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#1200784 - 05/17/09 04:55 AM Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic?
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From Wiki:

The much-played piano piece is a transcription for left hand by Warner Bros. pianist Victor Aller of the chaconne from Johann Sebastian Bach's Violin Partita in D minor.

If you like classic horror and classical piano, this is the movie to see.
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#1200796 - 05/17/09 06:26 AM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: BJones]
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Oh yes! Love it.

Another piano horror classic is The Mephisto Waltz (Alan Alda). In that one it's not a posessed hand, it's a whole pianist.
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#1200799 - 05/17/09 06:44 AM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: -Frycek]
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Originally Posted By: -Frycek
In that one it's not a posessed hand, it's a whole pianist.


I can relate to that! grin
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#1200800 - 05/17/09 06:48 AM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: -Frycek]
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Originally Posted By: -Frycek
Oh yes! Love it.

Another piano horror classic is The Mephisto Waltz (Alan Alda). In that one it's not a posessed hand, it's a whole pianist.


Another good one was the original 1962 "Carnival of Souls" (the remake was terrible), about a church organist repeatedly drawn to a long closed "the Shining"-like beach pavillion. IMO, Carnival of Souls was inspired by the 1890s novel, later made into a Twilight Zone episode, "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge", and later inspiring "Jacob's Ladder" with Tim Robbins.



from Wiki:

"Set to an organ score by Gene Moore, Carnival of Souls relies more on atmosphere than on special effects to create its mood of horror. The film has a large cult following and occasionally has screenings at local film and Halloween festivals."


Edited by BJones (05/17/09 06:57 AM)
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#1200827 - 05/17/09 08:39 AM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: -Frycek]
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Originally Posted By: -Frycek

Another piano horror classic is The Mephisto Waltz (Alan Alda).


I love that movie! Jakob Gimpel, rip, playing the most difficult piano work ever. (according to the pianist in the movie)
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#1200828 - 05/17/09 08:40 AM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: BJones]
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Despite having a title better suited to the B-movie horror/sci-fi genre of the following decade, The Beast with Five Fingers (from 1946) is a good film!

I love Carnival of Souls, and think Candace Hilligoss was striking and memorable in the lead role of Mary, the ill-fated organist.

I was never able to warm to The Mephisto Waltz, though it's fun to see both Robert and Alan Alda mentioned in the same piano thread. smile

Steven
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#1200876 - 05/17/09 11:27 AM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: sotto voce]
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Just give me something corny instead of all this angst filled horror:

http://www.clown-ministry.com/index_1.ph...ing_don_knotts/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufUgq1WQilQ&feature=related

You'll be scared of the ghostly organist!

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#1200888 - 05/17/09 11:53 AM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: theJourney]
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Don Knotts! I loved The Ghost and Mr. Chicken (and his other classic, The Incredible Mr. Limpet, too).

But if we're mentioning Mr. Chicken, we've got to give props to Dr. Phibes as well:

Abominable Performance of "War March of the Priests" from Mendelssohn's Athalia

Steven
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Chopin: Allegro de Concert Op. 46
Schumann: Toccata Op. 7
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#1200921 - 05/17/09 01:28 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: BJones]
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posted by BJones:
Another good one was the original 1962 "Carnival of Souls" (the remake was terrible), about a church organist repeatedly drawn to a long closed "the Shining"-like beach pavillion. IMO, Carnival of Souls was inspired by the 1890s novel, later made into a Twilight Zone episode, "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge", and later inspiring "Jacob's Ladder" with Tim Robbins.

An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge is a story by Ambrose Bierce, about a man being hanged in a military execution during the Civil War. It has nothing to do with music as far as I can recall. Did Twilight Zone use the title for a different story?

Has anyone seen The Hands of Orlac?



Edited by Ferdinand (05/17/09 01:30 PM)

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#1200992 - 05/17/09 04:17 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: Ferdinand]
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Originally Posted By: Ferdinand

An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge is a story by Ambrose Bierce, about a man being hanged in a military execution during the Civil War. It has nothing to do with music as far as I can recall. Did Twilight Zone use the title for a different story?



I didn't read the book, but I've seen the Twilight Zone version. It's the same idea as Carnival of Souls, and Jacob's Ladder..

