Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician
SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
Ad (Piano Sing)
How to Make Your Piano Sing
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
Who's Online
75 registered (Auver, ALEXANDER DYKER, 36251, Arthur508, Ben_NZ, 21 invisible), 1218 Guests and 14 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Topic Options
#1270097 - 09/17/09 06:07 PM Please Comment on my Sight-Reading Progress
TromboneAl Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/12/04
Posts: 794
Loc: Northern, Northern California
I've played piano for years, but my sight-reading was terrible (almost "non-existent"). So 1 year and 9 months ago I started practicing sight-reading about two hours per day every day ( click here for more info).

You can get a feeling for where I stand by clicking here.

I've made a lot of progress, but I expected much more. True, I've been at it less than two years, but I'll bet that few students have read through as much material as I have, even in 10 years.

So, please comment on the progress I've made.

Did I progress slower because I am 55 years old?

Did I progress slowly because there is a time component involved (e.g. you can't improve twice as fast by practicing twice as much)?

Have I been practicing too much?

Looking forward to your insight...
_________________________
- Al

My Book: Becoming a Great Sight-Reader -- or Not!
My Blog: The Year of Piano Sight-Reading

Top
(ad) Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#1270155 - 09/17/09 07:42 PM Re: Please Comment on my Sight-Reading Progress [Re: TromboneAl]
frida11 Offline
Full Member

Registered: 03/28/08
Posts: 231
Loc: Pacific Northwest
An important component of sight-reading is learning to sightread at tempo. To do this, most of us have to learn how to leave out notes that aren't necessary. For instance, make sure you hit the downbeats, and the main bass note. Just skip over any unnecessary flourishes, and even offbeats. For sightreading purposes, I think it's better to play closer to tempo and leave out half the notes if necessary while practicing. So you need to look ahead and also process which of the notes are important to hit.

That being said, I think it's awesome that you've disciplined yourself to learn sightreading. It isn't easy!

Top
#1270412 - 09/18/09 09:56 AM Re: Please Comment on my Sight-Reading Progress [Re: frida11]
Morodiene Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Registered: 04/06/07
Posts: 12211
Loc: Boynton Beach, FL
I would say that yes, 2 hours per day is too much for sightreading. Something that helps sightreading is simply learning pieces. You encounter new ideas that later you can recognize as you sight read a new piece. Have you posted about this before? Perhaps elsewhere on the Pianist Corner or ABF? I believe I commented on this approach a while ago, if not with you than someone else.

There is just no substitute for time. Yes, continue to sight read as you go, but keep it to 2-3 pages per day. Then spend the rest of your practice time learning pieces to the point of playing them with ease. There is a benefit to doing this that will help your sight reading, but more importantly, it will be much more fulfilling.

Even the best sight readers would prefer to perform a piece they've had time to work on and really digest.
_________________________
private piano/voice teacher - full time
MTNA member
www.valeoconservatory.com
Petrof 9'2 Concert, Yamaha G3, Roland FP-7, Yamaha MOX6, Kawai MP11

Top
#1270433 - 09/18/09 10:35 AM Re: Please Comment on my Sight-Reading Progress [Re: Morodiene]
Minniemay Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/07/09
Posts: 1702
Loc: CA
I think you've made great progress! Keep it up! And yes, your progress will be slower because of your age. That's perfectly normal. But I wouldn't worry about it. You're reading just fine if you can read the pieces you posted accurately.
_________________________
B.A., Piano, Piano Pegagogy, Music Ed.
M.M., Piano

Top
#1270483 - 09/18/09 12:20 PM Re: Please Comment on my Sight-Reading Progress [Re: Minniemay]
Morodiene Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Registered: 04/06/07
Posts: 12211
Loc: Boynton Beach, FL
I was right, this was brought up after you completed one year in December:
sightreading topic

"Summary: I improved significantly, but less than I expected to." is what you said back then as well as now. I wonder, did you change anything since December? If not, results were less than what you expected in December. Wouldn't it make sense to conclude that focusing on sightreading alone is not the way to becoming a better pianist?

In your previous post:
"My plan for year two:

1. 30 minutes per day
2. Modern/pop/jazz pieces only (no more hymns or classical)
3. Always use metronome"

Did you make this change? How did this help?

I'm asking for clarification reasons only.
_________________________
private piano/voice teacher - full time
MTNA member
www.valeoconservatory.com
Petrof 9'2 Concert, Yamaha G3, Roland FP-7, Yamaha MOX6, Kawai MP11

Top
#1270623 - 09/18/09 03:50 PM Re: Please Comment on my Sight-Reading Progress [Re: Morodiene]
TromboneAl Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/12/04
Posts: 794
Loc: Northern, Northern California
Thanks for the comments.

Yes, after December I started doing just 30 minutes per day. However, I'm enjoying the sight-reading more, so I often do two hours or so. It's fun to read through old popular music (just finished a book of songs from around 1900), for example.

However, I am not focusing on sight-reading alone. I'm retired, and am lucky to be able to play as much as I want. So I also do a lot of jazz work, memorizing, drills, etc. I'll often play 5-6 hours per day. Sight-reading is the largest hole in my range of skills, so I'm trying to "fix it."

I have indeed stopped reading hymns, since I believe that sight-reading skill is music-type-specific. However, I also enjoy classical pieces, and am doing some reading of those.

I vowed to always use a metronome, but I don't. I use the metronome about a third of the time.

There are some pieces that I read through repeatedly, but I never get really good at one unless I memorize it. I will do more of this.


Edited by TromboneAl (09/18/09 03:52 PM)
_________________________
- Al

My Book: Becoming a Great Sight-Reader -- or Not!
My Blog: The Year of Piano Sight-Reading

Top

Moderator:  Ken Knapp 
What's Hot!!
Christmas Header
- > Gift Ideas for Music Lovers < -
From PianoSupplies.com a division of Piano World.
-------------------
The December Free Piano Newsletter
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
PIANO BOOKS
Interesting books about the piano, pianists, piano history, biographies, memoirs and more!
(ad) Yamaha CP Music Rest Promo
Yamaha CP Music Rest Promo
(ad) HAILUN Pianos
Hailun Pianos - Click for More
Ad (Seiler/Knabe)
Seiler Pianos
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
(ad) Piano Music Sale - Dover Publications
Piano Music Sale
Sheet Music Plus (125)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
New Topics - Multiple Forums
trill RH: the LH goes too fast
by Lorcar
47 minutes 12 seconds ago
Kawai's CS series are hard to find..
by vcsel
Today at 06:14 AM
Which Treble Mute works the Best?
by Paul678
Today at 04:39 AM
Blubbering and friction
by music32
Today at 03:22 AM
Merry Christmas!
by ZikO
Today at 03:05 AM
Forum Stats
77349 Members
42 Forums
159975 Topics
2349307 Posts

Max Online: 15252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
Gift Ideas for Music Lovers!
Find the Perfect Gift for the Music Lovers on your List!
Visit our online store today.

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2014 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission