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#1234029 - 07/19/09 10:39 PM I GOT RHYTHM
Elssa Offline
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Just wondering how to jazz up and improvise with this Gershwin 1-6-2-5 song. I heard someone do it a long time ago, but can't remember much of it now. frown Thanks for any ideas. smile

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#1234046 - 07/19/09 11:41 PM Re: I GOT RHYTHM [Re: Elssa]
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I Bb6/9 G7alt | Cm9 F7b13 |
| Dm9 G7alt | Cm9 F7b13 |
| Fm7/Bb Bb13b9 | Ebmaj9 Ab13#11 |
1 | Dm9 G7alt | Cm9 F7b13 I
2 | Cm9 F7b13 | Bb 6/9 |
| Am7 | D9 | Dm9 | G13 |
| Gm7 | C9 | Cm7 | F7b13 |
I Bb6/9 G7alt | Cm9 F7b13 |
| Dm9 G7alt | Cm9 F7b13 |
| Fm7/Bb Bb13b9 | Ebmaj9 Ab13#11 |
| Cm9 F7b13 | Bb 6/9 |

There's numerous variations of I Got Rhytm changes from the bepop era. Bebop musicians like Bud Powell and Charlie Parker used the form as a vehicle for improvisation usually with a new written melody. A tune like that is called "contrafact"

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#1234147 - 07/20/09 09:37 AM Re: I GOT RHYTHM [Re: KlinkKlonk]
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Elssa,

You might want to take a look at (and listen to) this:

http://people.uncw.edu/russellr/rhythm.html

Ed
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#1234818 - 07/21/09 01:39 PM Re: I GOT RHYTHM [Re: Riddler]
Elssa Offline
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Thanks for the great ideas/site! Very interesting chord changes (G7 instead of Gm7, etc.), and improv. smile

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#1240495 - 07/30/09 06:10 PM Re: I GOT RHYTHM [Re: Elssa]
Elssa Offline
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Hi all,

Just wanted to let you know I bought Bill Susman's "I Got Rhythm" unit (www.playlikeme.com), and it looks like it's going to be very helpful as well. Seems like he gets into the theory of it quite a bit. Does anyone else have this (or any other of his tutorials)? Would love to chat about it. smile

http://www.playlikeme.com/

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#1240581 - 07/30/09 09:01 PM Re: I GOT RHYTHM [Re: KlinkKlonk]
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Originally Posted By: KlinkKlonk
I Bb6/9 G7alt | Cm9 F7b13 |
| Dm9 G7alt | Cm9 F7b13 |
| Fm7/Bb Bb13b9 | Ebmaj9 Ab13#11 |
1 | Dm9 G7alt | Cm9 F7b13 I
2 | Cm9 F7b13 | Bb 6/9 |
| Am7 | D9 | Dm9 | G13 |
| Gm7 | C9 | Cm7 | F7b13 |
I Bb6/9 G7alt | Cm9 F7b13 |
| Dm9 G7alt | Cm9 F7b13 |
| Fm7/Bb Bb13b9 | Ebmaj9 Ab13#11 |
| Cm9 F7b13 | Bb 6/9 |

There's numerous variations of I Got Rhytm changes from the bepop era. Bebop musicians like Bud Powell and Charlie Parker used the form as a vehicle for improvisation usually with a new written melody. A tune like that is called "contrafact"


hey klink,

yeah, there are many different ways to go harmonically with rhythm chages. i like the 2, 5's that you were using on the bridge in your chord chart. those sound great! even if you're playing with a bass player who is just walking two bars of D7, two bars G7, two bars C7 and F7 it still works because it creates an 11th chord that resolves to a 7th chord.

there is another cool variation of that that works great too.

for the bridge:

|A-7 D7| Eb-7 Ab7| D-7 G7| Ab-7 Db7 |G-7 C7|C#-7 F#7 |C-7 F7 |F#-7 B7||

you'd probably want to give your bass player a little heads up with this one as it's a little tricky to hear on the fly.


Edited by dave solazzo (07/30/09 09:09 PM)
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#1240656 - 07/30/09 10:48 PM Re: I GOT RHYTHM [Re: dave solazzo]
Riddler Offline
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Elssa,

I just happened upon a site that has half-hour jazz piano lessons in MP3 form. There are two lessons on I Got Rhythm - one basic, the other with tritone subs. Here is the link:

http://www.jazzpianoteacher.co.uk/index.htm


Ed
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My fingers are slow, but easily keep pace with my thoughts.


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#1240669 - 07/30/09 11:07 PM Re: I GOT RHYTHM [Re: Riddler]
etcetra Offline
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Yea there are countless variation to rhythm changes. Someone showed me this variation for the first 4 bars of rhythm changes

F#min7 B7|Emin7 A7|Dmin7 G7|Cmin7 F7|

I think there is a bebop head where you are sidestepping on the entire bridge like this

Bbmin7 Eb7|Amin7 D7|Ebmin7 Ab7|Dmin7 G7|Abmin7 Db7|Gmin7 C7|Dbmin7 Gb7|Cmin7 F7

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#1244039 - 08/05/09 01:13 PM Re: I GOT RHYTHM [Re: etcetra]
Elssa Offline
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Quote:
I just happened upon a site that has half-hour jazz piano lessons in MP3 form. There are two lessons on I Got Rhythm - one basic, the other with tritone subs. Here is the link:

http://www.jazzpianoteacher.co.uk/index.htm

Just noticed this...Thanks, Riddler. smile

Has anyone seen this progression used for key of Bb?

Bb, Db9, Cm7, F7. I saw it somewhere and was wondering why the Db9 was used.

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#1244109 - 08/05/09 03:19 PM Re: I GOT RHYTHM [Re: Elssa]
KlinkKlonk Offline
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Db9 is tritone substitution for G7alt

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#1244191 - 08/05/09 05:39 PM Re: I GOT RHYTHM [Re: KlinkKlonk]
Elssa Offline
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Posts: 1580
Loc: NY
Thanks, I suspected that was a tritone there but never saw it used that way before.. Just tried it out tho and it sounds pretty good.

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