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#1156375 - 03/03/09 08:33 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Waltz]
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Originally Posted By: Waltz
Thanks Undone. I wish they'd give reminders. How long have you been on book 2?


Waltz, I've been working on book 2 for about 10 months now. I've also been working on scales and a number of other supplemental pieces during this time frame.

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#1156597 - 03/03/09 03:38 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Key Notes]
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Please forgive me if this question has been asked and answered before in this thread but I gave up trying to search for it.

I am about a month or so from finishing Alfred's Self Teaching Course level one which corresponds/is almost identical to the All in One level one book. My question is; how does the level two, or book two compare to the level one book? Does it seem to just pick up where the other left off, does it seem harder, easier or just new and different?

I've been assuming it would just be like going from one grade to the next in elementary school. Any opinions? Thanks.
Once again, sorry if this is a redundant question.

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#1156738 - 03/03/09 07:47 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: dukeofhesse]
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Undone,
Your time spent certainly reflects your uploaded performances (absolutely top notch).

dukeofhesse,
You're grade level analogy is mostly accurate. However (IMHO) book one would be equivalent to the 8th grade (yes, not elementary, sorry to deviate) while book two is the whole of high school (grades 9 - 12). Book two will (more than likely) take much, much more time and effort (and frustration).
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#1156758 - 03/03/09 08:22 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: funburger]
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I have completed Book Two and am impressed with the selection of Alfred's music throughout. We must remember we do not have to necessarily "like" the music but rather learn what is being spoon fed to us and progress from it.

I found the Alfred books great in that regard. I started into Book Three but soon found out I was at my maximum capability due to my age and other factors. So now I pick and choose tunes in the blues genre, which I enjoy, but I still go back and play tunes from Alfred, such as The Entertainer, Amazing Grace, Canon in D, Frankie and Johnnie and so on.
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#1156794 - 03/03/09 09:26 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: DarenO]
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DarenO, could you elaborate why you felt you were at your maximum capability? Congrats on completing book 2; regardless, that is an accomplishment of which to be proud.
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#1156815 - 03/03/09 10:00 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Waltz]
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Hello Waltz, possibly that was an exaggeration. It was actually Canon in D at the end of Book Two that took me quite awhile to play it reasonably well. So I thought that the pieces in Book Three would be more difficult. Part of the problem was that I have had an injury to three fingers on my right hand that makes the measures on the last page of Canon hard to finger apart from some pain. On looking through Book Threee however I see many pieces I am sure I could learn.

The other problem is that I started piano when I was 72 without having had any musical training prior to that and now into my 4th year I fully realize I have no natural talent. If I had known it was going to be this difficult I probably would never have started. The reason I started the piano and took lessons was so that I could learn to play some blues. So at this point I am putting Alfred aside and trying some blues tunes as well as some boogie my teacher has picked out for me. My fingers can't move fast enough for boogie so after awhile I may return to Alfred!

As for what you are studying ... classic ... no way for me but best wishes to you.

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#1156835 - 03/03/09 10:24 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: DarenO]
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I understand now and I am sorry to hear of your injury. It is not fun to aggravate an injury, even if while doing something you love. Do you plan on doing blues/boogie lesson books or will you and your teacher pick pieces from various sources?
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#1156845 - 03/03/09 10:41 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Waltz]
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I really don't want to get into a "course" for blues although I did check one out on the Internet offered by Willie Myette as well as the David Sudnow Method. No, I will look for some fairly simple arrangements that do not include four finger chords. My teacher, a wonderful young lady, who has a university degree in music and has her own band, will help me choose pieces within my level of competence.

However, Waltz, if you know of any good pieces or source on the Internet I would appreciate hearing from you.

Cheers!
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#1157354 - 03/04/09 06:31 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: DarenO]
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DarenO, I don't know of any but I'll be on the look out laugh ; love to hear some future blues recordings, if you record any in the future be sure to post them here!

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Waltz


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#1157627 - 03/05/09 08:42 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Waltz]
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Hi all,

I have completed the Alfred's Basic Adult Piano Course Book #1, but my teacher decided to start me on the ABRSM syllabus and stop this series of books, starting from Grade 1. Anyone of you did the same after you completed Book #1, or Book #2? She says that this series are not good enough for a serious learner, and usually adult books move very quickly into music with little emphasis on techniques. What are your thoughts?

