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#1261467 - 09/03/09 12:37 AM
Re: YPG-635 optional 3 pedal unit
[Re: Nikalette]
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Registered: 04/13/09
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Sorry, I don't know about the pedals but I'm curious if you're otherwise happy with your new Yamaha. Now that the honeymoon is over would you do it again?
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#1261489 - 09/03/09 01:26 AM
Re: YPG-635 optional 3 pedal unit
[Re: Ludwig van Bilge]
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Registered: 12/22/08
Posts: 1062
Loc: California
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Sorry, I don't know about the pedals but I'm curious if you're otherwise happy with your new Yamaha. Now that the honeymoon is over would you do it again? Probably not. The problems are the lack of portability, the lack of lines out, and the sketchy MAC compatability. It is a good keyboard, but I was under the gun since I had no playable keyboard or piano, and might have chosen differently with more time. If I start over, I'd probably get either the V-piano or the Privia 330, depending on whether I was going for high quality or convenience. The ideal would be both. I really wouldn't have gone anywhere in between, slightly better touch or sound, like the 155 or FP-7, because for me the difference isn't big enough to justify the cost. It would have had to be a LOT better or a LOT more convenient. What seemed important about the YPG turned out not to be important. It is just so HARD to pick among all the models, sometimes you just want it to be over, and I got a great deal. It's so good, I might be able to sell it and break even. I'm not really unhappy, just having a bit of buyer's remorse. I actually tried to return it, but missed the 14 day return policy by a couple of days.
Edited by Nikalette (09/03/09 01:27 AM)
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#1261491 - 09/03/09 01:31 AM
Re: YPG-635 optional 3 pedal unit
[Re: Ludwig van Bilge]
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Registered: 12/22/08
Posts: 1062
Loc: California
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Sorry, I don't know about the pedals but I'm curious if you're otherwise happy with your new Yamaha. Now that the honeymoon is over would you do it again? One other thing: the music holder is so far back on the YPG it's really hard to read music.
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#1261504 - 09/03/09 02:25 AM
Re: YPG-635 optional 3 pedal unit
[Re: Nikalette]
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Registered: 08/18/09
Posts: 374
Loc: California
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Is it futher back than is the case on other yamaha DPs? I'll have to go scope that out now that you mention it.
I'm a little review driven although i try to take them with a grain of salt so when i went to musicians friend and read the first review for the 635 i sort of thought oh oh. So part of the reason i came here a little while ago was i thought it might be time to upgrade from the $400 yamaha I'd bought 4 years ago or so. I don't want to totally let other people do my thinking for me but i don't want to ignore their opinions either and after being here a couple of weeks it's hard not to seriously consider the P155. The casios are tempting because of their prices but the reports of the clacking worry me.
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#1261526 - 09/03/09 03:07 AM
Re: YPG-635 optional 3 pedal unit
[Re: Nikalette]
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Registered: 05/23/08
Posts: 42
Loc: Sweden
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If I start over, I'd probably get either the V-piano. Now that's a BIG jump.
Edited by cod3name47 (09/03/09 03:08 AM)
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#1261683 - 09/03/09 10:23 AM
Re: YPG-635 optional 3 pedal unit
[Re: Machicavelli]
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Registered: 12/22/08
Posts: 1062
Loc: California
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If I start over, I'd probably get either the V-piano. Now that's a BIG jump. Well, the story was that in December I decided to upgrade to a better piano from the Wurlitzer studio upright I had for about 20 years. I never considered a digital, but bought a 1927 Knabe grand for $5,500, which had a beautiful tone but a few problems. After 2 evaluations, I learned it needed at least $2500 worth of work and had many defects. I had to go to small claims court to get my refund, which I did, but I'm still out about $600 for the evaluations. That was the piano I was replacing though, because I had also given my upright away and had nothing but a 50ish key Casio I bought for my daughter many years ago. So the 635 was actually a big step down and the Roland V would be a lateral step, nearly a straight across trade for the Knabe. I was and am still so burned from my last experience that I just wanted the cheapest decent digital I could find , and I had no piano at all in the meanwhile.
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#1261685 - 09/03/09 10:28 AM
Re: YPG-635 optional 3 pedal unit
[Re: limavady]
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1000 Post Club Member
Registered: 12/22/08
Posts: 1062
Loc: California
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Is it futher back than is the case on other yamaha DPs? I'll have to go scope that out now that you mention it.
I'm a little review driven although i try to take them with a grain of salt so when i went to musicians friend and read the first review for the 635 i sort of thought oh oh. So part of the reason i came here a little while ago was i thought it might be time to upgrade from the $400 yamaha I'd bought 4 years ago or so. I don't want to totally let other people do my thinking for me but i don't want to ignore their opinions either and after being here a couple of weeks it's hard not to seriously consider the P155. The casios are tempting because of their prices but the reports of the clacking worry me. I think it is further back, because it has a very wide area with buttons and the LCD. I noticed when I took lessons with an instructor with a Yamaha grand that her piano's music holder was very far back. I don't think it's an issue for everyone, but if you need glasses for close-up, it's too far back for the reading glasses to work, but too close for me to read without reading glasses. I just wedge the music into another place, or turn the stand around backwards. Although I took my own headphones when trying out pianos, I didn't think to take music, so I never noticed.
