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#1204494 - 05/23/09 07:43 AM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
[Re: pianovirus]
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Registered: 07/08/08
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But the Carl Vine 1st sonata showed an entirely different side of this pianist. What a great piece...I'll have to listen to this again, for sure. He has a performance available on YouTube, and the same performance is available on his website. I think his performance of the piece last night was definitely more exciting. Joyce Yang's performance of the piece from 2005 is also available on YouTube. Interesting for comparison. I only heard the first 5 pianists from yesterday, but they were all so wonderful. In the end, I wonder if I'll care who the winner is... Maybe once it narrows down, it'll be easier to pick a personal favorite. Daniel
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#1204562 - 05/23/09 11:39 AM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
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I was sort of iffy about Tierra at first but his Ginastera was fantastic! Myer was excellent, very solid performance of the Vine.
Edited by bplary1300 (05/23/09 11:39 AM)
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#1204737 - 05/23/09 04:50 PM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
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Registered: 09/18/08
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On another "note", has anyone made use of the "Email to a Performer" feature?
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#1204738 - 05/23/09 04:50 PM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
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Di Wu plays well. She also seemed to have the right kind of personal touch. A competition looks for people who can go out and represent them well. She is looking for her big break.
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#1204750 - 05/23/09 05:10 PM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
[Re: newport]
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Registered: 02/06/09
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Loved Di Wu's Haydn, but couldn't figure out what Varvaresos wanted to program the Moonlight Sonata for. Surely it wasn't just to show how fast he could play the last movement?
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#1204789 - 05/23/09 06:54 PM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
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Loved Di Wu's Haydn, but couldn't figure out what Varvaresos wanted to program the Moonlight Sonata for. Surely it wasn't just to show how fast he could play the last movement? I thought it was a smart decision. Sure, it is a very familiar piece (the first movement in particular), but he pulled it off very well. I loved the way he began quietly (with "Moonlight" 1st Movt.) and ended quietly (with the end of the Liszt Bm).
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#1204792 - 05/23/09 07:00 PM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
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Registered: 02/06/09
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I guess what I meant by my (somewhat snarky) comment is the main thing I took away from the Moonlight Sonata was how fast he tried to take the last movement, and how muddy parts of it became because of that. I found very little memorable in the rest of the sonata.
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#1204795 - 05/23/09 07:04 PM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
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Well, I will admit that he did not surpass Kempff (who, IMHO, has the definitive performance, which available on YT) in that particular sonata. 
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#1204835 - 05/23/09 08:43 PM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
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Registered: 02/06/09
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Di Wu plays well. She also seemed to have the right kind of personal touch. A competition looks for people who can go out and represent them well. She is looking for her big break. ---------------agree!!
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#1204933 - 05/24/09 03:07 AM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
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From a thread-starting post elsewhere that really belongs here - I'm astounded at the bad taste surrounding the competition.
The microphone hanging over the piano? Is this a video production stage, or a piano competition?
The ridiculous performer portraits videos.
The foolish twit waiting off stage to interview the players.
Worst of all why are the musicians smiling and talking to him at all?
Are they going to dress them all up as Texas cowboys and have an end of competition show ?
Why shouldn't it be both a video production and a piano competition? Because, in fact, it is both. Hiding equipment to pretend a recording is not being made would be silly. The piece of equipment that does seem a little unnecessarily intrusive from the performers' point of view is that video camera right to the left of the keyboard - surely they could have positioned it a little further away and simply zoomed in a bit. I'm not sure what is "ridiculous" about the performer portrait videos. Care to explain why they are? Oh, wait, I think I get it - we shouldn't care about the actual person, just about the music, right? If that's what you mean, it is a valid point of view, I think, but not one that pleases the PR-besotted Cliburn competition. The "foolish twit" is the guy who has been the announcer/MC for the Cliburn for eons. I dare say that almost anyone put in that position of talking to the performer immediately after the performance would probably come off as a foolish twit. It's a horrible idea, probably borrowed from sportscasting, and we should all let the Cliburn people know we think it stinks. Performers are usually in no condition to be making inane small talk mere seconds after such an intense experience, and asking them to do so demeans their performance and the music. And yeah, I was wondering what would happen if a performer simply refused to play along. Of course, this is in Texas, where being aggressively provincial while wielding enough money to get world-class attention is an art. I'm waiting for the movie - "Borat Does the Cliburn". That could be fun.
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#1204968 - 05/24/09 06:21 AM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
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Registered: 02/15/08
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Nice. I'm checking some performances out of interest and maybe to get to know some new music... so now I also know what Boulez sounds like.  I'm getting a lot of distortion, like it's recorded/amplified too loud. Aaarg this is really, really annoying. Everytime it gets louder I get big distortion.
