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#1302984 - 11/10/09 09:16 PM Re: Serious concern about removal of music library from PX-330! [Re: ChrisA]
LaoGong Offline
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Editing a MIDI file seems too much for me. However I found the link you provided is awesome! Thanks for sharing the info.

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#1304060 - 11/12/09 01:48 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: LaoGong]
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Laogong...Thanks for the reply, but I am not familiar with the PX730 so much, and the nearest Costco is about 2,000 kilometers away for me! I am in the Yukon. The PX330 is the only one that interests me of the new line of Privias. I would love to try one in person, but I am unable to.

Any owners of the PX330 willing to give a review on the other sounds (strings, flutes, harp, oboe, etc.)? Thanks.


Edited by Doolittle (11/12/09 01:52 PM)

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#1304535 - 11/13/09 03:53 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Doolittle]
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imho the other sounds are quit disappointing. All piano sounds are brilliant, also some of the e-piano sounds. But the other sounds are poor. I had before the Yamaha DGX 630 and this one had better sounds (except the piano sounds).

If you play a SMF sometime they sound like from a cheap soundcard at your PC.

Why do I still prefer the PX 330? Because I wanted to have a DP with good piano sounds and a real good keyboard and connectivity, and here is the PX 330 better! IF I want more sounds I connect the PX 330 to a PC and use VST
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#1304967 - 11/13/09 05:14 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Doolittle]
LaoGong Offline
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Yukon is a mysterious place to me. Did you see polar bears often? I wish I can have one as the pet laugh

I'm a music beginner in every sense so cannot comment the quality of the tones on px-320. But the guy who purchased my px-320 is a music professional, he said the piano and string tones are very good.

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#1305193 - 11/13/09 11:14 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: LaoGong]
Doolittle Offline
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It's majestic here all year round. Sorry, no Polar Bears in my area, but plenty of Black Bears and Grizzlies. Maybe I will have to ride a Grizzly down to an area where I can see the PX330 in person...if the salesman sees the Bear hitched up outside, maybe I will get a great deal.
I was looking at the PX320 as well for some time, then I saw the PX330. I love my Yamaha P120, but the Privias still interest me from afar.

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#1306822 - 11/16/09 07:06 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Doolittle]
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Good news: PX-730 on sale at costco.ca this week!

$650 for online order, and $600 for purchase in store.

http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx...-7-_-CasioPiano

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#1307003 - 11/17/09 03:18 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: LaoGong]
Tika Offline
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Hi, We're looking for a family piano but can't seem to get our hands on a PX 830 to try it out. Can anyone tell me if the PX 330 keyboard is the same action as the PX 830 except for the ivory feel on the 830? I can get to a store with the PX 330 and the Roland F110 to compare but no one has the PX 830 which I believe from previous reviews is the PX330 with better speakers, textured keys and the console.

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#1307009 - 11/17/09 03:34 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Tika]
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@ Tika: yes, all the Privias of the same generation have the same action. By the way, the keys on the 830 are "textured" in a way, but I wouldn't call it "ivory feel." The DPs with ivory feel keys (like some Rolands) have considerably more texture than the 830's keys. I'd describe the keys on the PX-830 and newer Casio Celvianos more as smooth, cream-colored. The main difference between them and the regular keys are the color and that they aren't as slippery (they're not glossy - more like fine matte).
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#1307026 - 11/17/09 06:04 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: marimorimo]
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Looking for a second opinion here. I'm gonna buy a new digital piano by christmas, and there are 4 models I've pointed out. The PX 130, PX 320, PX 330, PX730.

Currently leaning towards the 330. What exactly are the major differences between these models? Is the 320 almost near identical than 330, its about same prize its just that it comes with the keyboard only unlike the 330, but the 330 isn't at all places.

How about the 130, what makes the others better buys than this? Seeing as it is quite a bit cheaper than the other models.

I've tried to read a bit about them but its a bit confusing. For me the importance lies mainly in how the keys feel and being able to hook it up on the pc with midi connectivity which I know at least the 320 and 330 has.

Some slightly confusing questions, I just don't have the opportunity to try out any of them so its hard to make a decision which feels the right for me.

