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#1280901 - 10/05/09 01:32 AM Roland RM-700
boxijie Offline
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Registered: 12/20/08
Posts: 126
Loc: Vancouver
Has anyone purchased or played one of these?

Are they meant to take over the KR series or are they different in some way.

Are they comparable to the Yamaha CVP?

From the Utube videos I've seen, looks like good competition to the new cvp 500 series about to come out, but what do you think?

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#1283198 - 10/08/09 05:15 PM Re: Roland RM-700 [Re: boxijie]
boxijie Offline
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Anyone?

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#1283929 - 10/09/09 04:53 PM Re: Roland RM-700 [Re: boxijie]
Nikalette Offline
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Registered: 12/22/08
Posts: 1081
Loc: California
Sorry, I hate to see you getting all lonely waiting for an answer, but I have no clue!

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#1283960 - 10/09/09 05:44 PM Re: Roland RM-700 [Re: Nikalette]
lablovers Offline
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Registered: 09/14/09
Posts: 32
Loc: California
Well, I will be checking one out this weekend. We have no Roland shops even close to where we live so we will be taking abit of a field trip to look at the RM 700 and a HP 207. I think by specs the RM 700 will compare to the Yamaha CVP's. I am really debating whether all the extra's on CVP's / RM 700 will just be a distraction to relearning the piano or whether it will be a motivating factor to play more. I don't want to pay for these features and find they are just needless frills. I'm afraid though I won't know until I take the plunge. We'll see. With more reading I wonder if I should concentrate on looking for something with great sound, wooden keys and the best action possible. As a newbie I'm not sure I will be the best judge but will report the experience with the RM 700.

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#1284049 - 10/09/09 08:50 PM Re: Roland RM-700 [Re: lablovers]
Nikalette Offline
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Registered: 12/22/08
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Loc: California
I thought the CVP 409 was amazing. I don't think all those features are a distraction! You can ignore them when you don't want them, but what fun to have them there. It's just a LOT of money. Play the Roland V just for fun, I'd love to hear what you think. I still like the ROland touch better than the Yamaha touch.

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#1284135 - 10/10/09 12:50 AM Re: Roland RM-700 [Re: lablovers]
boxijie Offline
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Registered: 12/20/08
Posts: 126
Loc: Vancouver
I am looking forward to hearing your report, especially if you are able to compare with the CVP series.

I like the idea of all the other "distractions" because we can get the whole family involved with things like Karaoke and single finger chords.

I want to improve my jazz so I would like to play with an accompaniment.

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#1284218 - 10/10/09 09:08 AM Re: Roland RM-700 [Re: boxijie]
Geoffk Offline
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Registered: 11/11/08
Posts: 757
Loc: Tokyo, Japan
The RM-700 was just introduced in January 2009. It will probably be the first of a new series to replace the older KR (and possibly HPi) piano models. Looking at the photos and specs, it is basically an HP-207 plus a huge color touchscreen, many more tones and effects, rhythms and accompaniment and educational features. I agree that it looks comparable to a CVP-409.

The HP-207 is a great piano in touch and sound, and this should b just as good. I don't have a lot of direct experience with this new model, but it looks like a spectacular instrument, and I'm sure that it would be a great choice.

You definitely should also play a CVP-409 to compare. Also, you should be aware that a new CVP-5xx series will be introduced this month or so at Yamaha dealers. You should also look at the new Yamaha models (or you might get a closeout deal on a CVP-409).

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#1284556 - 10/10/09 09:46 PM Re: Roland RM-700 [Re: Geoffk]
mariaristotle Offline
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Registered: 08/30/09
Posts: 19
Loc: USA
I have seen the model and felt that it was quite expensive for what you get. The additional video modes compared to the HPi series were not impressive. However, the cabinet is a big improvement. The difference in sturdiness and quality is huge. I was told that the cabinet maker was American and that the units were assembled in the US once the keyboard was shipped. I am not sure how reliable the source is though considering that he was a Roland piano salesperson.
I hope you get a chance to try it soon!


Edited by mariaristotle (10/10/09 09:46 PM)

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#1285231 - 10/12/09 02:13 AM Re: Roland RM-700 [Re: mariaristotle]
lablovers Offline
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Registered: 09/14/09
Posts: 32
Loc: California
OK this was a fun weekend, I visted several stores and played CVP 403,405, 407. CLP 340 and 370. Roland RM 700 and Kawaii 117. Played several acoustics as well. Yamaha U1, Kawai K25. Whew I got blasted with info. It was an interesting process. First, I did not like the sound or the touch of the Kawai CA 117 compared to the Roland RM 700. Others will have different opinions but that was mine. However, the Kawai had some good features and was very the most reasonably priced at $3000 less than the Roland. The Roland's sound was great as was the touch. I don't know that the Roland RM 700 compares with the Yamaha CVP 409 specifically but atleast the 405, 407, 409 series. Color Screen, Accompaniments, etc you can chk the online specs. I think the quality of the voices might be a tad less than the Yamaha series but again this is my opnion. The exception is the Rm 700 Grand Piano sound which I thought was at least equal to if not better than then Yamaha series. I think I am leaning towards the CVP Yamahas, I think they will offer some features that will help hold my interest and offer teaching tools on screen that will help my wife(new to piano) and I (returning to Piano)that the CLP's lack. We are still processing all the info and yeah the CVP's are minimally going to be $2-3000 more than the CLP's so this is not a decision we will make lightly. Thats a lot of dollars for us. We might yet go acoustic but learning features of DP's are outweighing the touch, feel and sound of acoustics right now. Sorry for being long winded.

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#1285251 - 10/12/09 03:17 AM Re: Roland RM-700 [Re: lablovers]
Geoffk Offline
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Registered: 11/11/08
Posts: 757
Loc: Tokyo, Japan
If you're going to get a CVP, than I'd wait a few weeks before finalizing anything. The 40x CVPs are going to be replaced momentarily by new 50x CVPs with improved specs. These are already up on the Yamaha web site and are on sale in Japan.

You could either get a newer and better 50x model or else get a closeout price on a 40x model. Either way, it puts you in a great bargaining position.

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#1285286 - 10/12/09 04:59 AM Re: Roland RM-700 [Re: Geoffk]
Philip Yeoh Offline
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Registered: 05/30/08
Posts: 73
Loc: Penang, Malaysia
Wow it only seemed like yesterday when Yamaha released the CVP-400 series. And now I hear about the 500 series? Can't wait!

P/S I've only been using a humble CVP-105 for the past decade...perhaps it's time to upgrade when the CVP-500 series arrives!
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#1290077 - 10/19/09 07:22 PM Re: Roland RM-700 [Re: Philip Yeoh]
mdevine Offline
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Registered: 03/31/09
Posts: 13
Bump for info on the RM 700. How are the learning tools, General Feedback, prices paid, etc. Recommended alternatives? Any info would be great.

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#1290149 - 10/19/09 09:16 PM Re: Roland RM-700 [Re: mdevine]
Geoffk Offline
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Registered: 11/11/08
Posts: 757
Loc: Tokyo, Japan
The alternative for the RM-700 would be a Yamaha CVP-40x or the new CVP-50x series, probably a CVP-405 or better. still haven't seen an RM-700 in person yet, so I can't really say much more.

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