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#1267522 - 09/13/09 02:09 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: kalpazan]
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Nilalette:
My PX-575 has three demo songs loaded that can be played along with, although, there doesn't seem to be a way to lower the volume when the demo songs play as I can with accompaniment which has a setting for volume. You can however, play along, it's just the demo song is louder than whatever voice you are trying to play along with.


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#1267617 - 09/13/09 04:54 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: galaxy4t]
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Thanks for the link to the manual.

Mike Martin, the marketing director for Casio, posts on the musicplayer.com web site.

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#1267892 - 09/14/09 01:07 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Nikalette]
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New video from Musik-Schmidt for the PX 330 smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjpX9Etxwtc

Short translation: Piano Sounds=super, Keyboard=super, case, notesholder & pedal= poor quality, same for sounds except piano, e-piano and bass

If you know other reviews from Olaf, you can see he enjoys playing the PX-330. He said overall "Great sounds, polyphony & keyboard, and thats the most important thing if you are looking for a DP, if you are looking for other sounds than piano sounds you should probably look for a keyboard"


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#1268110 - 09/14/09 02:11 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: galaxy4t]
Nikalette Offline
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Hi guys, Mike Martin from Casio posted an answer on the "other" new PX thread that's been up for a few months, so that might be a place to post questions on features.

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#1268531 - 09/15/09 06:02 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Acoustic Dave]
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Originally Posted By: Acoustic Dave
Rec'd my PX 130 last night and have only set it up, so I can only say so far it looks great! I ended up buying the "Stage Essentials" package from Kraft Music, which includes the double-X stand, sustain pedal (to replace the cheap switch pedal that comes with the 130) and a Privia carrying case.

Just an fyi, it came with the AC adaptor, sustain switch pedal and song book with the music for the 60 songs built into the demo. The DP offers the option to cut out the left or right hand of the demo music, so I'm looking forward to learning those pieces one hand at a time!

Another piece of software I'm looking at is the Mac iLife '09 version of GarageBand which now offers downable Piano Lessons for free (looks like there are about 10 lessons in total, starting out easy and ending up with how to play the Blues!), and then for a price, you can also download lessons from artists on how to play songs they made famous (Norah Jones, Ryan Tedder of One Republic, Sara Bareilles, etc.)


How do you like the stand that came with it? I'm debating getting an X stand or the one that goes with it. And how do you like the carrying case?

When you get Garage Band would you post your reaction? I have a PC but I want to know just in case.

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#1268588 - 09/15/09 09:04 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Nikalette]
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Oops, I wanted to edit my entry but it seems I pressed the wrong thread so this is now posted on 2 threads. My apologies! I got confused because the titles of the 2 threads about the new Casios are so similar! crazy

I just came back from the mall and the Casio showroom. I'm friends with the Casio salesguy and he let me try out the new models and even gave me the only(!) brochure in the store. I was surprised they already have the new PX-730 on display and that's what I tried out. (I was expecting new models to come slowly in my country). The changes aren't drastic enough to warrant an upgrade for someone who owns the previous generation's DP, but the improvements are nice. Some highlights:

- I thought the keys felt more responsive and less sluggish. The first few weeks that I owned my PX-720, I thought the keys were somewhat sluggish, but I don't notice that anymore nowadays (I guess I adapted?).

- The heavy key weight was still there, but somehow they felt easier to press in the PX-730. I think the key return is also a tad faster.

- It has a USB port which is a feature I wish my PX-720 had.

- The first thing I noticed was that the keys vibrate. They don't in the PX-720 because the speakers are detached below the keyboard and the feeling was weird at the start. Actually I'm not sure where the speakers for the PX-730 are located.

- I thought the tone was good but nothing to rave about. I can't compare it with the older one because it was noisy at the mall. The electronic piano setting is horrible IMO.

- According to the brochure, the PX-830, Celviano AP-220, AP-420, and AP-620 are coming soon. (But they weren't in the store yet).

- The PX-830 has an interesting cover which opens up and doubles as a music rack (at least that's what it looks like from the pictures). I'd get the PX-830 just for that - the music rack runs the whole length of the piano so you can place a lot of sheet music there! I'm not a fan of the PX-720/730 music rack which looks really cool but is too short and flimsy. The PX-830's music rack seems thicker and sturdier.

