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#1266661 - 09/11/09 08:19 PM
The Junk we find inside
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Registered: 06/01/01
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Loc: Orlando FL
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I tuned a Baldwin R today. The lid was closed and it took about 5 minutes to clean all the stuff from on top of the lid. I removed the fall board and found on top of the keys:
A pair of drumsticks 8 pairs of chop sticks A penny 2 gummy bear chews, semi petrified A metal washer 1 1/2" diameter A full size hair brush 4 pencils 3 pens
All dropped in there since the last tuning (Nov 2006)
Hee Hee
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#1266667 - 09/11/09 08:26 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Bob]
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WHAT?
HAIRBRUSH?
I really wish there was a photo to go with this.
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#1266679 - 09/11/09 08:52 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: lvp]
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Lol. I'd rather find drumsticks and a hair brush. I get the weird stuff like used condoms, petrified candy, and cigar stubs.
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#1266687 - 09/11/09 09:03 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: curry]
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Registered: 04/20/09
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I had one case where I actually made money on a cell phone. The 16 year old daughter dropped her cell behind the fallboard of a grand, and was having DT's each time it rang. I went out the next morning and they also wanted a tuning since I was there.
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#1266723 - 09/11/09 10:31 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Horowitzian]
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curry- Do you tune a lot of hotel lobby pianos in Vegas or something? Oh wait, you work in Jersey. Uhm....big wedding venues then? University practice rooms? I mean, I found that stuff as a chamber maid, but how is all that getting into pianos?? I'll never forget the only Long Island wedding I went to. The photographer had the 'voluptuous' bride climb onto this grand for photos. WHAT? I mean, how could this seem like a good idea? But they did it like it was totally natural, just another standard on their shot list. Here's an example of this tacky trend. Oh well, at least it's a Yamaha 
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#1266726 - 09/11/09 10:33 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Horowitzian]
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Registered: 03/30/09
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Loc: Ohio, US
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The first time I opened up the bottom of my upright I found skeletal remains 
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#1266750 - 09/11/09 10:58 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Little_Blue_Engine]
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Registered: 05/06/07
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I got a tuning out of a lost Blackberry, same as Dan, lol. And found a pair of mouse skeletons atop a nest of bridle tape material.
Bob, how did the piano even play?
Edited by Dave Stahl (09/11/09 10:58 PM)
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#1266757 - 09/11/09 11:08 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Bob]
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Melted candy canes, dropped inside the top of an upright (probably by kids at Christmas), melted across about an octave of keys.
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#1266805 - 09/12/09 12:49 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: GardeningPianolady]
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Registered: 02/05/05
Posts: 1135
Loc: SW Missouri
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Set of diamond wedding rings. Microphone. Diaper, (used) I got a picture of a half completed puzzle laid across the plate of a new SS L, babinga. Safe puzzle storage at 45K.
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#1266891 - 09/12/09 05:57 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
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#1266940 - 09/12/09 09:11 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Were the drumsticks still fresh?
... ahem ...
... I once found a paper sack filled with ... uh ... adult videos. The customer was entertaining her mother and a friend, so I discreetly called her aside to tell her what I just found. She immediately shared this information with her companions and the three women shrieked with excitement over the find.
I was the only one embarrassed by the episode.
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#1266969 - 09/12/09 10:21 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Randy Karasik]
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Loc: San Jose, CA
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"She immediately shared this information with her companions and the three women shrieked with excitement over the find."
The best story yet.
What goes on in these places?
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#1266986 - 09/12/09 10:50 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Loc: Redwood City, California
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The Titanic, Monica's dress and Queen Victoria's bloomers.
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#1267018 - 09/12/09 11:41 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Sam Casey]
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I got a picture of a half completed puzzle laid across the plate of a new SS L, babinga. Safe puzzle storage at 45K. [/quote]
Post! Post!
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#1267273 - 09/12/09 09:22 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: lvp]
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A complete chicken carcass on top of the beam under a recent Steinway B. I assumed the family cat left it there.
A relatively fresh, large, dead rat on top of the keys behind the fallboard of a recent Yamaha C3. (That was a pants peeer!)
