Actually, the coolest thing on the PX-330 is that they apparently included a pitch-bend/mod wheel. This makes it *much* better as a MIDI controller and for use with lead/solo sounds (i.e. guitar, mono synth, etc.)

Casio PX 130 demo by musik schmidt; Good for checking out the sound (maybe) as I didn't understand a thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCHExWyed8g

Oh, that was just posted on youtube today (sept 5) I see a few other video demos by them for the yamaha p155 and another casio model i think. ----The problem with these demos though is the sound is not nearly as stellar as the demo for the PX130 (link posted on the previous page) done by the casio marketing guy....that sound is superb and then when you compare the musik schmidt demo of the yamaha 155 the sound is not that hot and i know that the casio can't sound that much better than the yamaha- if anything the yamaha should inch it out perhaps----so the only way i figure to get a real comparison is to go to a guitar center that has both models in stock on their showroom floor, plug in your headphones to both and do a side by side comparison, not only of the sound but feel and touch etc.

The musik schmidt demos are cool enough but sound like they just miked the room....check out the official casio demo on youtube to see what i mean.

I finally have had a chance to try for 15-20 minutes the PX-130 at guitar center. There was next to it an AP-200, PX120, PX800, a Yamaha ypg-140, P-155, ...

All that follows is my opinion, and reflects what I like - you might feel differently.

1. The PX-130 action is improved compared to my PX-320. It seems tighter and more responsive - it is better in my opinion than the AP-200, PX120, pX800 that I have played next to it. I prefer it to the action of the YPG140 and YPG635 that was there as well.
2. I prefer the action of the P-155 action vs. the PX130.
3. Casio changed a little bit the shape of the black keys compared to the previous PX series - an improvement imo.
4. The PX-130 still sounds thin through the speakers.
5. I still don't like the voices other than Modern and Classic pianos. Even if they improved the strings, I still can't think I would ever use them.

To test the action, I play fast and try to be as fluid as it is possible on my Yamaha acoustic, I play trills that I learned from Sonatas and Chopin pieces.

Bottom line, I would buy the PX-130 as it would fit my needs for portability and silent practice. But unless it breaks, I would not replace my PX-320 for it.

Did you try the PX 330, since that's the upgrade from the model you have?

Vincent L.- the sounds you liked on the PX130, modern and classic piano...are one of those the 'main piano' sound? How did you like the 2 sounds you mentioned compared to the yamaha P155's main piano?

Nikalette- I think though that the 130 and 330 are the same action/playability-wise as well as the main sounds.

I just got a display PX 120 for $350. I'm just learning to play the piano though. Do you think I should return it and get the PX 130 at $500? I'd like to ask someone that has more experience with pianos than I do. I do like the feel of the PX series tho, more than the lighter feel of the Yamaha's. Whatcha think? Exchange or no? XD

what was the price you paid? As I mentioned to someone yesterday who had also bought a PX120 floor model for $350----this weekend musicians friend has the PX130 for $425...you have to order over the phone though and use the code word 'workers' to get the discount...check their site but like i said don't order there but over the phone with that # they give you on the promo which should pop up when you click on keyboards. So I'd probably say yes, but how much did you pay for it?

Oh. I'm the same person. I would love to order it, its just that I need to be able to try it out first, and needa be able to return my stuff first before I buy. As it is, I can't since I work all day tomorrow, just like I did today.

Edit:

The deal on musician's friend is good till Sep 7. Monday, 10:59 PM PST. I get off at work at 7 ISH, EST. Gives me an hour to drive home, grab the keyboard, and return (if needed), then take my time to order.

You are wonderful. Thank you.

There was no PX-330 to try. Guitar Center is a noisy place to play.
The p-155 is a very good DP, but it costs 2x more than the PX-130, so I don't consider the 2 DPs to target the same market.
My only point is that the PX-130 is a DP I can do with.

You have 3 piano voices on the PX-130 (like on the PX-120): Modern, Classic (darker) and variation (It's a piano voice with echo and other digital effects, which I do not know what it is for).
You then have electric pianos and some other voices like strings, organs, harpsichord, ...
I only cared for the 1st 2 piano voices on the PX-130 - I did not feel like I would use the other voices.
In that register, Yamaha does better. I remember I enjoyed laying out 2 voices together (Piano-Strings or Piano-Choir, ...) on my P-120.

The 3-pedals bar (SP32?) was not available for me to try it. I like the SP-30 I have on the PX-320. I know that I should expect it to fail.

Should you return your PX-120? If you have to cut on food to get the PX-130, I would not do it - If you can afford to pay for the PX-130 and you do not have to pay to return the PX-120, and you have the time to do so, I would go for it as I find the PX-130 action to be a little bit better than the previous PX-120, which is good imo.
The problem with such situation is that you might regret as time goes on if you don't do it. Both DPs are decent to learn with anyway you go for.