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#1307208 - 11/17/09 12:58 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Quagles]
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Originally Posted By: Quagles
Looking for a second opinion here. I'm gonna buy a new digital piano by christmas, and there are 4 models I've pointed out. The PX 130, PX 320, PX 330, PX730.

Currently leaning towards the 330. What exactly are the major differences between these models? Is the 320 almost near identical than 330, its about same prize its just that it comes with the keyboard only unlike the 330, but the 330 isn't at all places.

How about the 130, what makes the others better buys than this? Seeing as it is quite a bit cheaper than the other models.

I've tried to read a bit about them but its a bit confusing. For me the importance lies mainly in how the keys feel and being able to hook it up on the pc with midi connectivity which I know at least the 320 and 330 has.

Some slightly confusing questions, I just don't have the opportunity to try out any of them so its hard to make a decision which feels the right for me.


Quagles,
The PX-320 is last year's model and is the equivalent to the PX-330. The difference is in the piano sample which in the 320 is 3 layer and in the 330 is 4 layer sample. You can probably get the 320 cheaper as it is discontinued. The PX-130 is the upgrade to the PX-120. They are nearly identical although they took the Midi ports off the 130 and there also are no on board rhythms like the 120 had. The 130 has a metronome. As far as the action, the new models have the third sensor to facilitate having the keys return faster. So the major differences are in the piano samples and improved keybed action. Hope this helps.

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#1307223 - 11/17/09 01:22 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: galaxy4t]
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Other differences between the PX-320, which I own, and the PX-330:
1. there is a wheel on the left side of the PX-330 - I assume it is a Pitch bend wheel, which is good to have if you use some of the addtional sounds these models offer compare to the PX-130 - I do not use these sounds, so I don't mind not having that wheel.
2. This is subjective, but I think the PX-330 looks better, more professional stage piano like, with its bigger screen and black finish.

VL

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#1307374 - 11/17/09 06:11 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Vincent L.]
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Any owners of the PX330 willing to give a review on the other sounds (strings, flutes, harp, oboe, etc.)? Thanks.

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#1307400 - 11/17/09 07:16 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Doolittle]
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For those who ever wanted to see the inside of a PX 330.

Today I had visit from the Casio-Support, they exchanged my keyboard, a good reason to shot a photo from the open PX 330 smile

Was also funny to see the little weights at each key (sorry no photo of that).

Now my PX 330 works fine and I'm really happy with it smile




@doolittle
The only usefull sounds imho are the Piano, E-Piano, Strings, Bass and maybe the Hapsicord. The rest is from a very poor quality imho (especially GM sounds, i tried some SMF at the PX 330, they didnt sound very good frown ). The music presets are usefull if you want to be an entertainer wink


Edited by BanditHH (11/17/09 07:21 PM)
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#1307414 - 11/17/09 07:42 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: BanditHH]
Doolittle Offline
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Thanks for the heads up on the other sounds on the PX330 BanditHH...I believe that I had heard that the PX320 had great sounds, and thought that the PX330 would be better or at least the same. I have a great piano sound with my Yamaha P120 already, but had hoped for more usable sounds with the PX330. Too bad, so sad.

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#1307598 - 11/18/09 03:42 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Doolittle]
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I had the Yamaha DGX 630 before, and i think the other sounds are much bette at the DGX.

But I forget the new World Sounds, I like them, but I have nothing to compare, so I cannot tell if they are good or not, for me they sound good.

But the whole GM table is very poor, except one or two voices (Fantasy f.e.).

The GM table at the DGX was also not very good, but better than the one at a 330.
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#1311086 - 11/23/09 06:06 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: BanditHH]
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Well as far as anything that hasn't been said, I like my PX330. For those wondering it does work on Windows 7 64 bit just fine with software piano/anything else. My first one had an issue with one stuck key (A3) which released when I pulled up on the adjacent Bb, but I'm still getting a replacement.

Other than that it sounds and plays fine except for one caveat, which I hope (but doubt) is exclusive to mine also. I will paste from my other thread regarding the issue:

Using the default piano samples, if I press a key too slowly or lightly it will not sound whatsoever

I've remedied this by using software piano through my PC, going to velocity/set and calibrating the min and max to my midi controller. But without this I have to admit it's extremely annoying, because at times I like to play with a light touch and it not sounding limits expression in that regard. I think it would also make me unable to play with a soft touch between piano lessons on an acoustic, so I will always have to practice through my PC.

