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#12198 - 03/27/05 08:26 AM Difference between Yamaha T121 and U1?
Koalajohn Offline
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Registered: 03/27/05
Posts: 1
Loc: Arizona
Could you pls tell me the major difference between Yamaha T121 and U1? I looked at their specs on Yamaha site, they're almost the same, but not the same price. It's quite confusing.
I searched on Google and found someone said T121 is using Taiwan made cabinet. What's that? Any quality difference because of this? Is this the reason of the lower price of T121?
Thanks!

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#12199 - 03/27/05 09:11 AM Re: Difference between Yamaha T121 and U1?
G. Murdaugh Offline
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The main difference is The U1 uses better hammers, higher grade sound board material, more prep at the factory, heavier back frame, nicer cabinet.
Is it worth the extra cost? In my view yes.
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#12200 - 03/27/05 12:02 PM Re: Difference between Yamaha T121 and U1?
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My understanding is the T121 is made in Thomaston, Georgia. And Greg is correct they use better materials in the U1. IMHO the U1 has a better sound and is better built. Is it worth the extra cost? Again I agree with Greg. Yes.
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#12201 - 03/28/05 02:31 AM Re: Difference between Yamaha T121 and U1?
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Registered: 05/11/04
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Both pianos are made in the Japan factory. I was told that originally the T121 had a Taiwanese case, but now they're Japanese made. Can't confirm that with my own eyes of course. The frames are the same, keys and actions too. As mentioned the U1 has different hammers, with underfelt, that give a slightly softer sound. The U1 has the prettier case including soft close fall, compared to the boxy case and fast close fall on the T121. The U1 has an extra backpost. There is an extra bolt in the U1 between frame and backpost which I think improves the tuning stability over the T121 a fair bit. The T121 doesn't have it as the back post doesn't line up with the hole in the frame for the bolt.

Personally I think the U1 sounds better than the T121. Do I think it's worth the extra cash? No. With a bit of voicing and a few extra tunings to pick up the tuning stability, a T121 will sound pretty much the same as the U1. And I think the T121 has enough back posts. Haven't heard of one failing in that area yet.

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#12202 - 03/28/05 05:04 AM Re: Difference between Yamaha T121 and U1?
Rich Galassini Offline
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Registered: 05/28/01
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I have played many of both models - the T121 does not compare to the U1 in specs. It is a watered down U1 and I have taken a few on trade because the way the piano aged did not please the players that purchased them.

The 121 is ok for casual play, but if you are serious, I would consider other options.

By the way, there are alot of other choices between the $$ of the 121 and the U1 that are great options as well. You would not be doing yourself a service if you didn't try a few of them.

Good Luck,
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#12203 - 03/28/05 08:58 AM Re: Difference between Yamaha T121 and U1?
marlboro-man Offline
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Registered: 03/16/05
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Originally posted by justme:
My understanding is the T121 is made in Thomaston, Georgia. And Greg is correct they use better materials in the U1. IMHO the U1 has a better sound and is better built. Is it worth the extra cost? Again I agree with Greg. Yes. [/b]
The T116 is made in Ga. Justme. That's the 45" model. The T121 is 48" made "mostly" in Japan
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#12204 - 03/28/05 09:12 AM Re: Difference between Yamaha T121 and U1?
Christopher P. Smith Offline
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Registered: 01/13/05
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Loc: Timonium, MD
The T121 is indeed made in Japan and I would agree with most that has been said so far when comparing the two models.
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#12205 - 03/28/05 09:33 AM Re: Difference between Yamaha T121 and U1?
justme Offline
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Originally posted by marlboro-man:
The T116 is made in Ga. Justme. That's the 45" model. The T121 is 48" made "mostly" in Japan [/b]
Ah! Thanks.
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#12206 - 03/28/05 09:46 AM Re: Difference between Yamaha T121 and U1?
Steve Cohen Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by marlboro-man:
 Quote:
Originally posted by justme:
My understanding is the T121 is made in Thomaston, Georgia. And Greg is correct they use better materials in the U1. IMHO the U1 has a better sound and is better built. Is it worth the extra cost? Again I agree with Greg. Yes. [/b]
The T116 is made in Ga. Justme. That's the 45" model. The T121 is 48" made "mostly" in Japan [/b]
You response sounds like it is from someone who knows.

Are you in the music industry?
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#12207 - 03/28/05 09:46 AM Re: Difference between Yamaha T121 and U1?
Christopher P. Smith Offline
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Registered: 01/13/05
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Loc: Timonium, MD
for the record, I still feel the T121 is a descent piano, but if you have the extra $$ to spend, the U1 would certainly be the better instrument.

Though, as Rich G mentioned, there are many fine pianos on the market in this price range.

Best of luck!
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#12208 - 03/13/06 02:27 AM Re: Difference between Yamaha T121 and U1?
HiLine Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 131
Loc: Hanoi
I bought an ET121 in May, 2004. It still hasn't reached its 'tuning stability' yet. However, the sound has become less bright.
Could anyone tell me what the 'E' in 'ET121' mean?

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#12209 - 03/13/06 03:54 PM Re: Difference between Yamaha T121 and U1?
Norbert Offline
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Registered: 07/03/01
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Loc: Surrey, B.C.
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for the record, I still feel the T121 is a descent piano, but if you have the extra $$ to spend, the U1 would certainly be the better instrument.

Though, as Rich G mentioned, there are many fine pianos on the market in this price range
For example, some level entry grands.......

Norbert \:o
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#12210 - 03/14/06 01:49 AM Re: Difference between Yamaha T121 and U1?
HiLine Offline
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 131
Loc: Hanoi
Are you sure such a cheap grand would sound better than an upright of the same price?

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