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Originally Posted by CoffeeLover
Hi Hugh-

Bumblebee perfectly makes sense in the measures 15 through 18 which I didn't get the rhythm right until now. You are amazing!

I just hope this is not taking too much of your time away from your family.
Zoo, Disney land, romantic dinner and stuff...
If there is anything I can help to save some of your time, please let me know.
I really mean it.

Thanks again.
That's so sweet of you, CoffeeLover! Thanks so much - i may PM you with some computer network questions soon. Have a great holiday weekend!

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Lesson #23 Measures 15-16 Part 3

After learning the raw notes, we talk about how to smooth out the entire passage without rhythmic "speed bumps". We develop some custom exercises to overcome the most dangerous spots in the passage by isolating them and focusing them in a separate document called a "Practice Journal" (my PJ's!) By developing smart practicing strategies instead of just plowing through note to note, we can speed our learning exponentially.



Enjoy, and have a terrific Labor Day Holiday, Everyone!

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Hi Hugh,

I've been avidly following your tutorials and whilst not currently learning this piece (it is on my ToDo list though) I wanted to say how much I've enjoyed watching your approach, techniques and methods.

There is much to learn from this, the most recent lesson (23) on cutting and pasting to build a "Practice Journal" is particularly noteworthy and an excellent idea.

One comment though, I have tried to do something very similar in the past using Adobe Acrobat Reader and PDF files, but (a big but!)... It doesn't appear to allow you to cut and paste as easily as you can in your video demonstartions. When using Adobe, I had to maximise the application and score and take a full "desktop" screen grab, then do further processing of this image in MS Paint to get the individual bars or phrases I was after, which, whilst it worked, was quite laborious.

Please can you tell us a bit more about the features of the MusicReader software and can it "read" or load PDF sheet music files?

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EJR: If you have Windows Vista, you can make use of the "snipping" tool to copy rectangular or irregular sections of the screen which can then be pasted into windows journal or another app of your choice. It removes the print screen/paste in graphics app, copy small section steps.

Not sure if the snipping tool is available for XP except as part of the Tablet edition? There's probably a similar app you can install though, but if you're using Vista, you already have it smile

MusicReader which you've seen in Hugh's videos, comes as two programs, the first (seen in the videos) displays the score and allow you to move forwards/backwards through it in full or half page steps. Along with various annotation options such as freehand drawing on the score and a few other features.

The 2nd is Music Convertor which will take a set of image files (or via scanner) and allow you to put them together in a suitable page order (you can repeat pages as needed too). This is then saved for later use in Music Reader.

The final option, which is what you'd use for the PDF files, is a virtual printer that music reader installs. So getting a pdf into music convertor is as simple as opening it and selecting print smile

There's a demo of MusicReader that is worth installing and giving a road test.

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EJR: If you have Windows Vista, you can make use of the "snipping" tool to copy rectangular or irregular sections of the screen which can then be pasted into windows journal or another app of your choice. It removes the print screen/paste in graphics app, copy small section steps.

Not sure if the snipping tool is available for XP except as part of the Tablet edition? There's probably a similar app you can install though, but if you're using Vista, you already have it smile

MusicReader which you've seen in Hugh's videos, comes as two programs, the first (seen in the videos) displays the score and allow you to move forwards/backwards through it in full or half page steps. Along with various annotation options such as freehand drawing on the score and a few other features.

The 2nd is Music Convertor which will take a set of image files (or via scanner) and allow you to put them together in a suitable page order (you can repeat pages as needed too). This is then saved for later use in Music Reader.

The final option, which is what you'd use for the PDF files, is a virtual printer that music reader installs. So getting a pdf into music convertor is as simple as opening it and selecting print smile

There's a demo of MusicReader that is worth installing and giving a road test.

Thanks so much, Gary001! Couldn't have explained Vista's Snipping tool or MusicReader better than that wink

You can download a free demo version of MusicReader for Windows or Mac here:

MusicReader demo page at www.AirTurn.com

I'll work on another video talking about other snipping options for Windows XP and Mac, as well as an overview of MusicReader's capabilities. It's an amazing program that i use every day for my performing, practicing, and teaching activities.

One of the main motivations in creating the "Clair de lune from scratch" series has been to show how powerful and effective digital tools like MusicReader can be for music pedagogy. The only way to truly appreciate what these tools can do is to "experience them" first hand, and I hope you'll continue to find these video lessons helpful.

