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#1289069 - 10/18/09 12:14 AM Humidifier Help!
manofsong Offline
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Registered: 10/16/09
Posts: 143
Loc: Earth
Hello all, this is my first Post. I am a new member so please excuse my newness. I live in the Chicago area and my house is heated with hot water radiators, very dry air. I recently purchased a 1917 Baldwin L 6'3" Grand, Mahogany in color. I am having the entire piano refurbished and I will take delivery within the next month. I know that the dry air will kill my piano if I am not careful so I need to add humidity to my piano room. Can anyone recommend a good portable humidifier I can use? I thought of just buying a Venta type system and putting it on a timer so that it runs in time with the Boiler/Radiators. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for looking.
I often wonder what could have been.

1917 Baldwin L, Satin Mahogany, #30220

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#1289080 - 10/18/09 01:07 AM Re: Humidifier Help! [Re: manofsong]
curry Offline
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Registered: 08/17/02
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You need a DC system.
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#1289137 - 10/18/09 06:08 AM Re: Humidifier Help! [Re: curry]
lilylady Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 4981
Loc: boston north
Several of us have a VENTA (or two). You could check the archives here for more info.

I would suggest as well as Curry the Piano Life Saver System for your piano and that a Venta also be used. The Damp Chaser (PLS) helps the soundboard and the venta helps the wood in the entire piano, as well as those in the room!

I leave mine on continuously when needed. There is a little hygrometer that you can purchase for $12 up that will let you know what the room's humidity is prettty accurately. I try to keep my RH at about 42-45 as suggested by my tech. It has 3 speeds. Don't forget the water additive.

I also have a dehumdifier which is used in its appropriate season.

Right now I am between seasons... bouncing back and forth depending on the rain and temp.

From what I have learned here at PW, it is best if the room stays stable both summer and winter with both humidity and temp.

Congrats on your new piano. We love pics, if you have any to share as the piano is being delivered.
"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination, and life to everything."

#1289268 - 10/18/09 12:42 PM Re: Humidifier Help! [Re: lilylady]
manofsong Offline
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Registered: 10/16/09
Posts: 143
Loc: Earth
Thank you both for your replies. I've never heard of a DC system so I will do a little internet research today. Another problem I have is that I live in an older home, a 1930 Bungalow, drafty and tough to keep warm at times. I have a month or so before both the piano and the cold weather arrive so I will figure this out. The piano itself is ready for delivery, I am not. My wife and I visited the Baldwin two weeks ago and she's stunning, to me. I am not a pianist, I was a Voice Major in college at the Manhattan School of Music in NYC. I am now a Contractor who remodels homes and I love what I do. My whole life I dreamed of owning a beautiful, older, piano and now my dream has come true. I found this piano in a retirement home, unused, dirty and beaten down. They think the piano was purchased 30 or so years earlier but nobody could be sure. I had been looking for a piano for some time and when I saw this one I knew it was for me. I paid a Tech to give it the once-over and he assured me this piano was worth investing in. It has now been six since this process was started and we are very close to delivery. I am in the process of rehabbing the front room of my house, where this piano will sit. The floors were refinished just this past week and the walls and ceilings have been replastered. I only need to paint the walls, reattach the baseboard and finish the windows and I am ready for the Baldwin. I do play but not very well. I plan on taking lessons this Winter and having my own piano to practice on will make me very happy indeed. I already have pictures of the finished product but I don't yet know how to post them. I will post as soon as I figure it out.
I often wonder what could have been.

1917 Baldwin L, Satin Mahogany, #30220

#1289280 - 10/18/09 01:20 PM Re: Humidifier Help! [Re: manofsong]
teachum2 Offline
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Registered: 11/21/06
Posts: 39
Loc: Idaho
I have been very happy with my Holmes. I have one that has been functioning for over five years now. My husband saw a good deal of a smaller one and got it for a backup. It has 2 one gallon tanks and my bigger one has 2 two gallon tanks. I do have the heating rod portion only of the dampp-chaser system, but my room is very big and open and a dc alone would not be able to control my environment. Thus the reason I chose to go with portable machines instead. My humidifiers run in the winter and for summer I have a great LG dehumidifier. When the humidity's running 70-75% there is no way the DC heating rods can mitigate it by themselves.

My room stays at 42-45% which all the ukes and guitars on the walls love as well.

Edited by teachum2 (10/18/09 01:21 PM)
You will be 10 years older ten years from now no matter what, so go for it.

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#1289627 - 10/19/09 04:26 AM Re: Humidifier Help! [Re: manofsong]
beethoven986 Offline
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Registered: 01/20/09
Posts: 3436
Get a Dampp-Chaser system. I have one on mine, and it makes a big, big difference.
B.Mus. Piano Performance 2009
M.Mus. Piano Performance & Literature 2011
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Certified Dampp-Chaser installer

#1291896 - 10/22/09 02:27 PM Re: Humidifier Help! [Re: beethoven986]
manofsong Offline
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Registered: 10/16/09
Posts: 143
Loc: Earth
Did you have the Dampp-Chaser system installed in Chicago? If so, can I ask who installed it and how much it cost? I would like to know how much money to save for such a system. Thanks.
I often wonder what could have been.

1917 Baldwin L, Satin Mahogany, #30220

#1291947 - 10/22/09 04:13 PM Re: Humidifier Help! [Re: manofsong]
Steve Cohen Offline
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Registered: 05/26/01
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Loc: Maryland/DC/No. VA
Any piano technician can install a Dc system. I would ask the person refurbishing the piano to install a system on delivery.
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#1292036 - 10/22/09 06:45 PM Re: Humidifier Help! [Re: Steve Cohen]
Jerry Groot RPT Offline
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Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 6828
Loc: Grand Rapids Michigan

No offense but, I wouldn't go quite so far as to say "any technician can install one." While any one can, they do not always install them correctly. I have followed up after many of them that left wires hanging all over the place or, the dampp chaser itself was only partially hung and hung in the wrong place or the humidistat was placed where it will not properly read both the tank and rods.

I would recommend contacting the Dampp Chaser website http://www.pianolifesaver.com/english/installer.php and choose one from there if your re-builder doesn't do it. Those with a star next to their name have installed the most units and have the most experience.
Jerry Groot RPT
Piano Technicians Guild
Grand Rapids, Michigan

We love to play BF2.

#1292149 - 10/22/09 10:16 PM Re: Humidifier Help! [Re: Jerry Groot RPT]
manofsong Offline
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Registered: 10/16/09
Posts: 143
Loc: Earth
Thank you all for your input. I will check the site and find an experienced Tech.
I often wonder what could have been.

1917 Baldwin L, Satin Mahogany, #30220


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