- One thing I found interesting was that the Celviano AP series now come with a piano bench! Piano benches are also listed as accessories in the "Privia Optional Accessories" page. I'm definitely going to get one smile


I'm planning to get another DP for weekend and holiday practice at home and was thinking of getting a Clavinova but now I'm considering the new Casios as well. The price points and features just can't be beat! I just think I'd feel a bit weird if I had both the PX-720 and PX-730 grin Maybe I should spring for the PX-830 or a Celviano instead.


Edited by marimorimo (09/15/09 09:12 AM)
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#1268885 - 09/15/09 05:35 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: galaxy4t]
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Just got my PX330. First of all, it has two defective keys in the top octave and a half. They are halfway pressed down. How did this get out of the warehouse?

Anyway, I called Music 123 right away, but told them I wanted to try it briefly to decide if I'm going to replace it or just return it for a refund.

So, I just played it and did a side by side comparison with the YPG 635, which only has stereo sampling versus the 4 layer sampling of the PX. Through the built in speakers, the YPG is much better to my ears. It's a warmer richer sound, but doesn't have the volume of the PX. Through headphones, the PX sounds much better than on speakers, but I still slightly prefer the YPG.

Both have 2 good piano sounds. The touch on the YPG is much lighter, and it feels more graded to me, the difference in the bass weight being more noticeable. I like the high and low notes much better, while I thought the PX did a little better mid range.

As far as the rest of the sounds, the YPG is way, way better in terms of quantity and quality. It has many more voices. The PX has an organ voice and then an option for picking 3 "shades". The YPG has many organ voices, same with electric piano and all the rest.


So I'm sending back the PX. The portability is fantastic, I can easily carry the PX, the UPS guy had it tucked under one arm. It's got the outputs for audio. The set up is more convenient, with the 2 headphone jacks on the side instead of the back, and the music stand is way closer, so I could read music more easily than on the YPG.

Which is more realistic compared to an acoustic? I can't say for sure, but I think the decay is slightly more like an acoustic on the YPG and on speakers it sounds more "real." Ultimately, that's not that important to me right now.

I haven't messed with the recording capabilities. I paid $539 for the PX and $739 for the YPG, including stand and a free bench.

So for me, there aren't enough advantages to keeping the PX, since I'm not ready to be playing gigs yet. I might have kept it longer to play with it, but given the 2 broken keys, it'll go straight back.

At least I feel really good about my YPG purchase now, the only drawbacks being the heaviness at 39 lbs v. 25 lbs and the lack of "real" audio outputs.

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#1269003 - 09/15/09 09:39 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Nikalette]
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I had seen a short video demonstration (a NAMM show in the Yamaha section) of the YPG-635 when it first came out and the tech demonstrating it stated that more than half of the YPG's total wave rom was dedicated to its Grand Piano sound so I can understand that it would be a very decent sounding sample. I think it might have sounded as good or better than my Roland FP-4 piano sound -- which costs almost twice as much as the YPG. You probably can't go wrong with keeping it unless you want to pay 5 times as much for a lot of furniture (CLP, HP, etc.) without a great improvement in sound.

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#1269073 - 09/16/09 12:46 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: btcomm]
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Originally Posted By: btcomm
I had seen a short video demonstration (a NAMM show in the Yamaha section) of the YPG-635 when it first came out and the tech demonstrating it stated that more than half of the YPG's total wave rom was dedicated to its Grand Piano sound so I can understand that it would be a very decent sounding sample. I think it might have sounded as good or better than my Roland FP-4 piano sound -- which costs almost twice as much as the YPG. You probably can't go wrong with keeping it unless you want to pay 5 times as much for a lot of furniture (CLP, HP, etc.) without a great improvement in sound.


Well, I'm not interested in furniture, it was really the portability and the audio outputs I wanted, and a music stand closer to my poor eyes, which are really decorative rather than functional.

I do think the PX is a really good option, but I'm spoiled by the huge selection of voices on the YPG, I don't know how they turned out so well, You haven't played scales until you play them with choral voices, it just cracks me up. 3hearts

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#1269081 - 09/16/09 01:03 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Nikalette]
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Bummer Nikalette,
Was the box damaged at all in the area where the keys are? Maybe it happened in shipment?