Thanks for your input. I'm going to try to get it. 75$ for the difference between an in-the-box newly released model, from the floor model of the older model, I'm willing to pay. The one thing TAKEN away was the rhythm accomp. if I read correctly above. Unimportant. (And I guess that's why I have my comp + midi controller)
When I receive it, I'll give what little feedback a newbie can. Because playing it in Guitar Center is completely different from trying it at home when its not so damn loud ( as i soon realized. )

Vincent, Thanks for the clarification on the voices. That's partly why I'm probably just going to go with the 130 as opposed to the 330 because it's often just those first 3, 2 or even just one main voice that you use or like anyway.

Oh, MeowR, is that you! Sorry, small world! The only potential problem may be that sometimes, depending how you paid i think, Guitar center and other places will issue you a check by mail within 7 days or whatever if you return stuff. If you have more available funds right now then no problem. --Unless GC will match the $425 and you can do a trade-up, that might work too...??

I'm still going through my own decision between the casio130 and yamaha p155 at more than twice the price. If the sound is obviously better on the yamaha I'll then have to decide if the perceived quality difference of the yamaha will push me to spending the extra for it----i feel like i'm trying to decide between a Hundai and a Toyota! Right now i'm leaning to the Hundai but don't want to feel sorry later.

Just wanted to point out on the Mike Martin Demo that the PX-130 is connected to an external amp/speakers. Notice there is a Y plug sticking out the side of the piano (where the headphones plug in). The internal speakers don't sound quite this good.

It did sound pretty darn good; I had thought maybe they were leading to a direct input to his recorder....but it does give perhaps an unrealistically rosey view of the 130 sound; the German 'Schmidt' video demos don't sound nearly as good even with yamahas i guess because they're really the instrument's speakers.

Tiny world.

@TyronB That demo and the one of the white colored PX 130 is also plugged in to external speakers. So those are NOT, definitely not representations of the sound. Besides, trying to listen to speakers through speakers is kind of.. well, doesn't work I think.

@limavady I've got enough, just more comfortable doing the transaction after I've returned it is all. If I can get Musician's Friend to price match some online deals on top of the workers discount, it might bring it to $450 with the CS 67 stand.

I think the USB Midi is a plus actually with the 130. Of course it kills the deal for a stage performer, but if you wanted a stage piano, you would probably lean toward the 330 or above anyhow. For home use, well, I don't have to always have my interface connected anymore.

If anyone already has this at home, or has played it in a quiet setting, would you be able to tell if the felt helps silence the thudding of the keys even just a little?

Yeah I guess so. I did at one point have my eyes set on the Casio PX 130/330 but I'm gonna pass it up and save for a Yamaha P155. Don't like the idea of buying twice.

I don't know if the thudding of the keys on some casios is something that happens at first; seems that people who've had this say it's after 6 months or so although others have said not at all. Still, this and perhaps another quality issue or two almost has me having buyer's remorse befor i even buy! It would be great it some of these 3 year extended warranty protection just said 'if it starts acting up or clunking in any way we'll give you a new one' but I'm not so sure they'll even acknowledge the thunking key issue at all. Guess i should call and ask but since the warranty company is a third party hard to say if customer service could tell you.

So yea TyronB, that's where I'm at as well. For the $425 compared to $960 for the P155, the PX130 is tempting to consider seriously but you're right that if in 6 months you wish you hadn't bought it and end up spending the $1000 on top of that...and I have to admit I've done this before. ---also i've got a cheaper (no weighted keys, 76 keys, one of the first of yamahas grand piano sound keyboard DGX300) and so i figured it was time to get a decent weighted 88 key DP; but i like the main grand piano sound on it so if the casio was not an improvement on that (not saying it's not but i'm going to go try and compare today) I'd feel like I was taking at least one step back.

One more thing that's on my mind is something that someone said i think on pg 2 here but that everyone after tended to ignore which was that on the 130/330 the felt was perhaps thicker or another piece stuck in the back supposedly to help the thunking issue but that then the response seemed a bit mushy (sorry i'm misquoting) which was not their experience with the 120 albeit at the expense or it perhaps developing the thunking sound.

Limavady:
The first time I played a PX-130 it was next to a Yamaha P-155. The action of the Casio felt stiffer than the P-155. Ultimately this is a personal decision and one that someone has to decide for themselves. You will probably find your fingers get tired after playing the Casio for extended periods of time. It's a matter of getting used to it and building up strength in your fingers.

Casio has put a strip of felt on the back of the keybed on the 130/330. The prior models 120/320 did not have this nor do any of the older Casio stage pianos in the PX line. This is no doubt to address the noisy keys issue that develops with many of their pianos. I'm sure Casio has received plenty of feedback through their website on this issue. Whether this cures the issue or not only time will tell. This should help as long as their isn't any defects with the keybeds themselves.

galaxy4t, It was Geoffk's post on pg. 2 that i was thinking of....he said the keyboard felt syrupy and had a sluggish feel to it and that the 120 next to it did not have this feel; so i'd have to guess it may well be the extra felt that's doing this. I'm not trying to bash the casio and i'd still like to consider it and of course the price right now is a big pull but i'm trying to consider all these things together...like you had said it may be a matter of waiting and seeing if the extra felt adresses the clunking issue. ---I was really thinking 'oh go ahead and get the casio at $425 what a great price and then in a year or so upgrade to the p155 or maybe the next version of that and have the casio as a backup/ travel model' .....but now i'm thinking of just getting the P155 and if the casio holds up to people's critiques in the next several months i could always get it as an affordable travel backup then if i wanted to.