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#1261716 - 09/03/09 11:16 AM
Re: YPG-635 optional 3 pedal unit
[Re: Nikalette]
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Registered: 08/18/09
Posts: 374
Loc: California
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I wonder if someone were to buy a casio model like the 330 if getting the 3 year extended warranty would allow them to get another if the clacky key issue surfaced as some people say it does with casios. It looks like those warranties are more about trying to fix the problem first; maybe calling musicians friend customer service and talking to someone other than the salesperson on the phone of emailing and specifically expressing this concearn (and that you would be able to just get a new one if this happened rather than have them either diddle with it or say it's a non-issue and not want to 'fix' it at all as casio apparently seems to be not overly acknowledging the problem)---to ensure that you wouldn't have to worry about this if it were to occur- Other than that the 330 seems like it would be great, sound and price wise.
I'm probably going to get a P155 but if i had a bit more room i may be tempted to get the ydp223....only thing is it seems like a last generation in some ways; don't think it has the 4 sample sounds....but it has 3 pedals FWIW to me, the reviews (on Musicians friend anyway) are stellar and with that $200 off code plus a bit more they'd throw in you might get it for about 1300....also they are big enough i think they have a 45 day return and are really good about not messing with you on the returns.
Good luck though, i know how it is to have buyer's remorse or to get something and then end up realizing you need something better and now you've made two puchases to get there! It would be cool if you could sell the 635 for about what you got it for.
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#1261787 - 09/03/09 12:48 PM
Re: YPG-635 optional 3 pedal unit
[Re: limavady]
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1000 Post Club Member
Registered: 12/22/08
Posts: 1062
Loc: California
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I wonder if someone were to buy a casio model like the 330 if getting the 3 year extended warranty would allow them to get another if the clacky key issue surfaced as some people say it does with casios. It looks like those warranties are more about trying to fix the problem first; maybe calling musicians friend customer service and talking to someone other than the salesperson on the phone of emailing and specifically expressing this concearn (and that you would be able to just get a new one if this happened rather than have them either diddle with it or say it's a non-issue and not want to 'fix' it at all as casio apparently seems to be not overly acknowledging the problem)---to ensure that you wouldn't have to worry about this if it were to occur- Other than that the 330 seems like it would be great, sound and price wise.
I'm probably going to get a P155 but if i had a bit more room i may be tempted to get the ydp223....only thing is it seems like a last generation in some ways; don't think it has the 4 sample sounds....but it has 3 pedals FWIW to me, the reviews (on Musicians friend anyway) are stellar and with that $200 off code plus a bit more they'd throw in you might get it for about 1300....also they are big enough i think they have a 45 day return and are really good about not messing with you on the returns.
Good luck though, i know how it is to have buyer's remorse or to get something and then end up realizing you need something better and now you've made two puchases to get there! It would be cool if you could sell the 635 for about what you got it for. Thanks. I paid about $150 less than Best Buy charges for it, which is usual $400 or $500 below retail, and I got a bench for free, so I might be able to come close, if I throw in the 3 pedal unit for free. I have heard good things about B&H Video, but the only problem is the 14 day return policy versus the 45 day policy you mention with Musician's Friend. The other thing I might consider is buying locally, because shipping something back is a big hassle, and a smaller store might be willing to take it back for a trade up.
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#1262018 - 09/03/09 07:35 PM
Re: YPG-635 optional 3 pedal unit
[Re: Nikalette]
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500 Post Club Member
Registered: 08/28/08
Posts: 595
Loc: Lakewood, CA
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Limavady:
I don't know that the extended warranty will fix noisy keys just because their noisy. If it stops working, then it becomes a legitimate warranty issue. The fact is, a digital piano is an approximation of a real piano. The hammers on a DP don't strike strings, rather they strike a piece of felt or some other dampening material which creates a mechanical noise. This is an attribute all DP's share as the keys all make noise. Now in regard to Casio, there is a tendency for their keybeds to become overly noisy to the point of distraction. The keys still function, but with undesireable noise to some users--this becomes the dilemma. Retailers don't usually exchange something beyond the return period. I would not expect any retailer to exchange something simply because it has an extended warranty. You should also realize the extended warranty is often a third party company not affiliated with the merchant you bought it from. Few piano dealers offer repairs on their premisis.
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#1262058 - 09/03/09 08:58 PM
Re: YPG-635 optional 3 pedal unit
[Re: galaxy4t]
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Registered: 08/18/09
Posts: 374
Loc: California
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yea i hear you galaxy4t and that's why i suggested calling cusomer service to address this potential problem in advance. of course they may not be able to tell you....unless this has come up with other pianos and i was thinking with a place like musicians friend they sell alot of stuff so may have an answer to this...but like you said it's another company that handles the repairs....anyway, if this were to happen i'd want to know if they'd (musicians friend or warranty company) consider this a valid repair or even replacement situation. Considering the keys clacking (felt or whatever) I'd at least call them and ask before buying, that's all. ----not arguing with what your saying though about them not exchanging beyond a certain time; but again that's why i'd call to express this concearn.
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