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#1301715 - 11/08/09 04:57 PM Re: Roland V-piano - crititques and downside [Re: ChrisA]
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Registered: 09/24/09
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Originally Posted By: ChrisA
What they cannot fix is the ugly design, the terrible button layout, and lame user interface (without the PC plugged in). If they had really wanted to create the 21st-century DP, they could have given this a large, high-resolution, letter-sized screen, and the ability to download sheet music from the equivalent of the iTunes Store.

As for the lack of a large screen and many buttons. I think a designer has to walk a line of balance. It's not just the cost. Many pianists simply do NOT want a large screen and many blinking LEDs. It's distracting. But you can fix all those things. Simply buy a small notebook computer, maybe the black Macbook and leave it on the piano.
Suppose they simply offer an ordinary flat-panel display as an option. They just provide a DSUB or digital video output, and you can plug in any monitor. A 20" job goes for not much over $100.

And these generally have a standard, VESA-compliant mounting plate on the back. Roland need only provide an (optional?) post of some sort, to which you attach any monitor of your choice. (Or, if you don't want that look, omit the monitor.)

You could also do all that with a laptop computer ... but not for $100. I think they should put the necessary computing power inside the piano. Just add monitor.

As for buttons ... If an itty-bitty cell phone can have a full keyboard, surely there's room for a proper set of buttons on the piano?

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#1304720 - 11/13/09 11:37 AM Re: Roland V-piano - crititques and downside [Re: KrAYZEE]
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Registered: 07/23/09
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Originally Posted By: KrAYZEE
I've been a somewhat close follower of the Roland modeling technology since buying a set of V-drums 8 or 9 years ago. If the development cycle is anything similar to the drums, in about two years you can expect some kind of expansion board upgrade for the V-piano along with a newer model with fewer features but some new sounds and editing points at a lower price point. In about 4-5 years your can expect a full redesign with a version 2 model and more leveraging of the technology into lower price point units. The main flagship model will remain somewhat spendy.

Kurt


New versio in about 4-5 years? I really hope we have to wait much less than that.

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#1310983 - 11/23/09 02:26 PM Re: Roland V-piano - crititques and downside [Re: pold]
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Registered: 11/10/09
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I tried the V-piano today.

It seemed to me that there was a change in sound when going from B5 to C5. It almost sounded like the V-piano transformed into a different voice. I think it was one of the Grands.

Has anyone else noticed this?
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#1589134 - 01/02/11 05:20 PM Re: Roland V-piano - crititques and downside [Re: yellowsheep]
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Registered: 11/26/10
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Any news or rumors about a " V-Piano 2 " ?

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#1590181 - 01/04/11 07:38 AM Re: Roland V-piano - crititques and downside [Re: yellowsheep]
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I doubt if a new version of the V-Piano will arrive anytime soon - even after 2 years, noone else has managed to emulate its technology, and it remains unique and (dare I say it) for the cognoscenti only, i.e. those who want a piano substitute pure and simple, with no distractions from the joys of playing like lots of fancy buttons, dials and flashing lights that you get from almost every other DP. Reading through all those posts from 2009, I realize that the V-Piano is really in a niche market because it doesn't give what most people expect from a 'digital piano' (i.e. lots of alternative & weird non-piano sounds, and bells & whistles), yet for me, a first-time buyer wanting a piano that I can use with headphones (and for the reviewers in magazines I've read), it's ideal precisely because it plays like a real piano and distractions are kept to the bare minimum.

The article in the Fall Supplement 2010 to Larry Fine's Piano Buyer gave strong hints that as far as Roland is concerned, they 'filtered' the V-Piano's technology (in the form of 'Supernatural') down to their cheaper, 'normal' (i.e. sample-based) models, which appears to include the RD series, without actually using modelling technology per se on them, which suggests that there are no plans to produce another modelled DP.

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#1591101 - 01/05/11 12:17 PM Re: Roland V-piano - crititques and downside [Re: yellowsheep]
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Registered: 11/26/10
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I am surprised that nobody compared V-Piano to Yamaha Avantgrand N2. The N2 does not cost more that a V-Piano PLUS 4 amplified speakers PLUS the stand ... and it has a real AC Grand piano action keyboard.


And...The new YAmaha Avantgrand N1, to be anounced a NAMM, may give V-Piano some very tough competition. it is supposed to be priced like the V-Piano, but (1) with a real AC action, and (2) with built-in speakers, so in fact way cheaper than a V-Pianio since no need for extra costs on speakers and stand.

What do you think ?

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#1591105 - 01/05/11 12:22 PM Re: Roland V-piano - crititques and downside [Re: B. Michels]
Ovidiu M Offline
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Registered: 10/24/10
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Loc: Romania
Moved the posted to the newer thread opened by B Michaels.


Edited by Ovidiu M (01/05/11 12:27 PM)

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