Deck of nudie playing cards inside an old Knabe.
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#1267275 - 09/12/09 09:24 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Marty Flinn]
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Oh, man Marty!!!! That's GROSS.  They ought to feature piano techs on Dirty Jobs.
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#1267304 - 09/12/09 10:46 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Horowitzian]
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Registered: 02/05/05
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Loc: SW Missouri
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Was chasing a rattle on a old grand and as I climbed under and started feeling around the posts came up with a plastic bag stuffed with, ah, "oregano."
Found dog food nuggets under the keys of an old spinet that were lined up in rows, 6, 5, 6, 5 across the length of the key bed. Pulled out the keys and showed the owner and he said, "why, that's old Rex's dog food. He's been dead for YEARS."
Will post the puzzle pic tomorrow.
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#1267554 - 09/13/09 03:01 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Sam Casey]
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I will never forget the time I opened a piano and found a small jewlery repair envelope. I opened it and there was a diamond solitare inside. I called the lady into the room and said "I found your ring inside" and handed it to her. It was ovbious from her expression that this was the first time she had seen the ring..Somebody had some explaining to do when he got home that night, assuming she waited for him to speak.
Edited by Greg Seagraves (09/13/09 03:02 PM)
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#1267633 - 09/13/09 05:21 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Bob]
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Worst thing I ever found was a pair of woman's panties behind the fallboard of a 6 month old grand piano. The lady of the house was FURIOUS! "THOSE AREN'T MINE!" are the words I remembered!
I tuned quickly and left! I'm glad I wasn't her husband!
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#1267719 - 09/13/09 07:22 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Was chasing a rattle on a old grand and as I climbed under and started feeling around the posts came up with a plastic bag stuffed with, ah, "oregano."
[...] So what was the owner's reaction?
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#1267806 - 09/13/09 09:39 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Horowitzian]
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Registered: 10/22/06
Posts: 1119
Loc: Maine
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I've seen people roll up "oregano" and smoke it.
I opened up an old upright once and two jumbo sized bags of stale potato chips fell out, but the all time winner in an old Chickering grand behind the damper wires was a 6 foot Python ... very much alive!
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#1267807 - 09/13/09 09:42 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Larry Buck]
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Registered: 02/28/09
Posts: 2393
Loc: Beautiful San Diego, CA
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My most interesting find was $40,000 in gold coins stored all over the insides of an old spinet.
I was hired to tune the piano, it wasn't playing well, so I opened it up.
It was an amazing sight and I was stunned.
According to the family, "Grampa's" collection had been missing for 20 years.
I know what you are all thinking ....
No, no tip.
No tip? No way! Those cheap ...!!
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#1267896 - 09/14/09 01:30 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: eweiss]
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Loc: SW Missouri
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When the oregeno owner saw me dive under the piano after the buzz he got REAL nervous and when I pulled it out he looked like I just convicted him to Alcatraz. I suggested he find other storage. The 45K Steinway puzzle storage box: 
Edited by Sam Casey (09/14/09 01:33 AM)
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#1267897 - 09/14/09 01:37 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Registered: 02/05/05
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Loc: SW Missouri
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Found 2 bras in a Baptist Church choir room Acro. Never found live snakes but a snake skin about 4 foot long.
Found jewel boxes with earings and necklace in the bottom of a Lowery console. Old lady was hiding them from her kids.
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#1267967 - 09/14/09 08:49 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Hehehehe, I suppose he thought you were going to turn him in. That's too funny that he imagined that under the piano would be a foolproof hiding place for "oregano". Were they trying to dampen the sound? 
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#1268020 - 09/14/09 11:13 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Horowitzian]
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Loc: Vermont
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Now I want to take apart my piano and see what the last owner might have lost in there...before an errant thong pops up!
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#1268335 - 09/14/09 08:35 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: lvp]
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I found $1.65 in change between the keyfronts and keyslip on a spinet once -- the customer had noticed that the keyslip was warping and binding the keys, so she was putting in the coins as wedges -- but Larry's story has me all beat for dollar value. And some of the other stories make me grateful for my quiet life!