Have fun practicing, and don't forget to enjoy your holiday weekend for those of you in the USA!

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I'm all caught up with the videos through lesson #23, now I need to practice more.

Now that we've got a taste of something different in the piece with measures #15-16, I can see how we'll make it to 27, but I'm really curious to see what happens from there all the way through the end of the piece, which looks impossible to me right now!

Thanks for these, Hugh. Clear teaching, good quality videos, and all the bells and whistles really help out. You've got quite a setup and a lot of talent to put it to use.


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OK-it wasn't a "duh" slap myself on the forehead moment, but the tai chi example in lesson #19 really hit home. I've practiced tai chi and now the connection I think will help me in all my playing! Thanks for ANOTHER great learning tip!


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Hugh,

I am very interested in learning how to use the cut/paste applications in conjunction with Music Reader. I'm using a Mac.

Really enjoying the lessons. Thanks again


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Elwyn also sent me a PM that I responded to but I thought I'd post a response here too since I've gotten another request to make this thread sticky.

We made the collective decision a while ago to limit the number of sticky threads cluttering the front page and instead create the "important topics" thread with links to threads of enduring value such as the recitals, study groups, etc. We currently have a recital and 4-5 study groups active so you can see there'd be an awful lot of sticky threads.

I agree this has been and continues to be a very interesting and useful thread (thanks Hugh!) And will add it to the list of study groups in the "important topics" thread. I'm somewhat internet challenged at this point but I promise I won't forget.

Also, please don't hijack this excellent thread to debate whether this or other threads should or shouldn't be sticky.


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Just wanted to say that I am still lurking on this thread - and enjoying the tutorials.

Who says learning classical music has to be boring??


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I'm eagerly awaiting lesson 24 Hugh, and thanks again for this excellent series.


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Hey Cruiser, it's Labor Day! You're supposed to take the day off.
Ooops, I see you're in Germany. Oh well, never mind. smile


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'ooops' from here too, jazzyprof - thanks for the reminder and I hope you've all had - are having - a relaxing hol in the USA!


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Hugh,

Here's a Russian edition of the score with fingering (from piano.ru):

http://www.box.net/shared/yqm7j4n21e

Your fingering is easier, but this edition is nice to have, even with the difficult stretch from Eb to Bb with 5-4 in measure 5.

It's really, really great to hear you stress the joy of learning to play.


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Mel, these fingerings are very similar to those which I use. My teacher suggested them as they allow for playing legato throughout, and she is totally paranoid about legato playing (which I actually very like about her teaching). They might be more difficult for some though, as they seem awkward at times.

Thanks for the score, I'm sure many will find it useful!


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Lesson #24: Measures 15-16 & Measure 17, Part 1

Now that we've learned the notes for measures 15-16, we'll explore a couple of pedaling options. Be sure to review lessons 16.1 and 16.2 for the basics on pedaling if you haven't seen them before.
We then start to look at the beginning of measure 17, by noticing a new French term for the "right hand" ("main droite") which helps play an extra note together with the left hand. I also give a quick overview of what we'll cover in the next lessons for measures 17-18.


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Originally Posted by dannylux
Hugh,

Here's a Russian edition of the score with fingering (from piano.ru):

http://www.box.net/shared/yqm7j4n21e

Your fingering is easier, but this edition is nice to have, even with the difficult stretch from Eb to Bb with 5-4 in measure 5.

It's really, really great to hear you stress the joy of learning to play.


Mel





Thank you so much for this score, Mel! The fingering i give in the videos lessons are purposefully simplified - if there's enough interest out there, I could look into presenting a seminar to explore some cool advanced fingering and pedaling techniques smile

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Hi Hugh. I just joined your "class". I just wanted to say thanks so much for all the work your putting into this! :-)

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Hi Hugh,

There is something I'd noticed in the recently covered bars that I'd like to ask about. It's the articulation mark "tenuto" (I think) either above or below the chords.


In bars 15 (top note of the chords both LH & RH), in bar 16 (top RH & Bottom LH), and in bar 17 other than the first RH chord, they are not present.

Does this mean that the note should be accented and if so: how can you vary the relative 'emphasis' of the notes within a chord and can you suggest any ways or methods to practice this skill?

Best wishes,

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Originally Posted by RobinL
Hi Hugh. I just joined your "class". I just wanted to say thanks so much for all the work your putting into this! :-)

Welcome to the "class", RobinL! Hope you have fun learning alongside the rest of us!

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