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#1246742 - 08/10/09 01:23 PM What happens @ a first level Piano guild audition?
BSP Offline
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Registered: 09/03/07
Posts: 209
Loc: Hudson Valley, NY

Hello all,
I have a Suzuki student who's 5 years old and has been playing for just about a year. Her mother continually asks me about the Piano Guild. I wonder if this particular student is too immature for an audition for this type, and wanted to know what is required at a first level audition.

I just sent my check into the guild for membership, so I'm afraid I don't have this information as yet. I'm just asking so that I know what to tell the Mom when she asks me about it again next week..

thanks!
BevP

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#1246762 - 08/10/09 02:03 PM Re: What happens @ a first level Piano guild audition? [Re: BSP]
John v.d.Brook Offline
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Registered: 03/18/06
Posts: 7200
Loc: Olympia, Washington, USA
Bev,

I'll be happy to guide you through the process.

First, you'll need to decide what level of advancement your student has achieved. There are guidelines in the Syllabus which you will receive with your membership. But if you tell me what she can currently play well, I'll give you a rough idea.

Next, you'll want to decide what size program your student will present. Local = 1-2 pieces; District = 3 - 6 pieces; State = 7 - 9 pieces; National = 10 - 14 pieces; International = 15 - 20 pieces.

Depending upon the student's level, the pieces may be substituted with phases, which are technical skills: scales, chords, arpeggios, sight reading, transposition, ear training, etc. There are very tight regulations regarding this, so you need to study the syllabus carefully.

When the student reaches upper elementary, the repertoire must include one piece from each major musical period, which means Baroque, Classical, Romantic, Contemporary.

Guild has special programs for jazz, duets, social music, etc., so you need to determine what mom is looking for. I would guess, she's after the standard.

By the way, all performances must be memorized. Students must be able to play the scale and primary chord cadence in the key of each piece performed. The number of octaves is determined by the student's level of advancement.

Hope this helps you get started.

John
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#1246795 - 08/10/09 03:01 PM Re: What happens @ a first level Piano guild audition? [Re: John v.d.Brook]
BSP Offline
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Registered: 09/03/07
Posts: 209
Loc: Hudson Valley, NY
Hi John,
Thanks for replying. My student is currently playing pieces like Kabalevsky's "Melody" Op. 39, No.1, Kohler's "Children's Song".. pieces in that range. We haven't done any technical exercise like scales, etc. yet. The student is a typical 5 year old.. (short attention span at the lesson). If we spend more than 5 minutes at any one thing.. she's eager to tell me "I want to do something else". smile She's a Suzuki student, so memorization is not a problem.

I'm hoping that the auditions will be sometime in the spring, because my fear is that she's too immature at this point to perform in front of strangers in this sort of venue. Mom is really pushing her. By the spring, though, she'll have played in her 3rd recital. (she's a transfer.. I've only been teaching her since the end of May)

thanks again for replying,
BevP

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#1246829 - 08/10/09 03:50 PM Re: What happens @ a first level Piano guild audition? [Re: BSP]
John v.d.Brook Offline
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Registered: 03/18/06
Posts: 7200
Loc: Olympia, Washington, USA
Sounds like she may be level Elementary B or C.

I'd start her off with a District or State level program. You yourself need to show complete confidence in her ability, and she will take her clues from you!

And the fact is that playing an audition is much less actual stress than playing a competition. The student is being measured against criteria for the level she's at. Don't plug her in too advanced.

She will need to play 1 octave scales, hands together, in the key of each piece and a I-V-V primary chord cadence. This should be a piece of cake for her. I'd start now with the scales, limit yourself to the 7 white key majors. If her attention span is 5 minutes, that's about perfect for working on one scale.

Once she has a piece memorized, keep it in her repertoire. I use a computer spread sheet to keep track of my students' repertoire, scales, chords, etc., then print it out and place it in a 3 ring binder, which I keep at the piano.

You don't need to send in the Audition enrollment form until Jan, as you are doing only 1 student, they will be happy to have you to plug in a time hole somewhere. If you decide to go for State, she should pretty much have her music down and memorized by late March. This will give her two months to polish, while getting some relief learning new material.
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#1247153 - 08/11/09 09:22 AM Re: What happens @ a first level Piano guild audition? [Re: John v.d.Brook]
BSP Offline
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Registered: 09/03/07
Posts: 209
Loc: Hudson Valley, NY
Hi John,
I will not enroll her in the auditions if I'm not confident in her abilities. That I know for sure. I am really concerned about her maturity at this point. She's a lovely girl, but really hard to manage at the lesson. Though she turns 6 at the end of this year, she's a "young" 5. It's a good thing she is a Suzuki student, because Mom is there at the lessons. I am interested in seeing how she does in her first semester of first grade. If she settles down some, I may submit her name.

So far, she has had 2 other teachers... one who left abruptly mid-semester, and the next teacher with whom she finished the semester. I have to say here that her second teacher, by the end of the semester, has stopped taking beginners. Is this a coincidence? I don't know.. smile

For example, the student's technique is really poor. She has a tendency to karate chop her pinky. What I mean by this is that she rotates her whole hand when her pinky has a play a note, and places practically the whole finger on the key to play it. I've seen this happen a lot with her. When I correct her, she pouts and shuts down. I can't have her go to Guilds with that karate chop, can I?

As for reviewing repertoire, this is another example of the student's immaturity. Once she plays a song hands together, she wants to jump to the next song in the book, whether she's ready or not. This student is a "live wire"!! Can I tame the bronco in her? Not sure, but stay tuned. smile

Thanks for your help,
BevP

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