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#1269163 - 09/16/09 08:34 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: bellspiano]
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Registered: 11/07/07
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Loc: Grand Rapids Michigan
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I won't tell you the worst thing I found in a piano but, suffice it to say, it was not a very pretty site and it was not an animal.
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#1269505 - 09/16/09 06:45 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Larry Buck]
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This is so funny!
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#1269537 - 09/16/09 07:55 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: lvp]
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Registered: 06/28/07
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Loc: Atlanta, GA
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Yikes! But - reading these - I wonder, what's the ratio of gold coins/jewelry to dead animals/unmentionables ? It makes me wonder if someone should be collecting all those free Craigslist pianos, pulling them apart, and profiting from years of diamonds and cold coins being hidden, dropped, or otherwise lost inside  ?!
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#1269554 - 09/16/09 08:22 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Larry Buck]
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Registered: 03/07/05
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Loc: Kalamazoo Michigan
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Yeah...I found "oregano" once in a piano owned by a college professor...this spice also featured a small pipe in the bag...behind the knee board.
"That must be my kids'stuff!" he said.
Yeah right...you're a college professor with a ponytail. I got a big laugh...this stuff was ages old...so covered in dust that there was no way to tell what it was except to.....
NO! I didn't! But, we did get a good laugh...
RPD
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#1269603 - 09/16/09 09:48 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: RPD]
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Years ago I was in a 3rd floor apartment on a winter night about to tune a old grand for two single girls. Half the keys were stuck and I could tell it was junk. Pulled the fall and there were forks, spoons, pencils, paper, cards, nail files, bobby pins, just tons of garbage. One girl made a terrible embarassed fuss gathered everything from me, went to the window threw the armload into the street, 3 floors below! Not mine to reason why...
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#1269612 - 09/16/09 10:03 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Sam Casey]
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' This has stumped me on numerous occasions - I've opened up a piano, and found a piano action & keys inside..... where do they come from?  !!!
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#1269619 - 09/16/09 10:12 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Years ago I was in a 3rd floor apartment on a winter night about to tune a old grand for two single girls. Half the keys were stuck and I could tell it was junk. Pulled the fall and there were forks, spoons, pencils, paper, cards, nail files, bobby pins, just tons of garbage. One girl made a terrible embarassed fuss gathered everything from me, went to the window threw the armload into the street, 3 floors below! Not mine to reason why... I imagine she was the guilty party that had heard some versions of this over the months or years: "Oh my god, did you leave your ___________ on the piano again? Do you realize how much that thing costs? Seriously, if you do that again, like, I am going to be, like, so totally pi**ed" OR "Do you have my hairpin/chopstick/barrette/fork/jigsaw puzzle nearing completion?" Of course, the answer was always a version of "No, It wasn't me!" or "I don't have it" You nearly outed her!
Edited by lvp (09/16/09 10:13 PM)
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#1269733 - 09/17/09 03:52 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Bob]
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once i went to do a tuning job for an elderly widow. as always, she was "amazed" by how easily her piano came apart.. especially as i was taking the keys out to vacuum the key bed. anyways, there was a note in there and she excitedly opened it to find it a note written by her deceased husband to his lover!!
yes.. things became a little awkward
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#1269760 - 09/17/09 07:02 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: jpscoey]
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' This has stumped me on numerous occasions - I've opened up a piano, and found a piano action & keys inside..... where do they come from?  !!! A little OT, but... I used to enjoy the look on new crewmembers faces, when coming onboard a munitions ship, and I would mention that there was a bomb on board... quite a few, actually.
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#1269790 - 09/17/09 08:50 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Jerry Groot RPT]
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I won't tell you the worst thing I found in a piano but, suffice it to say, it was not a very pretty site and it was not an animal. Aw c'mon, Jerry. Don't tease us.
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#1269802 - 09/17/09 09:16 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Randy Karasik]
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Ditto!
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#1269848 - 09/17/09 10:50 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Scooters]
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"once i went to do a tuning job for an elderly widow. as always, she was "amazed" by how easily her piano came apart.. especially as i was taking the keys out to vacuum the key bed. anyways, there was a note in there and she excitedly opened it to find it a note written by her deceased husband to his lover!!"