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#1269112 - 09/16/09 03:28 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: galaxy4t]
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@Nikalette

I send my DGX back to get a PX 330, I miss the connectivity at the DGX and I think the volume over the speaker is for piano sounds to low. And what I've heard in vids the PX 330 also have the better Piano sound, and thats more important to me. The PX 330 should arrive within the next days, so I'm looking forward to it.

I compared DGX vs. 320 at our music store in town and in my opinion te PX320 has the better keys. They felt more realistic than the DGX. Also the key noise from th DGX was louder, a least I don't want to complaint about this, because after all I liked the keyboard from the DGX.

If I need later more sounds, I think I'll connect the PX 330 to the PC or get an expander for more sounds.


Edited by BanditHH (09/16/09 03:51 AM)
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#1269113 - 09/16/09 03:30 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Nikalette]
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Originally Posted By: Nikalette
As far as the rest of the sounds, the YPG is way, way better in terms of quantity and quality.

Bad luck about the bad keys. You've been having all kinds of piano issues. But I'm glad to know that the Yamaha YPG compares well to the Casio because I've been looking at getting one. Portability is not an issue for me.

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#1269117 - 09/16/09 03:41 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Ludwig van Bilge]
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New vid from Musik-Schmidt for the PX-330 (english)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSGEcOy2GP8&feature=sub
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#1269247 - 09/16/09 11:28 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: galaxy4t]
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No the box was fine. The keys were halfway depressed. It could have happened in shipping from some springs being knocked loose.

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#1269550 - 09/16/09 08:18 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Nikalette]
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Does the px130 have the same action/keyboard as the px330 or px730? Or even the px830 for that matter.

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#1269556 - 09/16/09 08:24 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: SnowTown]
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The PX 130 and PX 330 are the same. I don't know about the rest.

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#1269596 - 09/16/09 09:29 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Nikalette]
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As far as I know, all Casio models have the same action (and the same basic piano sample as well). I know that was true with the 120 series and I believe it's true now as well. The differences are in the case/pedals, additional voices (and features, e.g. rhythms) and speakers/amp.

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#1269748 - 09/17/09 06:07 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Geoffk]
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Nikalette,

There are no springs in the Casio Privia series, unless the action has changed considerably in the new models. Under each key is a hammer. When you push down on the key, the hammer is lifted up. When you release the key, gravity pulls the hammer down and the key is lifted back into position by this motion.
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#1269786 - 09/17/09 08:47 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: DragonPianoPlayer]
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I am looking for a cheap DP with a good touch(effect) that resembles the acoustic's (or as possible as it can be).
With this issue, would anyone compares this Casio's new series (new effect with 3 sensors) to the Yamaha's GHS, GH and GH3 ? Regardless to the sounds that they make.

Thank you


Edited by Tidal (09/17/09 08:49 AM)

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#1269806 - 09/17/09 09:33 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Geoffk]
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Originally Posted By: Geoffk
As far as I know, all Casio models have the same action (and the same basic piano sample as well). I know that was true with the 120 series and I believe it's true now as well. The differences are in the case/pedals, additional voices (and features, e.g. rhythms) and speakers/amp.


To clarify, the new PX-130, PX-330, PX-730, PX-830 all have a new keyboard action. They also have a new four layer piano sample. Also, the keys on the PX-830 will be made of a different material that will actually have some texture to it to more closely represent the feel of an ivory keyboard.

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#1269809 - 09/17/09 09:44 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Mike_Martin]
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Thanks

Actually, now I am looking at PX-130 and CP33 (I want to have P-155 but an import and a distribution to various music stores are not conducted yet).

I have played CP33 and the touch is acceptable.
For PX-130, I don't have a chance to play right now.

In my country, CP33 now costs around $1500 and PX-130 costs $830.

If the touch of PX-130 is better, that will be great and I will save money for my family. But if the Privia has an inferior touch to the Yamaha's GH, that's it.

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#1269869 - 09/17/09 11:26 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Tidal]
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I havent played a PX 130 till now, but imo you shuld also take a look to the technique specs. The PX 130 has 128 polyphonic sound, instead of 64 at the CP33.
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#1269949 - 09/17/09 01:24 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Mike_Martin]
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Originally Posted By: Mike_Martin
Originally Posted By: Geoffk
As far as I know, all Casio models have the same action (and the same basic piano sample as well). I know that was true with the 120 series and I believe it's true now as well. The differences are in the case/pedals, additional voices (and features, e.g. rhythms) and speakers/amp.


