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#1252133 - 08/19/09 06:44 PM
Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
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Here's my recording of Standchen by Schubert, arranged by Liszt. This was a really fun and rewarding piece to learn. Standchen, Schwanengesang - S 560 Constructive comments are welcome. Thanks for listening!
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#1252137 - 08/19/09 06:56 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
[Re: ab-ster]
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Wonderful!!! This is one of my top favorite transcriptions of all time. Other than perhaps a handful of spots, you carried the melody perfectly to my ears. I'll look at the score while listening later to pinpoint anything and to make sure it wasn't just me. The Steinway sounds gorgeous and very well tuned. Your pp touch is great, too! Horowitz's recording of Ständchen is a must have. It's on the Horowitz at Home disc from Deutsch-Grammophon. 
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#1252543 - 08/20/09 11:15 AM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
[Re: ab-ster]
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I'm glad you enjoy it as much as I do. What's more amazing is how old he was at the time. I looked at my score...yeah, those look like a bit of trouble unless you have a really large hand. Pull those out and practice them by themselves until you can play them well.
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#1255283 - 08/24/09 04:09 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
[Re: ab-ster]
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Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
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oh i forgot that i have this piece, it's one of the best melodies ever written. It's gorgeous and you do a great job! I love your soulfullness.
I'll have to pull it out again.
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#1257265 - 08/27/09 02:14 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
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Hi, excellent recording. i really enjoyed it. I wonder, are you playing the ossia staves at the beginning or the more difficult ones? I've noticed than even in recordings by professional pianists they tend to play a mixture of the two.
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#1257439 - 08/27/09 07:42 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
[Re: ab-ster]
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I found your interpretation to be quite tasteful and respectful of both composer and transcriber. If I may, I would make a few suggestions though. Firstly, I would advise using more pedal in the first four measures (are you using any?). The notes in the right hand are supposed to be staccato but you still should pedal through at least a little bit (according to my sheet music, Liszt even wrote it in). It's a little startling when the melody in the right hand begins in measure 5 and the base line is no longer sounds staccato. Secondly, from measures 66-85 and 94-97, the top voice should act as a sort of echo so I'd suggest playing those parts a bit softer if you can or bringing the lower voice out more. Thirdly, let's see more videos from you!  Honestly, you did a really great job. I wish there were more people like you on YouTube. It looks like you've really worked hard and thought about this piece a lot. Keep up the good work!
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#1257692 - 08/28/09 07:42 AM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
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I know the piece,have heard it hundreds times and different performances but it never touched me so much as now. Great job!
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#1264920 - 09/08/09 10:25 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
[Re: ab-ster]
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It's on my hard drive now. Great job!
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#1267430 - 09/13/09 10:15 AM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
[Re: ab-ster]
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@pianoloverus: Thanks for your comments on dynamic. I didn't pay attention to the dynamic markings on the score and went with my own feeling. I'll study that when I come back to work on this piece again.
Actually it's not the dynamic markings in the score I was talking about since I didn't have the score in front of me. But if you listen to only the melody I think that playing the first triplet f or ff and the second one pp would not make sense. Also, the first G I mentioned should not be accented because it sounds wrong(in a descending second the lower note is rarely accented). If you sing a melody, almost everyone get's things right almost automatically, so it can be helpful to to this. Also helpful is to ask yourself "What is the most important note in within a group of notes or a phrase?".
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#1267612 - 09/13/09 04:45 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
[Re: ab-ster]
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@cruiser: Thanks. I used Canon VIXIA HF200 to record the video. For audio, I used M-Audio Pulsar II matched pair, Tascam US-122 soundcard and recorded straight to PC. I used compressor to trim the loud sound and bring the level up, then Freeverb2 to add grand room ambience. Thanks ab-ster... ...and there was I thinking I might get similar results with my Canon IXUS and Windows Moviemaker - oh well!
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#1274439 - 09/24/09 07:29 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
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This melody is so familiar to me and yet until just recently, I owned no recording of it. Since I don't listen to the radio, I am at a loss as to where I've heard this. Does anyone know if this has been redone as some sort of (older) pop song, or perhaps in soundtracks of some old movie(s)?
Thanks again to ab-ster for posting this.