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#1158070 - 03/05/09 07:37 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Bihua]
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Well, if you want to be a concert pianist then Alfred's may not be "serious" enough. However, I consider myself a serious learner and I'm using Alfred's. I'm considering buying the ABRSM's level 2 materials after my completion of Book 2.
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#1158672 - 03/06/09 06:50 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Waltz]
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Currently on Circus March. Introduction to the chromatic scale. I enjoyed Brahms's Lullaby. Village Dance was certainly fun to "bang" out (also chromatic scale intro). Lonesome Road only took around fifteen minutes to learn yet is very pretty to play.

Ttigg, Key Notes, and Undone: How are you all doing? Any updates?
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#1158680 - 03/06/09 06:58 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Waltz]
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Howdy Waltz..

This week I'm moving onto Franky & Johnny and Walt (hehe) in G Major. Very close to the end of #2 now but I know that the last couple of songs (specially Canon in D) is going to take a little longer..

Also looking forward to some of the ending theory in #2 covering circle of fiths etc. thumb
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#1159053 - 03/07/09 01:30 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: TTigg]
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Very nice; how long do you anticipate working on Canon in D?
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#1159293 - 03/07/09 10:55 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Waltz]
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The Canon in D in this book is very nice, I tried. But unfortunately, it is not the original version, which I like it more. Wonder how more years of learning will it take before I can play the real Canon in D....

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#1159447 - 03/08/09 10:38 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Bihua]
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Not sure really,
I'd hope no longer than 2wks but we'll see. I also purchased a different version (full version) of Canon in D so I may just switch to that (with my teachers permission) and use this to "end the book with"
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#1159826 - 03/09/09 12:19 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Waltz]
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Originally Posted By: Waltz
Currently on Circus March. Introduction to the chromatic scale. I enjoyed Brahms's Lullaby. Village Dance was certainly fun to "bang" out (also chromatic scale intro). Lonesome Road only took around fifteen minutes to learn yet is very pretty to play.

Ttigg, Key Notes, and Undone: How are you all doing? Any updates?


Hi Waltz,

Sounds like you're moving along nicely, that's fabulous. Hmm, Lonesome Road took only 15 minutes, and yet pretty to play(?) I'm looking forward to it.

As for me, I've been revisiting and enjoying some of the older pieces from book 1, as well as focusing on polishing up on a couple of old pieces from book 2 such as Guantanamera and Overture. I've also managed to bring up the tempos of Light and Blue, minus a couple of mistakes towards the end of the second repeats (which drives me crazy) grin,
and with a pretty decent ending of the tremolo part as well. Plus, I'm also working on a piece called "Marriage D'amour" by Paul De Senneville, from Richard Clayderman's Anthology book.

I've found that it takes me just a bit longer to get my fingers to catch on to playing the rhythms of the blues style music eventhough my brain and hearing can register them just fine, as it also did in some of the blues pieces in book 1. But once I figured them out, they're so much fun to play.

I'm really enjoying Light and Blue right now, eventhough I should really be moving along to Hugarian Rhapsody No. 2 because I've already gotten a few runs through without any mistakes now. But because I also know that it doesn't mean that I played them perfectly, I guess I'm still working on it. Although, my left wrist have gotten quite exhausted by the many hours that I've put into it. Maybe I should give this song and my wrist a break by moving on to the next song. After all, I can always go back to it later on.

Well, onward and upwards. Happy playing to you and everyone.

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#1160071 - 03/09/09 01:33 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Key Notes]
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By learning Lonesome Road in 15 minutes I certainly do not mean by memory. What I did mean is that I could practically sight read the piece after little practice (the piece is RH broken cords while the LH is introduced to a new (and not incredibly challenging...) technique).

I made a video recording of a non Alfred's piece and put it on youtube. Would anyone like to view it? Let me know. (I don't have a midi cord for my Clav. so that is the best I can do smile )

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#1160341 - 03/09/09 09:53 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Waltz]
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I've been away from the forum for awhile, but since I put a recording of Guantanamera on the blog, I figured I would post it here. This is after two weeks, which means, by Alfred's standards, that is a long time (for me). I had quite a bit of difficulty with this, especially at first.

http://www.box.net/shared/b8ffm1e5xj

Unless my math fails me, there are 66 pieces in my Alfred's Book two, which means a little more than 5 per month to get that done in a year. Might take me a little longer than that.
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#1160342 - 03/09/09 09:55 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Key Notes]
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Keynotes, it looks like you are about 2 weeks ahead of me. A peer! I'm excited!