There's a country music song in this... or an aria for an opera buffa. Or Steely Dan could have done something with it.
Edited by Jeff Clef (09/17/09 11:08 AM)
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#1270050 - 09/17/09 04:30 PM
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[Re: piqué]
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OK, you asked for it. It was, hmm, how shall I phrase this? A woman's um, USED ummm, well, it was a certain item that someone stuffed between the keybed and bottom panel? Not under pants either. WORSE! They fell down below and didn't smell pretty. Actually, there were several of these in there.... Well??? You asked!!!!! Now you wished you hadn't! And, NO I did NOT touch them! I showed them to the client and let THEM remove them! Talk about an embarrassed client?
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#1270076 - 09/17/09 05:39 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Jerry Groot RPT]
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OK, you asked for it. It was, hmm, how shall I phrase this? A woman's um, USED ummm, well, it was a certain item that someone stuffed between the keybed and bottom panel? Not under pants either. WORSE! They fell down below and didn't smell pretty. Actually, there were several of these in there.... Well??? You asked!!!!! Now you wished you hadn't! And, NO I did NOT touch them! I showed them to the client and let THEM remove them! Talk about an embarrassed client? Eeeeewwww. 
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#1270077 - 09/17/09 05:39 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Larry Buck]
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Couple of years ago,
I received a call, a clients new Yamaha grand ceased to play at all.
None of the keys worked, pedals didn't work, they were confused and concerned.
I opened up the action area to find it completely filled with dog food.
A quick inspection of the dog food bag revealed it was empty.
That was one busy mouse .... They need a cat...
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#1270079 - 09/17/09 05:43 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Larry Buck]
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Jerry,
Do you think the mice put them there? rotfl
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#1270082 - 09/17/09 05:46 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: piqué]
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God only knows!!! But, I pity the stupidy of the mice if they did!
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#1270186 - 09/17/09 09:13 PM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Jerry Groot RPT]
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Loc: SW Missouri
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Mice are incredibly versatile and determined. Every tuner has a share of mouse horror stories. I had one shred a white plastic trash bag on the keys of a Steinway upright for a nest. Spraying lacquer sometimes requires addition of silicone to prevent "fisheyes" from a previously highly waxed surface. It can come in little plastic caplets, one per quart cup. I had a mouse break open and eat 10-12 of them. Raw silicone.
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#1270278 - 09/18/09 12:09 AM
Re: The Junk we find inside
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Paper clips Pencils Quarters, pennies Dried plant leaves Candy Candy Wrappers Small rubber balls Broken plastic recorder/flute Playing cards Business cards Dead bugs Mice droppings Bird Feathers Cat and Dog Hair White mold Snake skin Lego Blocks Hair pins Emory boards/nail files Picture Hangers Pieces of paper Broken glass Dried food Crumbs Hammer felt
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#1270310 - 09/18/09 01:58 AM
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I'm beginning to understand why my tuner shows up wearing haz-mat suit and oxygen tank.
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#1270564 - 09/18/09 02:25 PM
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Good God Dan, those are cool. Can't believe the mice or moths or other critters didn't get them.
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#1270584 - 09/18/09 02:53 PM
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Those are cool! Real keepers! They survived because Northern mice don't know how to read. 
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#1270749 - 09/18/09 07:49 PM
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Years ago I was called to tune a rather nice Chickering grand. The center section of the action didn't work and it turned out the culprit was most of a carton of blueberry yogurt that had been spilled in the action. Everything visible from the top had been meticulously cleaned by the young man who had spilled it. What he hadn't counted on was the effect on the action of a month or so of yogurt absorbtion.
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#1270770 - 09/18/09 08:29 PM
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I commend you Dan that you are willing to contact the owner of the piano regarding the contents inside. I might do likewise. But, on the flip side, it's no different really, than buying a house and finding something left behind in it. You did acquire the piano legally including all of its contents. Just another twist to consider.
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#1270979 - 09/19/09 10:50 AM
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Ladies and Gentlemen of the Tech Forum:
This is my new favorite PW thread. (Jeff Clef turned me onto this)
Many thanks for all of these stories—exactly the kind of thing I love!
