/17/09 09:41 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: Horowitzian]
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Thank you Marianne for these wonderful old photos - especially SR in his natural habitat - dog, granddaughter, birthday cake - I love it!

It is touching to see this images from a world that has vanished - these people are my heroes even if the rest of the world seems to have moved on to other things -

I have a volume of translations of Akhmatova's poetry filled with wonderful photos of people who seem so interesting I wish I could go into the photos and talk to them - they would have to indulge me and speak english of course - Blok, Mandelstam, Biely - a lost world
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#1251067 - 08/17/09 10:10 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: Schubertian]
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There was a thread devoted to Elgar for those who wanted to know more

Here it is:

http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1213592/1.html
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#1281731 - 10/06/09 11:50 AM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: apple*]
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with Sir Henry Heyman (violinist) in the Bohemian Grove
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#1281885 - 10/06/09 04:35 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: MarianneAlkonost]
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Another fascinating photograph...both enjoying cigars too.

Thanks for sharing. smile


Edited by Horowitzian (10/06/09 04:36 PM)
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#1282059 - 10/06/09 10:48 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: Horowitzian]
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Interesting that that Hamburg Steinway has a New York lyre.

Wow, Good one H.

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#1282340 - 10/07/09 10:49 AM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: LJC]
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I can't decide between the granddaughter sitting on the piano, or Rach. cutting the birthday cake.

Thanks so much for sharing these photos.
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#1283286 - 10/08/09 08:03 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: Jeff Clef]
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Wow, amazing pics! I love the one with his granddaughter smile

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#1287013 - 10/14/09 05:00 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: whatevsyo]
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Two more


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#1287243 - 10/14/09 11:48 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: LJC]
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Interesting that that Hamburg Steinway has a New York lyre.

Wow, Good one H.


Thanks, I sort of just "saw" that all of a sudden. Does catch the eye! smile
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#1404765 - 03/27/10 06:28 AM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: Horowitzian]
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A very rare audio of Rachmaninoff's cousin, teacher and main producer - Alexander Ziloti:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRScpZgQkIo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usHzl5_afb4

Plus rare photos!


Rachmaninoff and Russian writer Ivan Bunin


Lifar, Aleksinskaya, Rachmaninoff, Paris 1939


Rachmaninoff and Medtner, Florence, 1924


Rachmaninoff and his daughter Tatyana

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#1404927 - 03/27/10 01:01 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: argerichfan]
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Not wanting to tinkle in anybody's cereal -Rachmaninov knew what he was best at- but the emotional range of his music is extremely limited and quite repetitive. (The 3rd concerto is basically a repeat of the 2nd, the 2nd symphony makes good what he didn't in the 1st.)


shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked !!!!!! NO!!!!! The emotional range is amazing in his music.. I mean I get emotionally completely drained every time I play the 2nd sonata!! And the 2nd concerto! Rach 2 and 3 are extremely different.. structure-wise and harmonically and mood-wise.. How can those harmonies in the Intermezzo of Rach 3 not melt you.. or in the cadenza.. or the second symphony - especially in the development of the slow movement! Rach is the one composer I feel the closest to
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#1404969 - 03/27/10 01:55 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: Pogorelich.]
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Originally Posted By: argerichfan


Not wanting to tinkle in anybody's cereal -Rachmaninov knew what he was best at- but the emotional range of his music is extremely limited and quite repetitive. (The 3rd concerto is basically a repeat of the 2nd, the 2nd symphony makes good what he didn't in the 1st.)


shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked !!!!!! NO!!!!! The emotional range is amazing in his music.. I mean I get emotionally completely drained every time I play the 2nd sonata!! And the 2nd concerto! Rach 2 and 3 are extremely different.. structure-wise and harmonically and mood-wise.. How can those harmonies in the Intermezzo of Rach 3 not melt you.. or in the cadenza.. or the second symphony - especially in the development of the slow movement! Rach is the one composer I feel the closest to


I really have to agree with Angelina, here. I think you're out of your mind, if you think Rach's emotional level is extremely limited, and/or repetitive. He propels me out of my seat every time I hear the 3rd concerto, which has nothing to do with the 2nd...I'm sorry, but the notion, that the former is nothing more than a repeat of the latter, is nonsense. Strauss, Sibelius, Nielsen, and Elgar are superior composers (yes, I realize I left out Mahler)? I can't even take that seriously. Opinion, is what it is, I suppose.
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#1404970 - 03/27/10 01:57 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: stores]
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Hey! Mahler is great!!!!
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#1404972 - 03/27/10 02:00 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: Pogorelich.]
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Btw I must say I am loving the pictures!!!
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#1404985 - 03/27/10 02:21 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: Pogorelich.]
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Hey! Mahler is great!!!!


Tis the reason I left him out of the list of "superior" composers.
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#1405059 - 03/27/10 05:35 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: whatevsyo]
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Marianne,
I have enjoyed the pictures of Siloti with Liszt and with Tchaikovsky on your website (along with the dedications). Very interesting. Are these photos in private hands?

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#1532331 - 10/10/10 01:04 PM Re: Rachmaninoff rare pictures 2 [Re: MarianneAlkonost]
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These photos were published on the postcards, so I guess they are not in the private collection but rather in public sharing!

One more rare photo of Rachmaninoff

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