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#1234059 - 07/20/09 12:26 AM
Re: Do we have any Brahms fans here?
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Rafael Joseffy is my favorite editor for Chopin, specifically on the strength of his fingering suggestions. I never knew until recently that he edited at least some of Brahms's piano music, too. The only source I know is IMSLP, and the selection is limited (so far as I am aware) to the Ballades Op. 10, Rhapsodies Op. 79 and Sonata Op. 5.
Steven Between there and free-scores.com, I found pretty much all in the way of actual material. The editions all have fairly sparse fingering help. That may end up being a good thing after all. I'm usually in the habit of changing fingerings but this Brahms has an awkward feel to it.
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#1234069 - 07/20/09 12:44 AM
Re: Do we have any Brahms fans here?
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The best edition I have seen of Brahms' piano music is Schirmer's Mandyczewski. There are other publishers who have reprinted the original Breitkopf, but Schirmer reengraved the errors out of it. Accuracy is not much of a problem with Brahms, who was very careful with the works he published, so there is no great difference between the text of different editions. The Henle is uncharacteristically poorly engraved, making it hard to read sometimes.
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#1234071 - 07/20/09 12:47 AM
Re: Do we have any Brahms fans here?
[Re: Damon]
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[...] [T]his Brahms has an awkward feel to it. And that, to me, is the rub though those who play Brahms fluently would challenge that assertion. You may be interested in a discussion I initiated last year concerning this subject: "Pianistic" writing: is it all in the hands of the beholder? Steven
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#1234541 - 07/20/09 10:59 PM
Re: Do we have any Brahms fans here?
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The best edition I have seen of Brahms' piano music is Schirmer's Mandyczewski. There are other publishers who have reprinted the original Breitkopf, but Schirmer reengraved the errors out of it. Accuracy is not much of a problem with Brahms, who was very careful with the works he published, so there is no great difference between the text of different editions. The Henle is uncharacteristically poorly engraved, making it hard to read sometimes. I see those editions are available on Amazon. Am I right to assume these are in the larger than 8 1/2 x 11 paper size as are my other Schirmers' editions? I've printed some scores from the web but am tired of squinting at them. (getting old has it's drawbacks  ) A peek inside the editions (a page each of the 3 volumes) show no fingerings at all. Do you know if that is the rule in these? (Not necessarily a deal killer at this point)
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#1234630 - 07/21/09 02:48 AM
Re: Do we have any Brahms fans here?
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It is the Schirmer Library format, the same size as their other publications in that series.
There is a little fingering. I think what there is comes from Brahms. I think you can work out the principles of fingering from the 51 exercises and what Brahms said about his piano music: It is not difficult if you take the time to play it intelligently.
Actually, I keep my Schirmer's for reference, and write in the corrections and my fingerings in my copy of the Dover, which is my copy for messing up. The notes explaining the errata are printed in the Schirmers, which makes it easy to find where to make the corrections for the Dover.
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