Warning: Spoiler.. don't read on if you plan to see these..


Somone who's dead and doesn't know it.

The Confederate war criminal in Occurrence died the exact same way. Drowned. He's hung off of a bridge in the beginning, but the rope snaps, he hits the water alive, and manages to untie his bonds and avoid being shot while swimming away. Throughout the episode, he's trying to get home, being chased as a fugitive and when he finally sees his woman they run towards each other and just before they touch, everything slows down and he's pulled back to the point where he's standing on the rail of the bridge about to be hanged. he's hanged and this time the rope doesn't break.

In Carnival, it starts with her driving her car into the water near that eerie, closed pavillion (in the background). She walks out of the water and experiences the same kind of things that Tim Robbins did in "Jacob's Ladder", demons after her.
When she finally gives in and dances with the demons in the pavillion at the end of the movie, the scene shifts to the police pulling her car out of the water and she's in it (dead). She never walked out of the water, justlike the Confederate never swam away in the water, and just like Tim Robbins never walked off that helicopter that he was being medivaced on.
Very similar ideas.
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#1200993 - 05/17/09 04:23 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: Ferdinand]
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Originally Posted By: Ferdinand
Has anyone seen The Hands of Orlac?



Conrad Veidt. Great pre-1930 movie. Great actor!

Conrad, in "the Man Who Laughs", was definitely Bob Kane's inspiration for creating "the Joker"





Edited by BJones (05/17/09 04:24 PM)
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#1201039 - 05/17/09 06:00 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: BJones]
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Conrad Veidt is one of my pet unappreciated actors. He was the main Nazi in Casablanca. He also played Chopin in a lost silent, probably looking much like this:
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#1201066 - 05/17/09 06:53 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: -Frycek]
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Originally Posted By: -Frycek
Conrad Veidt is one of my pet unappreciated actors. He was the main Nazi in Casablanca. He also played Chopin in a lost silent, probably looking much like this:


The film with images was lost, but I happen to have a copy of the soundtrack. wink
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#1201082 - 05/17/09 07:11 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: Palindrome]
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Originally Posted By: Palindrome
Originally Posted By: -Frycek
Conrad Veidt is one of my pet unappreciated actors. He was the main Nazi in Casablanca. He also played Chopin in a lost silent, probably looking much like this:


The film with images was lost, but I happen to have a copy of the soundtrack. wink


Veidt was very appreciated in his day, he was in many many flics, most of which have been remade and respun into new flics, some given rise to new ideas.
He's underappreciated today because of he advent of special effects, today's actors not having to "create" all the effects that actors of years ago had to create themselves, and becaue most film buffs scope of knowledge is of films starting from 1930 (talkies).

I agree. Veidt is one of my favorite actors of all time. He blew away the next wave of actors who followed in his footsteps, Chaney Jr., Lugosi, Karloff.
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#1201127 - 05/17/09 08:55 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: BJones]
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Supposedly Johnny Depp's makeup in Edward Scissorhands was based on Veidt's makeup as Cesare in The Cabinet of Dr Caligari.
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#1201138 - 05/17/09 09:06 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: BJones]
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Originally Posted By: BJones
Veidt was very appreciated in his day, he was in many many flics, most of which have been remade and respun into new flics, some given rise to new ideas.
He's underappreciated today because of he advent of special effects, today's actors not having to "create" all the effects that actors of years ago had to create themselves, and becaue most film buffs scope of knowledge is of films starting from 1930 (talkies).

And yet one of Veidt's last roles was in a film that won an Oscar for special effects, The Thief of Bagdad. Of course, special effects were different back in 1940. smile Because he played bad guys so well in that film and subsequently in Casablanca, it's hard for me to imagine him as Chopin.

Steven
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Chopin: Allegro de Concert Op. 46
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#1201165 - 05/17/09 09:59 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: -Frycek]
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Originally Posted By: -Frycek
Supposedly Johnny Depp's makeup in Edward Scissorhands was based on Veidt's makeup as Cesare in The Cabinet of Dr Caligari.


Definitely!
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#1201170 - 05/17/09 10:05 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: sotto voce]
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Originally Posted By: sotto voce
it's hard for me to imagine him as Chopin.