Edited by babama (05/24/09 06:41 AM)
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#1204975 - 05/24/09 07:05 AM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
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Registered: 08/29/08
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Has anyone listened to Noboyoku Tsujii, particularly the Debussy? He had quite a program; All 12 of Chopin' etudes Op.10, which I did not catch entirely, debussy's Images Book I which was wonderful and a very good La Campanella. i was particularly impressed with his Debussy. I happened to have hooked up my computer too a good sound system, and the effect was wonderful. Lots of color, beauty, and sensitivity.. AS you may know, this performer is blind since birth, but he is a true master.
Regarding the Cliburn TV "coverage, well it is reminiscent of the NBC coverage of the Olympics but it makes up in interest what it lacks in elegance and style. It humanizes these prodigiously talented contestants and reduces the "untouchable" image they might project had the been kept in isolation from the public. It also may serve to generate interest in piano competitions and classical music, which is not a bad thing. I think I would be a bit permissive here..
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#1205002 - 05/24/09 08:48 AM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
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Registered: 08/13/07
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I was also getting distortion in the left ear of my earbuds. I thought for sure that my headphones were going out until I tried them on some other music. Maybe it's the video player?
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#1205008 - 05/24/09 09:00 AM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
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I was also getting distortion in the left ear of my earbuds. I thought for sure that my headphones were going out until I tried them on some other music. Maybe it's the video player? Yes I think it's the video--I got it too.
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#1205009 - 05/24/09 09:02 AM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
[Re: pianoloverus]
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Registered: 08/13/07
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Assuming you're watching this on www.cliburn.tv through the Silverlight player... If you watch one of the archived performances and click somewhere on the timeline, the rectangle marking the position will go to that point. However, I get one shot at it. If I'm not where I want to be and then try to move again, the video freezes and I have to reload it. Not a great player, but hey, it's Microsoft.  And I'm getting static in the louder passages from the left speaker only, whether on my built-in laptop speakers or on my headphones. I didn't notice this on day 1 of the competition, but did notice it last night. I just checked a few videos and I only get the static/distortion in loud passages from the May 23 (day 2) videos, not from the May 22 (day 1) videos.
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#1205010 - 05/24/09 09:03 AM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
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Registered: 03/10/09
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Is there any way to fast forward the video from the recitals of the contestants who have already performed? I don't see the usual ways of doing this on youtube.
If you're using the Silverlight program, it should work as it does on youtube. The time meter comes up when you scroll your mouse over the video. After trying to forward it, it sometimes glitches by stopping the video completely, in which case, I reclick the performer on the bottom of the window and skip to whatever time I want to forward to. And... if it glitches again, well I try again!  Hope this helps
Edited by eggsdeee (05/24/09 09:04 AM)
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#1205017 - 05/24/09 09:15 AM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
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I just reported both the search/fast-forward issue and the left side distortion for day 2 videos to the website. They were quick with support issues on day one for the slow stream issues they were having (if you tried, it was awful...you'd get a few seconds of video, then pixelation and freeze, then maybe 15 seconds later you'd get another couple of seconds and it would start all over again.). They seemed to have fixed that problem entirely.
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#1205040 - 05/24/09 10:32 AM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
[Re: Andromaque]
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Registered: 03/13/06
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Has anyone listened to Noboyoku Tsujii, particularly the Debussy? He had quite a program; All 12 of Chopin' etudes Op.10, which I did not catch entirely, debussy's Images Book I which was wonderful and a very good La Campanella. i was particularly impressed with his Debussy. I happened to have hooked up my computer too a good sound system, and the effect was wonderful. Lots of color, beauty, and sensitivity.. AS you may know, this performer is blind since birth, but he is a true master.
Regarding the Cliburn TV "coverage, well it is reminiscent of the NBC coverage of the Olympics but it makes up in interest what it lacks in elegance and style. It humanizes these prodigiously talented contestants and reduces the "untouchable" image they might project had the been kept in isolation from the public. It also may serve to generate interest in piano competitions and classical music, which is not a bad thing. I think I would be a bit permissive here.. I thought that his playing had alot of clarity. Really nice touch. Gotta watch this Player Profile. Matt
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#1205053 - 05/24/09 10:57 AM
Re: 2009 Van Cliburn Competition Megathread
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Registered: 05/29/01
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Regarding the Cliburn TV "coverage, well it is reminiscent of the NBC coverage of the Olympics but it makes up in interest what it lacks in elegance and style. It humanizes these prodigiously talented contestants and reduces the "untouchable" image they might project had the been kept in isolation from the public. It also may serve to generate interest in piano competitions and classical music, which is not a bad thing. I think I would be a bit permissive here.. Agree 100% (except that I don't think the performer vidoes/stories before their performances decrease the elegance).
Edited by pianoloverus (05/24/09 11:00 AM)
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