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#1271267 - 09/19/09 07:59 PM
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Well, good for you Dan. That's wonderful!
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#1271296 - 09/19/09 08:57 PM
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No reward, Dan?
'Bummer!
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#1271299 - 09/19/09 09:01 PM
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'Tuned a couple of old uprights in a Quaker Meeting House where the complaint was that one of them didn't work. Sure enough, the keys wouldn't go down at all. When I removed the keys all the space under them was packed full of crayon pieces. I filled two gallon jars with the pieces of crayon. That was one busy church mouse!
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#1271302 - 09/19/09 09:04 PM
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Piano Girl,
Technicians lead very interesting lives as you can see.
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#1271488 - 09/20/09 10:35 AM
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Obviously you do lead very interesting lives!
One day you'll open up a piano and find ME inside. Although I've been known to sleep under the piano, and have had several occasions to be on top of the piano (don't ask), I've yet to be inside a piano. On the other hand, when I'm playing a beautiful instrument that has been tweaked and tuned by a talented technician, I really do feel like I'm inside.
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#1271498 - 09/20/09 11:10 AM
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I can't imagine popping the bottom board of an old upright and have a girl burst out. Talk about a heart attack. Tuner's batcherlor party? Can we keep what we find? Clad in a "G" string? (groan..) Keep the mice out anyway.
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#1271535 - 09/20/09 12:06 PM
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Wow - how cool! Thanks for posting the pics!
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#1271598 - 09/20/09 01:57 PM
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This thread is going to keep me awake all night, thinking about short story ideas!
Sam, I'm no stranger to the G-string, but that was in another lifetime.
Silverwood, those magazine photos are amazing. YEOW!
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#1271649 - 09/20/09 03:58 PM
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Hey Robin,
Good to see you on here! All of you other techs should read PIANO GIRL if you haven't already. A really enjoyable book!
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#1291553 - 10/21/09 09:43 PM
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I have a friend that bought a antique english upright piano from the 1800s,from a estate sale in New Orleans. She wanted me to come and take a look at it. When I opened the bottom door I found a violin case, with a violin inside it laying against the lower bass of the harp. Looks like it had been hidden in there for sometime. That was the coolest thing I ever found in a piano. Mostly its dust, cobwebs, dead spiders and live ones sometimes or just small pieces and junk.
Thanks for sharing all the stories, very interesting to say the least lol, things you find in places you never expect.
J
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#1291801 - 10/22/09 11:48 AM
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"When I opened the bottom door I found a violin case..."
Maybe it was stashed away before Louisiana exempted musicians' instruments from seizure and sale of bankruptcy assets.... believe it or not, there was a thread about it the other day. Or someone shot the piano player. Fiddler carried off by fever or burned up when the Opera House caught fire; who knows, there could be all kinds of stories.
You would think New Orleans would be very unkind to pianos, but I know I've played some there. Some pretty old ones, too--- but not as old as that one.
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#1291965 - 10/22/09 04:37 PM
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What kind of violin was it? I wonder if it had any value to it?
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#1291992 - 10/22/09 05:19 PM
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The violin starts the thread drift to talking about "attic Strads". When you work in a music store, they come in clutching this find from the barn loft, wanting an appraisal. The paper tag inside indicates it to be worth millions...
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#1292137 - 10/22/09 09:56 PM
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I've probably told this before...
A woman called me to inspect and tune her grandmother's old Chickering upright, if it was tunable. I never heard such an awful sound as I played the bass notes. Before opening up the bottom panel, I was thinking the bass bridge had fallen apart...or something like that.
Turns out it was an old broken dining room chair, stuffed into the bottom of the piano...along with a whole bunch of books.
Removing all this really didn't help the sound much, and it didn't make the piano tunable, either.
