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#1288111 - 10/16/09 09:53 AM
Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
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Registered: 08/16/09
Posts: 530
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Which is your favorite tuning hammer ? And why ?
Your views on Renner tuning hammer; Watanabe and Schaff.
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#1288132 - 10/16/09 10:22 AM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Cashley]
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Registered: 04/02/08
Posts: 1443
Loc: Niagara Region, On. Canada
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Favorite hammer for the sake of value would be my old Watanabe with a 10 deg. head. It has worked flawlessly for thousands of tunings and has lasted for several decades. For the sake of ease of use, less streess, less flex, lighter weight and easier/quicker manipulation from pin to pin my carbon fiber Fujan works wonderfully. I have yet to determine whether its relatively high cost was truly worth it since I really could have continued on using the Watanabe that is now a spare.
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#1288153 - 10/16/09 10:50 AM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Emmery]
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I still have a sentimental attachment to my Schaff rosewood extension. Being something of a Luddite, it resonates...plus, it glares at me like the googly-eyed money stack on those commercials everytime I think of a Fujan...
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#1288156 - 10/16/09 10:58 AM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Emmery]
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Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 377
Loc: USA
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Definitely Fujan.
-It's an extendable carbon fiber hammer. -It is easy to feel the pin in the block and this makes pin setting faster and more accurate. -Less weight means less fatigue. -You can easily customize the handle and head/tip configuration. -It is a joy to use and it looks snazzy.
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#1288170 - 10/16/09 11:25 AM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: JBE]
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Registered: 11/13/08
Posts: 3936
Loc: Bradford County, PA
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Hale speed hammer. Weighs over 2 pounds. Gives me the best control when using a jerk style with tight pins.
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#1288192 - 10/16/09 11:56 AM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: UnrightTooner]
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Registered: 05/06/07
Posts: 273
Loc: Fort Collins - Loveland, CO
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I use three! Main lever is a custom one made by Mike Swendesen of Calgary. Hex shaft, hot air balloon style handle, looks like #101 here, he sized the knob after asking for measurements of my hand, comfy! 12"+ long, leverage. Reyburn CyberHammer: impact hammer for pitch raising on little verticals, sitting comfortably in front of them. Fast. I got an older titanium one. Also use a shorter Faulk titanium with a shorter lever for looser pins where I don't need the leverage of my main lever. I have a Watanabe extension lever out of the Pianotek catalog sitting in my re-stringing kit, for backup use. Started with it originally, but never liked the small-diameter handle for long-term use.
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#1288193 - 10/16/09 11:56 AM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Jim Moy]
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Oh, I see the question is "which is your favorite?"... singular. Ahem.
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#1288200 - 10/16/09 12:03 PM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: JBE]
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Registered: 08/16/09
Posts: 530
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Could you elaborate on Fujan ? German made ? Sounds Chinese to me.
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#1288202 - 10/16/09 12:07 PM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Cashley]
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#1288208 - 10/16/09 12:16 PM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: JDelmore]
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Registered: 08/16/09
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How do you pronounce the word ? Fu-Jan or Fu-Yan ?
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#1288246 - 10/16/09 01:30 PM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Cashley]
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Registered: 03/07/05
Posts: 917
Loc: Kalamazoo Michigan
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I switched this summer to a carbon fiber hammer that Mayer Gluzman offers...saw the thing at the PTG exhibit hall...and I'm very happy...the lightness of the hammer has VERY MUCH helped my right shoulder, and the stiffness improved my unisons immediately, i.e. better speed and contact. Swithching heads/tips is super easy (they fit!) and Mayer takes a huge personal interest in making sure anybody who buys his hammer is totally happy.
RPD
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#1288828 - 10/17/09 04:17 PM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Cashley]
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Registered: 05/25/04
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Loc: Boston, MA
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Favorite: Charles Faulk CF-A. Carbon fiber and titanium, very light, very inflexible so that it responds right away to pressure without bending. This is my second Faulk hammer. Faulk is a good hammer maker and a good guy. Old Favorite: Schaff extendable hammer, about $90 when I bought it, don't know the price now. This one has been in my kit for ten years and I expect it'll be there forever.
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#1288944 - 10/17/09 06:56 PM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: bellspiano]
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Registered: 09/26/09
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Daniel Levitan "Classic" tuning hammer through Pianotek. Specifically designed to fit in the Yamaha grands at A0, and with enough clearance in the Mason & Hamlins even with 7.5 degree head, slightly more flex than the Fujan supposedly although I didn't notice the difference when I switched. It's only $149, and Dan's a super-nice guy. I am holding onto the Fujan, though.
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#1288986 - 10/17/09 08:25 PM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Eric D]
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Registered: 10/17/09
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Loc: Missouri USA
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I'm using a Schaff mini lever with a Jaun shaft, head and tip It's nice to be able to have a short lever for a fine tuning pass and still being able to be long enough for tight pins. Daryl Durand http://www.durandpiano.com/
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#1289061 - 10/17/09 11:52 PM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Daryl Durand]
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Registered: 02/05/05
Posts: 1135
Loc: SW Missouri
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1974 Hale with a 5 degree head and Watanabe 2 tip. Tens of thousands of tunings on that old boy. Also carry a Flugelbauer ball end hammer with 2 Watanabe tip. The Flugelbauer came as a package with the voicing kit, (a very nice investment) that included some unique regulation tools and 4 voicing tools plus picker. Have using the Flugel on verticals and Hale on grands.