....and yikes i see someone has posted that wwbw has a 20% off and that's even thru tuesday so $400. for PX130 now!; but it won't be the extra $25. that should or will make a difference in choosing it or not.

I just got back from Guitar Center. They were sold out of the PX 330 and didn't even have a floor model, they did have the 130 on the floor and a 100, as well as the 320 and the 575.

So: I thought the 130 was a huge leap from the 100, I don't know how the 100 compares with the 120 tho. Since the 330 and the 130 have the same keyboard, I assumed the 320 and the 120 did also. Anyway the 130 seemed way better than the 320.

I noticed an improvement in touch and sound, more so in the touch.

I am unable to find any shop in EU that has PX-330 in stock. Does someone know when it will be available over here ? Closes date I've seen is 28.09 on musicstore.de and I don't want to wait that long :-)

I think that's a German store that does the demos on the link provided on this thread....Is it Musik Schmidt?? ...but maybe out of stock too?

Most that I know are in Germany. But it does not matter as long as it is in EU (shipping fee is low and delivery time is short). So far, it seems no music shop has it in Europe. Apparently Casio is flooding the market with PX-130 first as it is expected to sell better.

So the Musician's Friend sale is for 20% over $1000 and 15% under $1000, plus with the Casios they charge an extra $10 for shipping and charge for the Adapter.

Kraft will match the 15% discount and they include the adapter.

ok that's nuts....but you're right or at least MF lists the adapter and scorebook as being sold seperatly. I called MF and they don't have that adapter listed in stock. I asked why they would sell it seperatly; how am i supposed to use it without an adapter?

The weird thing is when you google the PX330 it lists a few places that have them like music123 and guitar center and it says the adapter and score book are included....Also the casio website says YES next to both the adapter and score book...so is musicians Friend going in and pulling those items out of the box? ....or do they get some different packaging that doesn't include those items? ....or what i'm hoping is that that's a misprint and that those items are included in the box.

I'm going to call casio customer service tomorrow (just missed them by a few minutes) and hope they can tell me if all boxes of these items include the...friggin' adapter! So I'll let you know what i find out.

What's the score book? Is that the owner's manual? No one mentioned that. Casio is kind of notorious for not including adapters, but I think some of the online sellers are pretty cheesy that way, it's not just MF that says the adapter isn't included...one reason I went with Kraft. I know a lot of them with Yamahas list the Surivival kit as an added bonus, when it should come with the keyboard.

I hope I sell my stinkin' Yamaha or I'm going to be stuck with 2 keyboards for a while. Not that there's anything wrong with it.

I think that $100 off on the PX 330 is very good since it just came out, the guy at Kraft sounded very unhappy and double checked the MF sale, down to finding the 5 % difference for under $1k items, and noticing they charge $10 EXTRA for a 25 lb keyboard!

I told MF I would buy from them if they threw in the adapter and took off the $10, but they wouldn't. Kraft just matched the MF price plus included the adapter.

I would have called around some more, but the sale on MF was just about over so I figure if it doesn't work out I'm only out shipping costs,and the Casio will be way easier to return than the Yamaha.

The adapter, music stand, and a very cheap pedal are included with the Privia models.

If it helps, MF is an online only subsidiary of Guitar Center, so the package would be the same as sold in Guitar Center stores.

Rich

I got my 130 from Sweetwater, talked it down to $450, which is fine if I get their service. That's $450 shipped, no tax to TN. But check out the Guitar Center companies, Music123, WoodwindBrasswind (wwbw.com), zZounds, etc. Cos they are running 20% off any one item if you call in. So. Call in. ? This is all good till the end of today I believe.

By the way, if you're like me and prefer not to use an X-stand, the CS 67 is available from Sweetwater for $99.97, no shipping fee. That's their regular price too, so no worries on fluctuations upward.

MF doesn't charge on the PX pianos for shipping i think, least it was that way this morning.

Not having an adaptor included is ridiculous. That's just sending a 25 lb. paperweight.

No i think the score book is probably the music to the 60 songs on there- there are 60 pieces on there no?

Are they notorious for not including adapters? It says on MF under the PX120 that the adapter is included but for the PX130 and PX330 it says adapter and score book sold seperately...but one question; what other places say it's not included? On the Casio site it lists adapter as an accessory and then says YES next to that as it also does with the score book. Then down at the bottom it lists Optional Accessories; Stand. ----I think and am hoping what happened is some dweeb at MF read the specs from casio and assumed the word accessories meant that they were sold seperately since casio uses the word accessory for both what is apparently included as well the optional stuff- and then typed that assumption onto their spec page.

At least i hope so.

Like Dragon says above you would think the package would be the same but this is not always the case. Costco for example will have their own packs of things bundled differently than what you might get at other places.

I think the song book is for the PX 130...seems when I was reading the specs for 130 v 330, the 330 doesn't have the built in songs, but as a trade off it has the line outs.