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#1290963 - 10/21/09 12:18 AM MIDI to USB cables
Random01 Offline
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Registered: 10/02/09
Posts: 25
Loc: Vancouver, BC

Will the sound of the piano, using a midi to usb cable to connect it to my laptop, be better than just using a mic?

And, what other advantages does connecting my piano to the computer have?

(I'm wondering whether or not to buy one of these cables)


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#1291222 - 10/21/09 11:58 AM Re: MIDI to USB cables [Re: Random01]
sorka Offline
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Registered: 12/26/08
Posts: 6
Loc: Merced, CA
The MIDI data isn't sound. It's data that encodes the keys, velocity, duration, etc. You'll need software on your PC.

If you wanted to make a MIDI recording, then there's no sound involved. If you want to play back a MIDI recording, you can either input it back into your keyboard or any other device OR software that plays MIDI. If you're using something like Pianoteq, True Pianos, or any other software packages that model or playback samples, then whether it would sound better would depend on the quality of the synthesizer in your keyboard vs the quality of the synthesizer in your PC based software.

I use an old Korg DP-80 from the early 90s and it doesn't have anything onboard that sounds anything remotely like a piano.

I use Pianoteq on PC through good bookshelf speakers and it sounds fantastic.

#1291253 - 10/21/09 12:58 PM Re: MIDI to USB cables [Re: Random01]
MacMacMac Offline
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Registered: 09/24/09
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Loc: North Carolina
If you connect the MIDI output of the piano to your computer, you're only capturing the keystroke data (to a MIDI file), not the sound. The MIDI data that you capture would have to be converted to sound by a MIDI "synth". Most PCs have that (they can play .mid files using Windows Media Player, or just about any player software). But the sound is usually poor because the Windows "synth" stinks. If you want good piano sound, you'll need better software (or other, external equipment).

If you really want to record the sound from your piano, connect the piano's audio output ("aux out" or "line out") to your computer's sound card. (Does your piano have such an output?)

Use a digital sound recorder to capture the sound as a WAV audio file. Windows comes with "sndrec32", which can record the audio. Better yet, get "Audacity". It's free online. It does a much better job.

You can burn WAV audio files to a CD. Or, you can convert the WAV files to MP3 files using other software, and play the MP3 file on just about any player. (Or convert the files to ipod format using still other software, and play them on your ipod.)

#1291254 - 10/21/09 01:01 PM Re: MIDI to USB cables [Re: MacMacMac]
DragonPianoPlayer Offline
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Registered: 12/12/06
Posts: 2452
Loc: Denver, CO
Check out www.pianoclues.com for tips for how to work with midi.


#1291282 - 10/21/09 01:46 PM Re: MIDI to USB cables [Re: DragonPianoPlayer]
Always Wanted to Play Piano Offline
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Registered: 01/22/08
Posts: 674
Loc: Chicago
Adding to what MAcMacMac said... many piano soundfonts sound better than the onboard sounds that came with my DP. Do you like how yours sounds? If you want to record those sounds, this rules out MIDI (as others have said). If you don't want to record those sounds, there is a whole world of soundfonts and Virtual Pianos out there, many of which sound awfully nice.

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#1291311 - 10/21/09 02:49 PM Re: MIDI to USB cables [Re: Always Wanted to Play Piano]
Random01 Offline
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Registered: 10/02/09
Posts: 25
Loc: Vancouver, BC
I know I sound like a totally noob, but what exactly are piano soundfonts?

I guess I'm not really looking for MIDI to USB cables then...

My original question in my head was "How do I record my piano and upload it to my computer?", I then tried using my camera, webcam and mic, but they all seemed to have less quality than how it really sounded. So I figured if I could just directly upload my songs to my laptop from my piano, it would probably have less background noise, such as sounds from my computer...

Anyone know how to figure this out?

Any suggestions would help! Thanks!

#1291509 - 10/21/09 08:13 PM Re: MIDI to USB cables [Re: Random01]
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#1291546 - 10/21/09 09:33 PM Re: MIDI to USB cables [Re: Random01]
Martin C. Doege Offline
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Registered: 06/19/09
Posts: 448
Loc: Hamburg, Germany
You connect the Line Out (or Headphone Out) on your DP to your Line In on your computer, then record with Audacity (or something similar).

MIDI is the electronic equivalent of sheet music (roughly speaking) -- it contains information about the notes played, but no audio. So it doesn't really help you here.
Yamaha P-85; Pianoteq Pleyel

#1291563 - 10/21/09 10:06 PM Re: MIDI to USB cables [Re: Martin C. Doege]
DragonPianoPlayer Offline
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