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#2145262 - 09/06/13 12:47 PM Re: funny things students say [Re: keystring]
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I have seen key signatures with double flats, but only in wind ensemble music, usually German (they use a lot of flats anyway).

The most common examples I can think of offhand were Db minor pieces.
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#2145313 - 09/06/13 02:32 PM Re: funny things students say [Re: keystring]
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Originally Posted By: keystring
Originally Posted By: ten left thumbs
Originally Posted By: PApianoteacher
"But isn't B flat major the one with the sharps in it?"

- 11 year old girl



... you mean, it isn't?!?!?

I figured this out last night:

A# B# Cx D# E# Fx Gx A# (enharmonically). I'd love to see that as a key signature! crazy

You don't have to "figure it out." Just continue adding enharmonic keys around the circle of fifths - so you pair Gb and F#, Db and C#, like usual, but then just keep going - Ab and G#, Eb and D#, Bb and A#, F and E#, C and B#, G and Fx (!), and you can even keep going after that - D and Cx, A and Gx, E and Dx, B and Ax, F# and Ex, etc, etc, etc. For example, Dx major consists of Dx, Ex, F#x, Gx, Ax, Bx, C#x, Dx - the same notes as E major (or Fb major, or Gbbb major, but those are another thing altogether.) grin
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#2145337 - 09/06/13 03:08 PM Re: funny things students say [Re: Barb860]
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If you can sightread in Dx major, you are way ahead of me.

I think I would use a fine point felt tip and write the notes on my finger nails, then never move my hand.
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#2145352 - 09/06/13 03:40 PM Re: funny things students say [Re: Barb860]
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Polyphonist, your post constitutes a type of "figuring it out", even if honed into a brief procedure. It's still figuring and calculating. It may not be so for you -- you might just have all the double sharp scales memorized. But if you're determining the notes of the double sharp scale on the fly from another scale, then that's still "figuring it out."

There's a great deal to be said for knowing more than one way to figure something out. So while your method may be useful, it's also useful to know other methods.
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#2145370 - 09/06/13 04:16 PM Re: funny things students say [Re: TimR]
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Originally Posted By: TimR
If you can sightread in Dx major, you are way ahead of me.

I don't know if I could do that. Maybe very slowly. grin
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#2145445 - 09/06/13 07:54 PM Re: funny things students say [Re: keystring]
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Originally Posted By: keystring
Originally Posted By: ten left thumbs
Originally Posted By: PApianoteacher
"But isn't B flat major the one with the sharps in it?"

- 11 year old girl



... you mean, it isn't?!?!?

I figured this out last night:

A# B# Cx D# E# Fx Gx A# (enharmonically). I'd love to see that as a key signature! crazy


I love it!

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#2167754 - 10/17/13 03:29 PM Re: funny things students say [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Originally Posted By: keystring
Originally Posted By: ten left thumbs
Originally Posted By: PApianoteacher
"But isn't B flat major the one with the sharps in it?"

- 11 year old girl



... you mean, it isn't?!?!?

I figured this out last night:

A# B# Cx D# E# Fx Gx A# (enharmonically). I'd love to see that as a key signature! crazy

You don't have to "figure it out." Just continue adding enharmonic keys around the circle of fifths - so you pair Gb and F#, Db and C#, like usual, but then just keep going - Ab and G#, Eb and D#, Bb and A#, F and E#, C and B#, G and Fx (!), and you can even keep going after that - D and Cx, A and Gx, E and Dx, B and Ax, F# and Ex, etc, etc, etc. For example, Dx major consists of Dx, Ex, F#x, Gx, Ax, Bx, C#x, Dx - the same notes as E major (or Fb major, or Gbbb major, but those are another thing altogether.) grin


Or just take A major (3 sharps) and lift it all up one half by adding 1 sharp to all notes
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#2229612 - 02/11/14 12:58 PM Re: funny things students say [Re: Barb860]
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Our piano teacher recently has been helping my 9 year old to explore different styles of music, in addition to the classical.

On our way back home, I asked "Classical, Jazz and Pop", which one do you like more? "Let me see..... I would say Pop", he replied, "you know, I like 7 Up"

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#2230721 - 02/12/14 11:36 PM Re: funny things students say [Re: Barb860]
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Awkwerti Bass: when the left hand starts playing Alberti bass in a piece that doesn't call for it. A student came up with that maybe 2 years ago and I still giggle about it.
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