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#1292430 - 10/23/09 01:20 PM
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When I was about 12, I went with my dad to a school (speaking of mice stories). When he went to push down some keys, they stayed put. When he removed them, he found a huge mouse nest that was preventing the keys from going down. We could hear a mouse scurrying around inside under the keys. As dad removed one handful of keys at a time, the mouse would scurry to the next batch of keys all the way up to high C. Dad grabbed a broom and got ready. When he removed the last key, the mouse took off running down the side of the piano with dad right behind him smacking at him with the broom and me standing there laughing my fool head off watching him chase this mouse all over the class room and back. The side door that lead outside of the building had been propped part way open. Finally, the mouse flew through it with dad right behind him whipping away!
After a few minutes, dad came in all winded. I said, well? Did you get him? YEP! I finally got him to stop running after I hit him a hundred times with the broom. And then? I squished him with my foot! That was the only mouse we found in the piano. He cleaned it all up, tuned it and ran off to the next job.
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#1292442 - 10/23/09 01:37 PM
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Well, She took the violin to a music shop in town and found out it is a 18th century German Stainer? If that is the correct spelling. They said the violin will need to be restored, it has come unglued in places, but they said in restored condition would be worth around 4 to 5 thousand. The piano came from a old estate in the French quarter that a older couple had. The husband had passed a few years ago and the wife was moving to a retirement home. My friend contacted the daughter of the couple about the violin, and she apparently had no idea about it, she said the piano was brought over from England when her parents moved to Louisiana 45 years ago. She said no one really played the piano but her mother during the holidays. So theyy are uncertain about why it was in there?
My grandfather use to tune pianos before world war 2, and during the war he said he picked up several violins while in germany as a U.S. soldier in abandoned houses that were looted. Said that pianos or any musical instruments were destroyed so american troops would not take them or play them. Using the butt of a rifle to break the hammer off of the action of smash the keyboard. So that is what i gather, that it might have been hidden for a certain reason years ago during that time maybe.
thanks J
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#1292549 - 10/23/09 04:18 PM
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While working for Steinway I was tuning a piano in an apartment in Manhattan. The client said to me, "Look under the piano and see if my husband hid anything under there." She was referring to the beams under the soundboard. Sure enough, I found a wad of cash with a twenty on the top and a box of jewelry. She was thrilled. Another time, while out on my own, I found postage stamps from the 1950s behind the fallboard of a Steinway S. Also found a $100 bill one time when the customer wasn't home. I left her the bill and a note: "Didn't think you were going to MAKE money from my visit!" Another time, Dr. Robert Pace called me and I took my good friend, Ralph Bisceglie up to Dr. Pace's house to check out a problem with the keys. Dr. Pace was away for a week and came back to keys not working. Turns out, while he was gone, some squirrels got into the piano and feasted on the keys!
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#1292744 - 10/24/09 12:28 AM
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Very interesting pianohead. Thanks for that information. I did not know they did that to their instruments.
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#1292746 - 10/24/09 12:40 AM
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In a German birdcage I found a aluminum German coin circa 1941 with a swastika on one side.
In a seldom used Baldwin L a perfectly preserved chocolate cookie, pertrified on the keys in the mid section. Grease from the cookie was soaked half thru the keys.
A pile of candied pecans 3 inches deep stacked on the extreme treble keys of a Gulbransen console, hauled in overnight by mice.
The wax of a large candle that dripped between low A and the keyblock of an upright and pooled under the keys on the bed. Customer always wondered how the candle mysteriously disappeared.
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#1292765 - 10/24/09 01:39 AM
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I agree with the earlier comment that this is the funniest thread I've ever read.
I'm not a tuner, but I am one of those crazy people who actually used to put things in my piano. During the last big recession during the early 80's inflation was out of control and I was scared the banks were going to go under so I took my life savings and bought gold Kruger Rands and silver bars and hid them in the bottom of my old upright piano. During the time that I left them in there the price of gold and siver tripled! Too bad I was still a student and my life savings didn't amount to much.
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#1292769 - 10/24/09 01:55 AM
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Did you sell them before the value of the metal crashed again?