My teacher took a look at Light and Blue this evening and suggested we wait a week before trying it. I still don't quite have the Raymond Overture down just yet. Any suggestions, now that L&B is in your rear view mirror?


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#1160550 - 03/10/09 07:52 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Waltz]
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I made a video recording of a non Alfred's piece and put it on youtube. Would anyone like to view it? Let me know. (I don't have a midi cord for my Clav. so that is the best I can do smile )


Waltz, by all means, please go ahead and post the link. I for one would enjoy seeing it.

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#1160551 - 03/10/09 07:54 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Undone]
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AWTPP, Great job on Guantanamera! I found this piece to be rather tricky to get down too. When I first started practicing it, I hated it, but by the time I had it down, I really enjoyed playing it. That has happened to me quite a few times as I work my way through Alfred’s.

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#1160572 - 03/10/09 08:55 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Undone]
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Thank you. And yeah, that's what happened to me. When she assigned it, the teacher warned me we'd probably be spending a couple weeks on it. I had already tinkered a little, didn't like it, and said to myself, "Oh no we won't, not on this piece, it's too annoying to spend two weeks on." (Yes, when I talk to myself, I sometimes end sentences with prepositions.) She was right. And by the second week, when I could actually pay attention to things like dynamic markings and pedaling (which I seem to have forgotten on my recording), it was more fun.

Good thing, too, because there seem to be several similar pieces in the coming weeks. Correct me if I am wrong there.
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#1160694 - 03/10/09 01:35 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Always Wanted to Play Piano]
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AWTPP, I liked your performance as well, a job well done!

Here is the link to my rendition of Little Serenade by Joseph Haydn. It was one of the "50 Greats for the Piano" as published by Yamaha:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5dXwaptXag
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#1160990 - 03/10/09 11:26 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Waltz]
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Good job Waltz. I enjoyed it. Keep the videos coming.....

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#1161037 - 03/11/09 01:57 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: wj3]
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very nicely played! thumb
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#1161100 - 03/11/09 08:14 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: TTigg]
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Very nice Waltz! I enjoyed listening to that selection. One thing though; you need to find something a little more stable to hold the camera – things were getting a little wobbly there are times. laugh laugh laugh

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#1161283 - 03/11/09 01:30 PM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Undone]
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Walt, Ttigg, Undone:

Thanks so much, it means a lot to hear positive remarks. I totally agree Undone; it was more like a minor earthquake smile .

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#1161614 - 03/12/09 12:24 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Waltz]
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What a lovely piece. Nice job Waltz. Other than the shaking from the earthquake, grin which made me a bit dizzy, I really enjoyed it.

Thanks for sharing it with us.

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#1161642 - 03/12/09 02:35 AM Re: Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 [Re: Always Wanted to Play Piano]
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Keynotes, it looks like you are about 2 weeks ahead of me. A peer! I'm excited!

My teacher took a look at Light and Blue this evening and suggested we wait a week before trying it. I still don't quite have the Raymond Overture down just yet. Any suggestions, now that L&B is in your rear view mirror?



Hi AWtPTP,

Welcome back! And to book 2 thread. It's very nice hearing from you again and certainly glad that you've decided to join us here as well.

Sounds like your progress has been moving along quite nicely, that's fabulous! I also enjoyed your wonderful performance of Guantanamera. Thanks for sharing it with us.

In terms of suggestions for Light and Blue. Hm, I'm not so sure that I would be the person who's good enough or qualify enough to give you any great suggestions, but what I did noticed was asides from having the blues' rhythms and tempos, one of the main technical characteristics and feature of this piece is all of its big 8va jumps.

While they are lot of fun to play, I've found that I had to keep glancing down at my right hand whenever I come up to those 8va jumps, just to make sure that I'll land on the right keys/notes, whereas I don't have to do that with any of the other part of this song. Perhaps you'll have better luck with it.

Then, I've also selected to add in the optional tremolo style ending, which I didn't know how to do until Undone and TTigg came to the rescue and showed me the way with their wealth of knowledge and experiences. Basically it's like making your hands shake and tremble (thus tremolo) upon hitting those last five notes in the last measure, kind of like you're trying to do a drum roll effect. I'm sure that your teacher can also better demonstrate this technique to you as well, but in the mean time, check out these two videos that I received from Undone and TTigg.


Tremolo demonstation by Yoke Wong:




And although the over all tempo is a bit fast for my taste, here's PianoNoobAlexMan's interpretation of Light and Blue, which he also did the ending using the tremolo technique beautifully:



Good luck and have fun.

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