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#1274443 - 09/24/09 07:34 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
[Re: Damon]
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This melody is so familiar to me and yet until just recently, I owned no recording of it. Since I don't listen to the radio, I am at a loss as to where I've heard this. Does anyone know if this has been redone as some sort of (older) pop song, or perhaps in soundtracks of some old movie(s)? It's one of Schubert's most well-known Lieder, and you hear it in this form (voice and piano), but also in all sorts of orchestral and instrumental arrangements. I should think it would be difficult to get through your life without hearing it at least 20 times. 
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#1275000 - 09/25/09 04:01 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
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This melody is so familiar to me and yet until just recently, I owned no recording of it. Since I don't listen to the radio, I am at a loss as to where I've heard this. Does anyone know if this has been redone as some sort of (older) pop song, or perhaps in soundtracks of some old movie(s)? It's one of Schubert's most well-known Lieder, and you hear it in this form (voice and piano), but also in all sorts of orchestral and instrumental arrangements. I should think it would be difficult to get through your life without hearing it at least 20 times. I've never heard it sung until about a week ago. (that's not the sort of singing my ears can tolerate) Must have been a movie.
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#1275755 - 09/26/09 06:32 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
[Re: Damon]
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Great job ab-ster. What a pleasure to listen to your performance. Thanks so much for posting this. And as said above, let's hear more from you!
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#1280362 - 10/04/09 06:12 AM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
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Very beautiful. I love the sound of the piano and the recording quality.
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#1280896 - 10/05/09 12:51 AM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
[Re: ab-ster]
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WOW!!! you did AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! A lot of people play this without the staccato, however you played it 'the right' way which is awesome, i tried to play it with staccato but i cant make it sound as nice as yours!
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#1347167 - 01/11/10 08:48 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
[Re: ab-ster]
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Nice job. This is pretty good ab-ster. Whatever you used to record the audio it certainly worked very, very well. I think your pedalling in the opening measures works perfectly. This is a work that you REALLY have to listen to yourself with. If you don't all of those dynamic nuances will be lost. Nice attention to the details. Have you ever heard the Horowitz recording of this transcription? It's one of the most beautiful things I've EVER heard and left me stunned speechless the first time I listened to it. Perahia, has recorded it as well, and it's fantastic too, but not quite Horowitz.
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#1347204 - 01/11/10 09:36 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
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Oh, I hadn't seen that. It's amazing isn't it?
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#1347232 - 01/11/10 09:59 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
[Re: stores]
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Oh, I hadn't seen that. It's amazing isn't it? It sure is; his playing during those last 3-4 years (beginning with the Soviet Union tour) was nothing short of phenomenal.
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#1347341 - 01/12/10 12:30 AM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
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By the way, your link doesn't work any longer, because, apparently, the video has been pulled. There are a few others on Youtube, of the same recording though. I was listening to my recording again earlier and every time I hear it, I say, "how the HELL does he do that?"
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"It's ok if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right."
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#1347376 - 01/12/10 02:38 AM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
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You know, I would, if I could figure out how to post links here (can't seem to figure out how to post images either). I'm sure once I figure it out I'll give myself a big DUH.
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"It's ok if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right."
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#1348282 - 01/13/10 01:42 AM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
[Re: stores]
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All you should have to do is paste the URL; it will convert to hypertext automatically. If you wish to get fancy: [url=http://www.anysite.com]Hey, look here[/url] That will allow you to name it whatever you want, or shorten a long URL.
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#1348567 - 01/13/10 12:57 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
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No problem!
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#1353135 - 01/19/10 01:56 AM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
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I know this is an old thread - but Apple (I could set up an Estonian keyboard - sorry) has summed it up in exactly the words I would use - but would have been too embarrassed to. As they say in Australia, 'Good on you Apple!'
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#1353634 - 01/19/10 08:09 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
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#1357084 - 01/24/10 01:23 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
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Very delicate playing abster, very very nice.
Could you tell me a bit more about the gear you've used to record audio and video?
Thx
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#1361230 - 01/29/10 08:45 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
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So beautiful!
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#1362454 - 01/31/10 05:00 PM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
[Re: ab-ster]
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Registered: 08/05/09
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Very excellently-played piece. It is clear from the recording you are connecting with the music, expressing it very well.
Thank you for posting such a beautiful melody!
Glen
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#1363120 - 02/01/10 10:33 AM
Re: Standchen - Schubert & Liszt
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