Steven


Me too. I could see him as being perfect to portray me, but Chopin? That's a different story. grin
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#1201178 - 05/17/09 10:15 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: BJones]
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Well, he definitely had The Nose for it.
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#1201195 - 05/17/09 10:47 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: -Frycek]
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Noseferatu? smile

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#1201236 - 05/18/09 12:19 AM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: Bob Newbie]
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Originally Posted By: Bob Newbie
Noseferatu? smile


Noseferatu and Horrorwitz have the same schnozz:





Edited by BJones (05/18/09 12:19 AM)
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#1204828 - 05/23/09 08:24 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: BJones]
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Do any horror fans remember a movie - or perhaps it was a cartoon - about a poor child who is forced to practice scales for hours and hours and days on a keyboard which is a mile long - I also seem to remember he had to wear a scull cap with a plastic hand - or is all this just fever memories from my piano playing childhood?

And also a bio pic about Chopin where the theme to I'm always chasing rainbows is tapped out by a chorus line on a brobdignagian sized piano - or was this in Mad magazine?
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#1204842 - 05/23/09 09:03 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: Schubertian]
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Originally Posted By: Schubertian
Do any horror fans remember a movie - or perhaps it was a cartoon - about a poor child who is forced to practice scales for hours and hours and days on a keyboard which is a mile long - I also seem to remember he had to wear a scull cap with a plastic hand - or is all this just fever memories from my piano playing childhood?

It was The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T, the only movie written by Dr. Seuss.



Yipes!

Can't help you with that Chopin biopic, though. frown

Steven
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#1204912 - 05/23/09 11:51 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: sotto voce]
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SV - thank you so much - so it's true - I'm really not going insane -
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#1205204 - 05/24/09 06:13 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: Schubertian]
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Originally Posted By: Schubertian

And also a bio pic about Chopin where the theme to I'm always chasing rainbows is tapped out by a chorus line on a brobdignagian sized piano - or was this in Mad magazine?


I can't place it but it rings a bell. I know I haven't seen it but it may have been mentioned at some time around here.
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#1205246 - 05/24/09 08:52 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: -Frycek]
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Probably by me - I want, I SO want it to be true - the camp potential of such a movie is beyond all imagining -

Perhaps I will have to make this movie just to relieve the frustration -
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#1205306 - 05/24/09 11:32 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: Schubertian]
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Originally Posted By: Schubertian
And also a bio pic about Chopin where the theme to I'm always chasing rainbows is tapped out by a chorus line on a brobdignagian sized piano - or was this in Mad magazine?

It almost sounds like it could have been a scene from Ken Russell's Lisztomania (released in 1975), though I've never seen it and never wanted to. I may have felt differently if I thought it might be so bad that it's good, but from all indications it's just infamously bad.

Steven
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Chopin: Allegro de Concert Op. 46
Schumann: Toccata Op. 7
Fauré: Ballade Op. 19

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#1205312 - 05/24/09 11:55 PM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: BJones]
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Just quickly, to get back to the original topic - TBWFF..
This is such a classic horror film. I have seen it at least 15 times. They don't make them like it any more. Peter Lorre was so creepy. "SPOILER" alert....



When he throws the hand in the fire - wow! And then it crawls back out.

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#1205349 - 05/25/09 03:45 AM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: opus119]
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Are these movies reissued? maybe dloadable anywhere?

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#1205389 - 05/25/09 09:18 AM Re: Anyone ever see this piano-horror classic? [Re: sotto voce]
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Originally Posted By: sotto voce
Originally Posted By: Schubertian
And also a bio pic about Chopin where the theme to I'm always chasing rainbows is tapped out by a chorus line on a brobdignagian sized piano - or was this in Mad magazine?

It almost sounds like it could have been a scene from Ken Russell's Lisztomania (released in 1975), though I've never seen it and never wanted to. I may have felt differently if I thought it might be so bad that it's good, but from all indications it's just infamously bad.

Steven


Lisztomania is hilarious - especially if you already know anything about Liszt's life. It's allegorical, over the top raunchy but very affectionate. I thoroughly enjoyed it but I'm just an old hippy, not easily offended. And no, that scene is not from Lisztomania.
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