To clarify, the new PX-130, PX-330, PX-730, PX-830 all have a new keyboard action. They also have a new four layer piano sample. Also, the keys on the PX-830 will be made of a different material that will actually have some texture to it to more closely represent the feel of an ivory keyboard.

-Mike Martin
Casio America, Inc.


Thank you very much for clarifying that, Mike.

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#1269958 - 09/17/09 01:47 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: NoFingers]
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Originally Posted By: Mike_Martin

To clarify, the new PX-130, PX-330, PX-730, PX-830 all have a new keyboard action. They also have a new four layer piano sample. Also, the keys on the PX-830 will be made of a different material that will actually have some texture to it to more closely represent the feel of an ivory keyboard.

-Mike Martin
Casio America, Inc.


Thanks a lot for the info, though it leaves me confused because the brochure that I have lists it as '3 steps dynamic sample' (or something like that, I don't have the brochure at the moment). I interpreted it to mean 3 layers of piano samples, is that different? I also find it weird that the different material used for the PX-830 keys isn't cited at all in the brochure. Are the specifications different depending on the country? And will the new ivory feel keys be used for the Celviano line as well?
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#1269972 - 09/17/09 02:10 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: marimorimo]
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@marimorimo

It has 4 layer sound and 3 sensors!
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#1269979 - 09/17/09 02:23 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: BanditHH]
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Tidal,

Trying to decide which dp feels more like a piano is a very subjective thing. I think the Casio Privia models win hands down in the under $1000 (US) price range, but others people prefer other models. My first impression of the CP33 is that it had a better feel than the Privias, however, I would need to spend a lot of time playing the CP33 to really say which one I liked better. Note that I learned on an old, unregulated upright as a kid, so the heavier action of the Privia feels right to me. Someone who wants a lighter action might prefer the Yamaha touch.

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#1269982 - 09/17/09 02:31 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Tidal]
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I'm not familiar with the CP 33, but my YPG has GH action.

I didn't notice very much of a difference between the PX 330 and the YPG 635 action, but I didn't spend as much time as I would have testing them side by side because I'm returning the PX. I think it would be a matter of personal preference.

The keys are smoother on the YPG, but I think for realism I might give a slight edge to the PX.


Edited by Nikalette (09/17/09 02:32 PM)

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#1270027 - 09/17/09 03:52 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Nikalette]
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Tidal,
I recently compared the PX130 with the Yahama P155 and it's earlier in this same thread. The P-155 has GH-Graded Hammer Action, which is better than what is used in the YPG 635 if you have played one of those. The action between the P-155 and Casio PX-130 are different. I think the 130 is stiffer, but very responsive. Both DP's have a 4 level piano sample, with 128 levels of polyphony and Casio has done a nice job revamping it's grand piano sound in the 130. I think it is every bit as good as the P-155. Whether you like it or not comes down to personal choice. Be sure and bring headphones with you when you compare any digital piano as the sound is better when listening through headphones. The on board speakers are OK but not the best. By the way, Casio uses a 1/8" (like what you find on an ipod) headphone jack rather than a 1/4" jack used on the P-155. Considering what the 130 offers in terms of price and functionality, it is very nice.

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#1270044 - 09/17/09 04:25 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Nikalette]
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Originally Posted By: Nikalette
I'm not familiar with the CP 33, but my YPG has GH action.

I didn't notice very much of a difference between the PX 330 and the YPG 635 action, but I didn't spend as much time as I would have testing them side by side because I'm returning the PX. I think it would be a matter of personal preference.

The keys are smoother on the YPG, but I think for realism I might give a slight edge to the PX.


The YPG635 has the GHS action. I had the YDP213 which has GHS as well. I thought the GHS actions were way too light and just feel flat/plasticky... Does the PX330's action really feel similar? I'm under the impression that the Casio's actions are generally heavier than the GHS and the GH (aka GHE) with the GH/GHE action being noticably heavier/"better"/more reponsive than the GHS. I had experince with the YDP223 which has the GH/GHE action and that felt heavier/more realistic.

Is the keyboard action of the newer Casios (X30s) lighter than the GH/GHE?

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#1270054 - 09/17/09 04:44 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: SnowTown]
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I compared the action fom PX-320 and DGX direct and thought the PX 320 is better - so if 330 has an improvement, it is obv that the PX 330 has the better action^^
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