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#1234005 - 07/19/09 09:26 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: currawong]
Emanuel Ravelli Offline
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Registered: 10/15/04
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Coffee or the current default work best for me. I'm with Currawong on one point -- the importance of having some visible way of telling whether a thread has been read before. She says that only coffee or koniro provide that now. I haven't played around with these enough yet to tell for sure. But if the current default doesn't mark previously read threads: (i) Why not? Isn't that a pretty basic feature of good forum/bulletin board design, regardless of template colors? (ii) I withdraw my vote for the default and vote only for coffee.

As for Sotto Voce's suggestion that the font is too big, just wait 'til you hit 60, young fella. (I'll bet you like Kalmus editions, too.) I think our font is perfect the way it is, except when I wish it were bigger. Which is at least half the time. help
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#1234073 - 07/20/09 12:56 AM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: Emanuel Ravelli]
Horowitzian Offline
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Originally Posted By: Emanuel Ravelli
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As for Sotto Voce's suggestion that the font is too big, just wait 'til you hit 60, young fella. (I'll bet you like Kalmus editions, too.) I think our font is perfect the way it is, except when I wish it were bigger. Which is at least half the time. help


I have taken the idea away from some of Steven's posts that he is not a young fella. smile
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#1234553 - 07/20/09 11:26 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: Horowitzian]
Emanuel Ravelli Offline
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You're probably right about that. But anyone who isn't complaining about tiny, illegible computer fonts is a young fella in my book. thumb
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#1234597 - 07/21/09 01:07 AM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: 88Key_PianoPlayer]
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Coffee is nice, but I voted for the default look. I think it's slightly easier on the eyes.
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#1234624 - 07/21/09 02:20 AM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: Horowitzian]
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Originally Posted By: Horowitzian
I have taken the idea away from some of Steven's posts that he is not a young fella. smile
Age is relative, Horowitzian. I think it's a pretty sure bet that anyone who thinks the font is too big is younger than me! smile
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#1234902 - 07/21/09 03:59 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: Emanuel Ravelli]
Horowitzian Offline
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Originally Posted By: Emanuel Ravelli
You're probably right about that. But anyone who isn't complaining about tiny, illegible computer fonts is a young fella in my book. thumb

Maybe he has good eyes. smile

I put my vote in the "Too big" camp. grin
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#1235001 - 07/21/09 06:39 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: Horowitzian]
KawaiDon Offline
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Registered: 02/05/02
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The "Coffee" colors are nice, and it's easy to read, but the silly bean icons need to go. They look like, I dunno, something ugly.
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#1235035 - 07/21/09 07:42 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: Piano World]
Nikalette Offline
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Registered: 12/22/08
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Loc: California
Looks like Coffee and Koniro are running neck and neck. I voted for Koniro, I hadn't noticed there were options for the look of the forums.

I think the original default is easiest on the eyes, but the blue is more cheerful and it is nice to have the unread topics bolded.

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#1235782 - 07/23/09 08:40 AM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: 88Key_PianoPlayer]
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Registered: 06/29/09
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Loc: Vermont
Coffee has my vote as well.
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#1236657 - 07/24/09 03:55 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: LVP]
M A R L A Offline
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Registered: 07/09/09
Posts: 7
Loc: New York
I think none of them are particularly elegant as far as design, simplicity or readability goes (but I work for a website full time and am a tough critic!) - however cofee is definitely the easiest on the eyes. Sort of like amber lenses in your prescription shades.

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#1236659 - 07/24/09 03:56 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: KawaiDon]
Horowitzian Offline
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Originally Posted By: KawaiDon
The "Coffee" colors are nice, and it's easy to read, but the silly bean icons need to go. They look like, I dunno, something ugly.


grin grin grin grin
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#1236679 - 07/24/09 04:24 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: Horowitzian]
Horowitzian Offline
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I just switched to koniro to try it out. I'd have a hard time choosing between it and coffee. They are definitely the best of the lot as far as readability and ease on the eyes. I also like that unread topics are in boldface font in both. smile
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#1236682 - 07/24/09 04:26 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: Emanuel Ravelli]
Horowitzian Offline
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Originally Posted By: Emanuel Ravelli
You're probably right about that. But anyone who isn't complaining about tiny, illegible computer fonts is a young fella in my book. thumb


smile Well I got an email from someone recently that was in 6 pt. Now that is just about too small. Although the anti-aliased fonts on Macs definitely improve readability dramatically.
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#1236717 - 07/24/09 04:54 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: Horowitzian]
Rosanna Offline
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Registered: 06/08/07
Posts: 1360
Loc: San Francisco Bay area
I have been using koniro because I find it very important that unread threads are bolded in that style. Also because I like blue, so I didn't use the coffee style. (I won't want to use the other styles because of the lack of the bolded unread thread.)

But am now trying the coffee style because of its popularity. It seems cleaner and easier on the eyes.

I'd be happy with either coffee or konira as the forum default.
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#1236888 - 07/24/09 10:35 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: survivordan]
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Registered: 12/28/08
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Loc: Chicagoland
I prefer Pastels tho I would not be sad to see Default remain.

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#1237117 - 07/25/09 01:38 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: apple*]
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Coffee!!
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#1238328 - 07/27/09 05:14 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: Strings & Wood]
AT83 Offline
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Registered: 06/08/09
Posts: 20
Loc: ORD
I believe the stock default is better. From what I can remember of my web design courses in college, black text on a white background is the most easily read. I would keep it simple for the default, either the current stock or the coffee version is acceptable. For those viewing on mobile devices adding that background pattern and cute bean icons may increase their load time over slow wireless networks. (I have spent considerable time reading the forums from a blackberry.) Most people are here for the information contained in the text, not the pretty colors on the page.
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#1238345 - 07/27/09 05:36 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: AT83]
J_N Offline
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Registered: 05/03/09
Posts: 59
Loc: Newcastle, UK
Is scripting something new very difficult? I like the coffee theme (though it seems a bit dark to me... not really inviting), but I don't really see any connection to music smile would be nice to have a bespoke theme... clefs or notes instead of the beans... and stuff... just my 2p...
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#1238347 - 07/27/09 05:37 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: KawaiDon]
Nikalette Offline
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Registered: 12/22/08
Posts: 1079
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: KawaiDon
The "Coffee" colors are nice, and it's easy to read, but the silly bean icons need to go. They look like, I dunno, something ugly.


Yes, they look like that ugly thing, and also kind of like an aerial view of the human brain.

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#1238548 - 07/27/09 11:07 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: Nikalette]
WalkFar Offline
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Registered: 01/15/09
Posts: 52
Loc: Urbana, Illinois
I use Koniro.

Coffee was my second choice, but those beans did not work.

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#1238913 - 07/28/09 01:46 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: currawong]
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Registered: 05/03/06
Posts: 2623
Loc: western Wisconsin
I use "dark", but Koniro is also nice with Coffee in 3rd place.
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#1249589 - 08/15/09 01:01 AM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: terminaldegree]
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I'd like the visited links to change color from the non-visited ones. Seems like that used to work on Piano World? I've got a few "custom" CSS files that supposedly force this to happen, & work on other forums, but none work here. I am no expert at CSS--hate this type of "tinkering with computers" crap. Any ideas? Mac Tiger; Windows XP. Maybe I'm overlooking some setting somewhere.
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#1255184 - 08/24/09 02:13 PM Re: Help Us Choose the Default Look & Feel [Re: Piano World]
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Registered: 08/14/09
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I would have wanted something lighter and more fun. Although this earthly colors are fine. It is just so safe.
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