But at least this way no matter how softly or slowly I touch, it at least sounds at the lowest velocity. No problem if you use it with software piano, but if you plan on learning on it without be aware it may limit your expression and subliminally make your "softest" playing louder than it should/would be, if this is indeed a problem on all models.


Edited by Passion (11/23/09 06:07 PM)

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#1311127 - 11/23/09 07:42 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Passion]
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@Passion: Funny, I thought the opposite. In my experience with acoustics (I have to admit it's very little), I need significantly more force and velocity to get any sound at all. I was actually worried that practicing on my DP would make my touch too light because sound comes out even though I touch the keys lightly. I would think more force is needed on an acoustic in order for the hammers to hit the strings (t
but of course, acoustics do vary in their touch).

But anyway, I do realize that current DP technology does limit expressiveness. I probably can't achieve ppp on my PX-730, but I'm trying! XD
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#1311211 - 11/23/09 09:27 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: marimorimo]
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@marimorimo: You do have a point I suppose, in that the touch differs on all pianos, even acoustic so readjusting would be necessary regardless. My only issue is that it doesn't sound at all, even the lowest velocity level, if you play too softly or slowly. Have you tried or is it just mine? I feel it should at least play a sample at the lowest velocity no matter how softly/slowly I depress the key.


Edited by Passion (11/23/09 09:28 PM)

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#1311466 - 11/24/09 10:55 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Passion]
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I'm a newbie player and posted this on the musicplayer keyboard forums earlier after having the PX-330 for one week.

Likes
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Physical appearance and design
Price (value)
Key action
GP sounds
Asian instrument sounds (great fun, gotta learn...)
3 year warranty

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No sleep function
Hard to read panel especially in low light

There are other comments and reviews over there too.

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#1311506 - 11/24/09 12:12 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Passion]
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Originally Posted By: Passion
@marimorimo: ... My only issue is that it doesn't sound at all, even the lowest velocity level, if you play too softly or slowly. Have you tried or is it just mine? I feel it should at least play a sample at the lowest velocity no matter how softly/slowly I depress the key.


"real" acoustic grand pianos do the same thing. If you press the key slowly enough there is no sound because the hammer is not tossed onto the string.

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#1311647 - 11/24/09 04:47 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: ChrisA]
Passion Offline
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Originally Posted By: ChrisA


"real" acoustic grand pianos do the same thing. If you press the key slowly enough there is no sound because the hammer is not tossed onto the string.


Yeah you're right, I guess that makes me feel better. I just feel like the amount of force I'm exerting on the key is not low enough for it to be silent (i.e. the same amount of force on an acoustic would sound). I'm sure I'll get used to it.

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#1312094 - 11/25/09 10:59 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Passion]
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Ok so I ordered the Casio PX 320. Originally I wanted the 330, but of course to my misfortune, not a single online shop had it in. Only one place had it for sale but it would take significant time before it would even come to their storage so.

Not a single shop either had the Casio PX 730 as well, which was my 2nd option so I went for the 320. I think it actually ended up being more expensive as well, having to buy legs seperate. Oh well, been paid and all so nothing I can do :p maybe i should have just went for the 130 as well, maybe it would have been better.

Anyways what is the major differences between the 330 and 320, they don't look all that different to me but somehow I wish I could have grabbed the 330 instead. I guess ill be fine!

In short is there any really significant differences from the 320 and 330 that ill miss out on or is it just some minor annoyances? I've already sort of asked before but, I'm still slightly unsure.



Edited by Quagles (11/25/09 11:03 AM)

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#1326539 - 12/16/09 10:47 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Nikalette]
Piano Mom Too Offline
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Hi, I'm new here - found this great thread researching DPs to buy for my 10 y/o son (thank you all for participating!!!)

Decided on the Casio PX-330, and got one from Guitar Center...
Out of the box, the keys were held with the blue tape - the 5 leftmost (lowest) keys were lower than the others and would not return. One of those had no sound at all, and another one thunked loudley when it returned. So, I returned it, and got another one. On this one, the 2nd lowest "b" clinks loudly when it returns.