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#1289262 - 10/18/09 12:32 PM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Jim Moy]
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Registered: 04/20/09
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I like the part about "intimate impact feel". Its hard to resist at the price of $895.
Edited by Dan Casdorph (10/18/09 12:32 PM)
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#1289263 - 10/18/09 12:32 PM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Jim Moy]
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It sure does. Maybe someone could mount it on their car hood. Hey Jerry?
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#1289693 - 10/19/09 08:26 AM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Cashley]
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Registered: 12/08/06
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Loc: Arvada, Colorado, USA, Earth
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Jahn (pronounced 'yawn'); non-extension; very lightweight and rigid with a solid head that won't break like most others. I recently refinished the handle and replaced the tip after 3 years of service.
When I obtained this hammer (from Pianotek) it gave me new life as a technician. Pain in my hand disappeared overnight. I have no doubts that it was the best tool upgrade I ever made.
The Fujan would be just as good, if not better. The Jahn costs about $100.
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#1289702 - 10/19/09 08:52 AM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Randy Karasik]
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Registered: 08/16/09
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I checked Pianoteksupply.com it only shows Watanabe and Gooseneck.
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#1289749 - 10/19/09 10:25 AM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Cashley]
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Stay away from goosenecks unless you need it for a specific application.
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#1290210 - 10/19/09 10:35 PM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Cashley]
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 At Pianotek, the Jahn Ball is TH-7B and the Jahn Lightweight is Th-6 and the pear-handle is TH-5P. Tuning tools I'm partial NPI to the Charles Faulk carbon CF-A ... Like a ROCK!
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#1290381 - 10/20/09 08:11 AM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Scooters]
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Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 5889
Loc: Grand Rapids Michigan
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Gotta say, they sure have some screwy names for these tuning hammers. "fujan." "Gooseneck." Bend over and let me try my gooseneck on ya. "Watanabe." We all "Watanabe" be this and "Watanabe" be that. My favorite one is the one that I own not the one you own. 
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#1291935 - 10/22/09 03:44 PM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Jerry Groot RPT]
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Gotta say, they sure have some screwy names for these tuning hammers. "fujan." "Gooseneck." Bend over and let me try my gooseneck on ya. "Watanabe." We all "Watanabe" be this and "Watanabe" be that. My favorite one is the one that I own not the one you own. LOL.... just like trying to describe to a customer that his or her hammer butt needs new leather so the jack works smoother.......oh the names assoc. with pianos.... I've tried most of the levers out there except Mr. Faulk's lever. I've used the Watanabe, Yamaha, Hale, several impact levers, Fujan, Keith Bowman hand made from Renner but I just ended up using the standard Schaff Rosewood Extension Lever. Five degree head with a watanabe tip. Nothing fancy just plain and traditional.
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#1291998 - 10/22/09 05:27 PM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Josef]
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Loc: Grand Rapids Michigan
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I suppose you used the Hale just for the Hale of it? I won't even go there with the Faulk tuning hammer!!!! But, I'd "Renner" a guess it would be way off into left field and may "impact" the wrong notions and someone might end up getting the "Schaff." t.
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#1292142 - 10/22/09 10:04 PM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Jerry Groot RPT]
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I suppose you used the Hale just for the Hale of it? Hey, hey, settle down over there, I think you've already got one hijacked thread here already!  [Diane, don't you even get started...]
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#1292162 - 10/22/09 10:52 PM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Jim Moy]
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Oops! 
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#1292304 - 10/23/09 09:44 AM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Jerry Groot RPT]
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Registered: 04/02/08
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Loc: Niagara Region, On. Canada
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Have any tuners with lots of experience found any benefit from getting impact levers, or are they better suited for newcomers to the trade? I often use an impact style of tuning with a normal lever under certain conditions, but as a tool designed for impact, is there a benefit to someone who uses the style already, or is it a whole new learning curve that sets an experienced tuner back a few paces?
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#1293886 - 10/26/09 09:55 AM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: Emmery]
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Registered: 11/13/08
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Loc: Bradford County, PA
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Emmery:
I had considered one, but decided it would be a pain when the rendering is very light and needs to be finessed.
But have you ever left the hammer sit on the pin a little sloppily and impacted that way? There are times when this can help.
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#1293919 - 10/26/09 10:34 AM
Re: Your favorite tuning hammer. Why ?
[Re: UnrightTooner]
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Emmery: ...But have you ever left the hammer sit on the pin a little sloppily and impacted that way? There are times when this can help. I have had some really small pins occasionally that lets the hammer drop right down to the coil and still sit loose giving the same effect. I'm not too happy about it because if the fits not good I get the impression that I'm putting some serious wear and tear on my tip slopping around. I knew a fellow years ago in the States that had a piece of velcro on the back of the tuning lever head that he attached a small chunk of chalk with velcro glued to it when he tuned. If he came across a pin that he regarded loose in the block, he would flip the lever over and mark it with the chalk. When he returned to tune the next time, if that string was noticeably more out than the rest he would point it out to the customer and ask if they wanted to get it fixed.
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