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#1292830 - 10/24/09 08:50 AM
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During the last big recession during the early 80's inflation was out of control and I was scared the banks were going to go under so I took my life savings and bought gold Kruger Rands and silver bars and hid them in the bottom of my old upright piano. During the time that I left them in there the price of gold and siver tripled! Too bad I was still a student and my life savings didn't amount to much. That was back when the Hunt brothers tried to buy all the silver on the market. They ran out of their own money and then borrowed all they could lay their hands on. Interesting story - if anyone is interested just do a google on it. It was due to their crazy buying that the market went so high. Ken
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#1293821 - 10/26/09 07:12 AM
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When the oregeno owner saw me dive under the piano after the buzz he got REAL nervous I'm not a tuner, so I'm not up on all your fancy technical terms. Are you saying that a bag of "oregano" gave the piano a buzz? Who knew. Maybe that's why you find bags of snack food in there too.
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#1293905 - 10/26/09 10:15 AM
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Dan, that was an awesome find. I love those older papers that had the hand drawn stuff well before photoshop came around. In the late 60's my parents bought a piano for me to do my playing on, an older Lesage upright. When I was around 10 y/o I discovered how to remove the knee board and went exploring inside. I found several large bundled packages containing multiple issues of both Life and Time magazines (mint condition), all issues on the Kennedy assassination dated between 1964-66. I put these away with my old hockey cards in the attic and they are still there. Although I haven't checked, they are probably worth something by now if I were to sell them. I also found an 1877 American silver dollar in a customers' piano which he later told me was only worth about 10 bucks, he did mention that if it would have had certain letter stamped on it designating a certain minting location, it would have been worth much more.
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#1298868 - 11/03/09 12:20 PM
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Yes During WW2 I am sure many a fine German pianos were destroyed because they didnt want Americans to play them or take them. So they made them worthless, or destroyed them to the point of not being able to fix them. There were some that werent destroyed that he saw. In one house he saw a Large Bluthner grand that the top was open and a violin was inside on the strings, which he took. It had a alligator case that went to it. When he sent it home, it never made it to the US, someone stole it. So was like easy come easy go I guess since he stole it first. Also in China the revolution during the 50s they destroyed lots of musical instrument. (Hint, watch the movie the Red Violin) They didnt want the Western world in there country anymore or in their culture, thus the buring and destruction of any western musical instruments. So much history with music.
Also I tuned a old upright piano that use to be a player, and it had quaters from the 1940s in it. Maybe from when it was a coin operated instrument back then?
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#1298877 - 11/03/09 12:37 PM
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Used to be a piano teaching method to place coins on the back of the hands to insure level hand postion. As a result, coins in the keybed.
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#1298878 - 11/03/09 12:37 PM
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During the last big recession during the early 80's inflation was out of control and I was scared the banks were going to go under so I took my life savings and bought gold Kruger Rands and silver bars and hid them in the bottom of my old upright piano. During the time that I left them in there the price of gold and siver tripled! Too bad I was still a student and my life savings didn't amount to much. That was back when the Hunt brothers tried to buy all the silver on the market. They ran out of their own money and then borrowed all they could lay their hands on. Interesting story - if anyone is interested just do a google on it. It was due to their crazy buying that the market went so high. Ken And the Hunt brothers would've succeeded, too, if the Feds hadn't gotten nervous and passed legislation preventing them from cornering the market. Those were wild and woolly days indeed in the rare coin business. My coin dealer hubby waxes nostalgic about how he'd have a line of customers a block long outside his office door every day to sell silverware etc. He'd buy it all and then at the end of the day ship it via an armored car to melt it down. The market these days is looking pretty interesting, too. Hubby's betting on gold hitting $2000 an ounce within five years. Let's just say he's buying and not selling his own position at this time.
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#1309155 - 11/20/09 11:42 AM
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Looked at a antique, 1800s square grand piano at our city community building that is now used as a hall table. the piano was used there years ago in the 1930s I am sure, when the building was built. It needs a lot of work, key tops missing, broken music stand, but when I opened it all up, It had multi colored glitter all under the strings. The piano hasnt been used in many years. But never have seen glitter in a piano before.... wonder what caused that LOL!
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#1340458 - 01/04/10 11:14 AM
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I don't know if there are any rules against bumping a somewhat older thread, but I just found this one, and it's amazing. I think I know where Amelia Earhart might be hiding.
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