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#1292380 - 10/23/09 12:19 PM Sticky key when sus-ped is engaged
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Registered: 11/30/08
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Loc: Boston
Hey there everyone, mornin'

So a question I had, not that I'm even thinking of tinkering on my own, the tuner/tech can take this one. But I'm curious as to why.

My new-to-me piano has a couple of slow to return keys at the top. C & D I believe. There is also another key (C again I think, one octave lower)that is also slow to return. But the interesting thing is that when the sustain pedal is engaged it aggravates the speed of return, and the key won't fully return. But once the pedal is released, the key jumps right back into position.

Oh, the piano is a 1981 Kimball console. It's in fantastic shape (needs a tuning.) The original owner didn't play much, but kept care of it like a baby. So while there are some very minor tweeks that need to be done (Such as those top 2 slow to return keys) the piano is treating me wonderfully.

Thank you all.

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#1292382 - 10/23/09 12:23 PM Re: Sticky key when sus-ped is engaged [Re: enigma2118]
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The damper spring provides a bit of extra push that can overcome something sticky in the action.
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#1292433 - 10/23/09 01:24 PM Re: Sticky key when sus-ped is engaged [Re: BDB]
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Originally Posted By: BDB
The damper spring provides a bit of extra push that can overcome something sticky in the action.


This is true. Usually a decent tech. can cure this issue in just a few minutes. If they can do it while they are already out there tuning, it might cost you next to nothing.

Good luck,
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#1292831 - 10/24/09 09:08 AM Re: Sticky key when sus-ped is engaged [Re: Rich Galassini]
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The sluggishness is usually caused by tight key bushings - often an indication of the piano being kept in a damp environment.
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#1292833 - 10/24/09 09:24 AM Re: Sticky key when sus-ped is engaged [Re: ChrisVenables]
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Originally Posted By: ChrisVenables
The sluggishness is usually caused by tight key bushings - often an indication of the piano being kept in a damp environment.


Or worse - tight or corroded center pins. I just re-pinned the hammer flanges on a Steinway M. It made all the difference in the world, making an unplayable piano into a decent instrument.

But that's an all day job in the shop, and not a minor adjustment done at the time of the tuning.
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#1292848 - 10/24/09 09:56 AM Re: Sticky key when sus-ped is engaged [Re: Randy Karasik]
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If it were tight centres on the hammer flanges I doubt whether the sustain pedal/damper springs would have much bearing on the key return, but maybe if it were the lever flanges? - let's hope not for enigma's sake.
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#1292872 - 10/24/09 11:01 AM Re: Sticky key when sus-ped is engaged [Re: ChrisVenables]
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If the notes are at the high end of the treble, they don't have dampers. I suppose if the damper lifter rod is on the treble end of the action, AND if the action bolt screws aren't tight, the action could be lifting slightly.

Specifically, what notes are having the problem?
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