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#12732 - 01/30/09 05:08 PM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
Piano*Dad Offline
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Registered: 04/12/05
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(one of the most entertaining was also the nastiest... stephen - boy was he funny.. very smart)
I remember some nasty discussions ABOUT him, but do not recall crossing paths. What was his actual avatar name?
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#12733 - 01/30/09 05:42 PM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
apple* Offline
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i can't remember.. Stephen was one of his names.. he kept resurfacing.. he was pretty mean.
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#12734 - 01/30/09 10:48 PM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
Diane... Offline
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Registered: 11/16/06
Posts: 2547
Loc: Western Canada
 Quote:
Originally posted by Ken Knapp:
As most of you know we had a recent incident with a publicly outed sock puppet.

Two members have been banned as of today due to the use of sock puppets. They are:
Pianomadam, using the sock of cklavier, and TheFakeLarryFine, using the sock of threebees.

Thank you everyone for your patience.
Ken [/b]
Always thought Pianomadam was a cross-dresser cause she wears socks and not nylons! \:D And FakeLarry doesn't look very good with his pants down!

Anyways, thanks Ken for all you do! I am throwing kisses your way! Sending some for Chris who caught Pianomadam! That was damn funny! I still laugh about that! Anyways, you deserve more!

Luv ya lots!
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#12735 - 01/31/09 12:29 AM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
Scherzophrenic Offline
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Registered: 01/09/09
Posts: 12
Loc: Lancaster PA USA
How and why would people be mean on a music forum...a piano forum no less! Violinists, maybe, and French Horn players, well, of course, they being loners and all, but pianists? Oh. Wait. Keith Jarrett wasn't ever mean, was he? I know that Billy Joel, *gasp!* tipped his piano over in a fit of rage while performing in Moscow, but having a sockpuppet that's mean....on a piano forum....unheard of!

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#12736 - 01/31/09 02:07 AM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
U S A P T Offline
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Registered: 10/20/06
Posts: 1645
Loc: An Indiana University
Scherzophrenic (love the name):

Music people tend to be very passionate about their work and about life in general. Most of the people who post have gregarious personalities. Add varying levels of experience, classical purists vs. dilletantes, sightreaders against ear-players, brand loyalty, preconceived notions, the occasional seller trying to nab a customer and then mix well with people who are simply looking for a piece of furniture to add trophy value to their living room and you can get a volatile mix.

You wouldn't believe how many people in here (and there ARE real people behind many of these avatars) have gotten into knock-down drag-out fights and helped each other up all bloodied and bruised like a biker bar at 1:59 a.m. and then met at a piano party and act like old friends.

Kind of like politicians in D.C.

Very interesting bunch. Stick around and you'll see.
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#12737 - 02/02/09 02:19 PM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
mikhailoh Offline
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Registered: 07/20/04
Posts: 4287
Loc: Cincinnati
 Quote:
Originally posted by Bob Newbie:
The only sock puppet I like is Lamb Chop(Shari Lewis) \:D \:D [/b]
I had a Lamb Chop and a Charlie Horse puppet as a kid. (yeah, I'm dating myself, I know)
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He is so solemn, detached and uninvolved he makes Mr. Spock look like Hunter S. Thompson at closing time.'

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#12738 - 02/02/09 02:22 PM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
mikhailoh Offline
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Registered: 07/20/04
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Loc: Cincinnati
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Originally posted by apple*:
it is extraordinarily tedious to search by address.. one can spot them tho. [/b]
Give me the data in a text format and I'll write a program to sort out the duplicates in about 20 minutes.
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He is so solemn, detached and uninvolved he makes Mr. Spock look like Hunter S. Thompson at closing time.'

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#12739 - 02/02/09 02:25 PM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
mikhailoh Offline
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Registered: 07/20/04
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Loc: Cincinnati
 Quote:
Originally posted by AJB:
Gary - I asked this question and Ken said that the router we use at home/work is the IP address that is tracked rather than the dynamic one on the computer itself.

My router and ISP link provides the facility for me to change the router IP address at will (not that I do - no need), so I am not sure how effective the tracking system is. [/b]
Yes, but you'd have to change it and change it back as you used the sockie. I doubt many people can do that.

I also don't think we want to do a retroactive witchhunt resulting in a purge. But ot might be nice for Ken to know who to keep an eye on.
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He is so solemn, detached and uninvolved he makes Mr. Spock look like Hunter S. Thompson at closing time.'

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#12740 - 02/02/09 06:41 PM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
scharlott Offline
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Registered: 11/23/08
Posts: 89
Loc: Fort Thomas, Kentucky
Anyone interested in becoming a pantyhose puppet? \:D

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#12741 - 02/02/09 11:42 PM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
Alex Hernandez Offline
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Registered: 01/22/02
Posts: 1944
Loc: Sacramento
This is a great policy change for PW. I hope the powers that be aggressively go back and ban those who you use sockpuppets to prop up undeserving brands and demean venerable names in the industry. This would clear up a lot of confusion.
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#12742 - 02/03/09 02:47 AM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
stanw909 Offline
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Registered: 09/04/08
Posts: 195
Loc: SoCal
Would the Tier 1 posters use silk stocking puppets to support their agenda?

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#12743 - 02/03/09 09:17 AM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
apple* Offline
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Posts: 19248
Loc: Kansas
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Originally posted by stanw909:
Would the Tier 1 posters use silk stockings puppets to support their agenda? [/b]
maybe

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#12744 - 02/03/09 10:12 AM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
Steve Cohen Offline
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Registered: 05/26/01
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Loc: Maryland/DC
Wow Apple!

That's some sexy piano. Bechsteins always turned me on!
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#12745 - 02/03/09 01:03 PM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
sophial Offline
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Registered: 04/11/05
Posts: 2978
Loc: US
looks like a scene from "Cabaret"!!

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#12746 - 02/03/09 02:28 PM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
theJourney Offline
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Registered: 02/22/07
Posts: 3572
Loc: Amsterdam
 Quote:
Originally posted by Steve Cohen:
Wow Apple!

That's some sexy piano. Bechsteins always turned me on! [/b]
Isn't your relationship with Bechstein more "pay for play", Steve? \:o

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#12747 - 02/03/09 03:56 PM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
Steve Cohen Offline
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Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 9298
Loc: Maryland/DC
 Quote:
Originally posted by theJourney:
 Quote:
Originally posted by Steve Cohen:
Wow Apple!

That's some sexy piano. Bechsteins always turned me on! [/b]
Isn't your relationship with Bechstein more "pay for play", Steve? \:o [/b]
Yes. But I also know that they are one of the finest lines out there.
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#12748 - 02/03/09 04:25 PM Re: Socks and banning. (Beware Sock Puppet Masters)
kenny Offline
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Registered: 05/29/01
Posts: 7051
I forgot my password years ago and reregistered as samekenny1 or something.
It happens.
But then some Bozo registered as samekenny2 or something and pretended to be me.
That was annoying.

But when an anonymous person is obviously causing trouble or screaming their head off about brand X that's different.

Bad sockieism is hard to define but we all know when we see it.

Good call Ken.

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