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#1220172 - 06/20/09 04:35 PM Roland V piano
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I stumbled upon this..George Duke playing V piano!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8Kl-luQil8&feature=related

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#1222086 - 06/24/09 10:57 AM Re: Roland V piano [Re: Bob Newbie]
ophelia11 Offline
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Wow! Great link, thanks for that Bob. *daydreaming* How I wish I could make my Roland sound that good!!!

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#1222108 - 06/24/09 11:51 AM Re: Roland V piano [Re: ophelia11]
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There will be a lot of discussion and talk, comparing "Pianoteq + Controller" vs "V-Piano". That's with the consideration of V-Piano's US$5995 price tag ... :))

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Edited by nickchip5 (06/24/09 11:53 AM)

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#1222114 - 06/24/09 12:18 PM Re: Roland V piano [Re: nickchip5]
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Registered: 04/08/09
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I had a great opportunity to try V-piano out in store earlier today. It is sounding amazing! And all artificial rather than sampled... and it looks great too. But price wise - here in my local shop it was £4500.. frown You folks are really blessed by prices, range of products and availability smile

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#1222729 - 06/25/09 05:09 PM Re: Roland V piano [Re: Crisu]
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The Roland V at Keyboard Magazine as the Keyboard
folks mess with one out of the box...




And more, showing how you can tweak the sounds via built in, or your laptop...

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#1222739 - 06/25/09 05:34 PM Re: Roland V piano [Re: Piano World]
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Well, put me down for one. Yes .. my birthday is coming up and I deserve it.

Very nice sound comin from that keyboard. Very nice indeed! smile
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#1222743 - 06/25/09 05:41 PM Re: Roland V piano [Re: eweiss]
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I'd like to try one.

Hmmmnn, wonder who has one on the floor, somewhere between Florida
and NH, close to 95 :-)

We're headed up that way (driving) starting next Tuesday.
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#1223725 - 06/27/09 07:40 PM Re: Roland V piano [Re: Bob Newbie]
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Wow. Now we're talking. So this is the digital piano that sounds and behaves the most like a high quality acoustic piano. Very high quality.

We talk about acoustic pianos as if they are all one. But they're not. Just like there's no such illness as cancer. It is dozens and dozens of different diseases. So you can't find a cure for "cancer" nor can you say an "acoustic" is better than a digital.

You can't compare a Steinway grand in perfect condition to a Kimball spinet. Or for that matter a Steinway upright poorly maintained and tuned (as at our college) to a decent digital piano.

The Roland V piano is surely superior to 90% of the pianos out there, with the added advantage that it can be voiced to be appropriate for a composer. We know Chopin didn't compose on a modern piano, certainly not Bach. You can't replicate the true sound of many classical pieces on a modern piano. But I bet you could voice the ROland more appropriately, and not only that, you can voice it for each composer or style.

I personally wouldn't use all of the voicing and tuning aspects (other than the presets) for quite a while, but right now when I hear this piano at about $6,000 versus the Yamaha CVP at $8,000+, well I'd gladly give up all the bells and whistles for that kind of sound and touch response.

Keep in mind that most acoustic pianos are out of tune (other than the concert grands that are tuned right before a performance), since a piano only truly holds its tuning for 1-2 weeks, and is desperately in need of a tuning within a few months...never mind what the tuners tell you.

So right off the bat you're saving somewhere in the neighborhood of $250 to $1,000 (for 2 to 8 tunings a year) annually. Then you're saving moving fees of $250 per move, voicing and regulation every year or two at $600 or more, and whatever else may happen.

I laughed when one of my fellow piano students, after playing his recital piece on our Steinway grand in the classroom, said "it's almost as good as digital..."

If money and space were no object, I'd take a Steinway grand or another good grand over a V piano, but it would be for emotional reasons.


Edited by Nikalette (06/27/09 07:48 PM)

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#1223871 - 06/28/09 06:40 AM Re: Roland V piano [Re: Nikalette]
Geoffk Offline
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I have to admit, I was very impressed. After watching the videos, I actually would rather have one of these than a sample-based piano, even at what is an early stage. Of course, you need to add in the cost of a good amp and speaker system for it, so you could be pushing $8000 or more by the time you really got done. And you'd still need an external module or synth for strings and other sounds. Even so, this really looks awesome.

Kudos to Roland. I can't wait till they work this down to the cheaper models.

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#1224001 - 06/28/09 01:14 PM Re: Roland V piano [Re: Geoffk]
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I would definately get one of these, although the price is too high for me. frown


Edited by GrantM (06/28/09 01:14 PM)

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#1224008 - 06/28/09 01:18 PM Re: Roland V piano [Re: Geoffk]
Nikalette Offline
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Originally Posted By: Geoffk
I have to admit, I was very impressed. After watching the videos, I actually would rather have one of these than a sample-based piano, even at what is an early stage. Of course, you need to add in the cost of a good amp and speaker system for it, so you could be pushing $8000 or more by the time you really got done. And you'd still need an external module or synth for strings and other sounds. Even so, this really looks awesome.

Kudos to Roland. I can't wait till they work this down to the cheaper models.


Yeah, but for the home pianist who wants a really good piano sound and who is playing mainly classical, it's a dream.

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#1224223 - 06/28/09 10:32 PM Re: Roland V piano [Re: Nikalette]
Kawai James Offline
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Geoffk, I was under the impression that the dedicated Roland speaker system was included within the price of the V-Piano.

Certainly, I cannot recall seeing separate price tags on the instrument I played at a music store here recently.

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#1224291 - 06/29/09 02:22 AM Re: Roland V piano [Re: Kawai James]
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Registered: 01/27/07
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Loc: torrance, CA
" I was under the impression that the dedicated Roland speaker system was included within the price of the V-Piano.
"

What!!!

In the US we get the stand and a one-year shop warranty.
In Canada they get hit with a hideous exchange rate and no stand. I've heard the warranty there is one year but haven't documented it. In the UK they get three years on site warranty, but no stand. Hey, they can hold it in one hand and play it with the other! In central Europe they get one year on site, two years in shop, no stand.

In Japan you get dedicated speakers too?

James,

If you don't mind me being nosy, what are the warranty terms in Japan and the street price of the package including speakers?
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#1224309 - 06/29/09 03:59 AM Re: Roland V piano [Re: turandot]
Kawai James Offline
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turnadot, my mistake, I have just had another look at the Japanese brochure and the speaker and stand are indeed separate, after-sale accessories.

The V-Piano has a list price of 600,000 JPY here in Japan, however I'm afraid I do not know the warranty period of this instrument.

Kind regards,
James
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#1224554 - 06/29/09 03:24 PM Re: Roland V piano [Re: Kawai James]
yellowsheep Offline
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Registered: 06/05/09
Posts: 3
Hello everyone, I was writing several considerations on the V-piano here http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthrea...tml#Post1212609
Of course it's just my humble opinion and it's not meant to put down such a grand instrument.

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#1226431 - 07/02/09 11:06 PM Re: Roland V piano [Re: Nikalette]
Nikalette Offline
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Registered: 12/22/08
Posts: 1062
Loc: California
I played it today, you can see my reaction on the Critique of the V Piano discussion.

It's all over now. I have to have it.

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