Are we just doubly unlucky? At this point, I am questioning the quality of Casio. I did call customer service - my rep told me they did not know of any problems with the keys. I have some doubt here, as similar key problems were noted in a number of reviews. To tell you the truth, I would have felt better about the whole thing, and Casio, if they acknowledged a problem, and told me they were fixing it.

I would appreciate any thoughts about the reputation of Casio's quality, and opinions as whether I ought to try a third one. (I am sort-of inclined to do this, as I spent weeks making this decision in the first place, and I can be patient to get what I want.)

Thanks so much!!!

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#1326562 - 12/16/09 11:13 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Piano Mom Too]
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I got a PX130 last week. Fresh out of the box, absolutely nothing is wrong.
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#1326806 - 12/16/09 04:21 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Michael Darnton]
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I got my px 130 on monday. Had the blue tape holding the keys down. Everything worked fine,except for one problem the shipping company put a hole in the box mad and it chipped one the C# keys. Had to ship it back and get replacement now.

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#1327503 - 12/17/09 01:38 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: bahk7]
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I actually went to a guitar center yesterday to test the px130 and px330 (they don't have the px730 or 830 yet here in the US) the sound was a bit muffled compared to he other pianos there but for it's price, I felt it was a good deal. I was just about to get it when I found out while playing the px330 that it had a clicking problem on the C above middle C. when you press and hold it, it is normal but when you quickly let go of it, it makes this clicking sound as it returns to it's normal position. it is quite annoying. this made me change my decision. as a result, I left there with nothing. so the clicking problem still persists even in these new privias

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#1327711 - 12/17/09 06:32 PM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: xply]
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Got the PX330 last week. Great keyboard but if you are looking for a "true" piano sound, you maybe disappointed. I knew what I was getting and what I needed. The piano sound is ok. There are some fantastic sounds though. I am not crazy about the sustain effect. Love the rhythms.
I tell ya, got my acoustic grand 2 weeks ago and this a week ago. Guess what gets played way way more.....PX330.

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#1328019 - 12/18/09 01:53 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: pixels]
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I just purchased the PX-130 & i'm very impressed. There is some clacking noise, but nothing like the yamaha YPG-535 that i took back. The action is really good & for the most part i'm happy with the all the sounds that it gives me. And for the price point it just can't be beaten. Sure if I had the $$ i would have bought the Yamaha P155, but that's way out of my budget.


Edited by Brian1963 (12/18/09 01:55 AM)

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#1328060 - 12/18/09 04:28 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: pixels]
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Originally Posted By: pixels
I tell ya, got my acoustic grand 2 weeks ago and this a week ago. Guess what gets played way way more.....PX330.


You prefer playing the PX-330 to an acoustic grand?

...really?

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#1328073 - 12/18/09 05:41 AM Re: Casio New PX 130, PX 330, PX 730 Reviews [Re: Sean M.]
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So my new PX 130 arrived last week. 659 euros with CS 67 stand and SP-32 pedals from a net store. No problems with quality - delivery by UPS.

As I tested the mechanics against Yamaha P-85 and P-155 (and other brands) in the store, I decided to go with the PX130 because those Yammies were not considerably better or better at all and they were 1,5 and 2 times the price.

Feel & mechanics:
The keys in this px 130 made some clunky sounds in the beginning, but playing it for a while made those sounds go away. The keys do make a plastic kind of sound, but if playing with normal volume they can't really be heard. Not great mechanics, but a lot better than the DPs in the past.

It doesn't feel like playing a real piano, but playing with Pianoteq and adjusting the sound of the "hammer noise" gives a nice realistic feeling like playing a real piano. So it's not all about the "feel" of the keys as you can trick your brain with sounds as well.

Sound:
Not great, but ok to play. Pianoteq or other software really adds value. For that you need decent hardware though so if you really want good sounds as well and you do not have a powerful computer - double the budget and consider again to buy another piano. If you want to compose and record music - make the investment to the hardware and this px 130 will do fine.

Overall grade 6/10:
So I am somewhat satisfied with this purchase for now, but as I have played some Yamaha grands and I used to own a real piano for more than 10 years can't really say that this PX 130 is anywhere close to the feel or sound by itself. Not waste of money, but doesn't bring a "wow" feeling either without spending a lot of time configuring Pianoteq. With Pianoteq grade 8/10.


Edited by Pianisti (12/18/09 05:47 AM)
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