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#1297083 - 10/31/09 08:49 AM Behringer EG2180 or Casio AP-45
jackbirdy412 Offline
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Registered: 10/20/09
Posts: 5
I am looking at the Behringer EG2180 and the Casio AP45. Both fit my requirements and fall within my budget. Could someone with knowledge of either of these pianos give me their opinion on them? Right now I am drawn towards the Behringer because of the price, the non-calculator appeal and the fact that it looks a better piano.

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#1297086 - 10/31/09 08:52 AM Re: Behringer EG2180 or Casio AP-45 [Re: jackbirdy412]
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Well, it looks good, but is bad, its just a cheap piece of junk, so go with the Casio
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#1297087 - 10/31/09 08:56 AM Re: Behringer EG2180 or Casio AP-45 [Re: Oblacone]
jackbirdy412 Offline
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In what way is the Casio better? The Behringer is cheaper and I am only 14, I just need something good and reliable to practise on.

Thanks



Edited by jackbirdy412 (10/31/09 09:04 AM)

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#1297286 - 10/31/09 03:15 PM Re: Behringer EG2180 or Casio AP-45 [Re: jackbirdy412]
gerardo1000 Offline
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Registered: 09/18/09
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I did not play the behringer, but from what I can see on some youtube videos it seems to me to be the copy of Williams pianos, which are made in China. The price is good (less than $ 700) but my suggestion to you is the following one:
if you want to spend $ 700.00, buy a Casio AP-45 at Amazon.com (it is currently on sale at a great price). It is a good digital piano.
If you like the Behringer, save some money and buy the Williams Overture at Guitar Center which is currently on sale at $ 490.00.
For the price, it is good and I believe that it will be as good as the Behringer.

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#1297333 - 10/31/09 05:25 PM Re: Behringer EG2180 or Casio AP-45 [Re: gerardo1000]
jackbirdy412 Offline
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How is the action on the Williams Overture?

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#1297375 - 10/31/09 06:57 PM Re: Behringer EG2180 or Casio AP-45 [Re: jackbirdy412]
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I did not find it so bad, it is quite heavy.
If you buy the Williams Overture do not expect the same quality of sound of a Yamaha or Casio. the Willams DP sound is quite mellow (some say"muffled) but it can improved with the reverb and brilliance settings.
I have a Yamaha YDP 223 now (cost $ 1500) and it is much better than the Willams, however for $ 490.00 I find the Overture a great value for the money.

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#1297380 - 10/31/09 07:03 PM Re: Behringer EG2180 or Casio AP-45 [Re: gerardo1000]
emenelton Offline
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Registered: 08/02/09
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$490.00 can probably get you a privia 130 also, which is portable and not too shabby

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#1297475 - 10/31/09 10:47 PM Re: Behringer EG2180 or Casio AP-45 [Re: emenelton]
gerardo1000 Offline
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I played the privia 130, it sounds very good with earphones, better than the Overture, but not too good with its built-in speakers, which are small and show their limits on the bass notes.
The built-in speakers of the Williams are definitely better, as it usually happens with console dps compared to portables.

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#1297565 - 11/01/09 04:38 AM Re: Behringer EG2180 or Casio AP-45 [Re: gerardo1000]
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Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 195
Loc: Pennsylvania
I love my AP-45 which I've had for two years. Still great.

However, you can get the newer models (AP 200, 400) with 128 note polyphony and newer sound source technology.

On the other hand, the AP-45 has line-out audio which appealed to me, and the default piano sounds great in the headphones.

Good luck.

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#1297633 - 11/01/09 09:36 AM Re: Behringer EG2180 or Casio AP-45 [Re: jrcallan]
emenelton Offline
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I would not want to accept the blame for causing someone to have made the decision to choose to buy a williams.

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#1299527 - 11/04/09 04:12 PM Re: Behringer EG2180 or Casio AP-45 [Re: emenelton]
jackbirdy412 Offline
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Registered: 10/20/09
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What about the Yamaha YDP-140? This is about the same price, but it looks and sounds superior, judging by videos I have seen. Does anyone know if the touch is good on this piano?

Thanks

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#1299562 - 11/04/09 05:14 PM Re: Behringer EG2180 or Casio AP-45 [Re: jackbirdy412]
crusadar Offline
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Registered: 05/30/07
Posts: 623
Loc: Middle England
I've tried out a few of these cheap digital pianos, not the Behringer though, and now that I'm becoming a more proficient piano player I'm able to more easily discern the nuances between different pianos, I have to concede that the unknown branded pianos are not worth wasting money on. I guess a lot of us are "ball and chained" by finances, albeit at different levels, but as far as DP's are concerned stick with the known brands. If you had have tried the Yamaha YDP-140 and you liked it, I'd go with that. The Yamaha will sell much easier if and when you come to update it, old Yamaha DP's fetch silly money on eBay here in the UK. The touch isn't the same on the YDP_140 as the touch on the CLP-380...but neither is the price. The touch on digital pianos differs just as greatly as on acoustic pianos, some folks like a heavy touch, some folks like a light touch, and sometimes only an expert can tell the difference. I'd choose either the Yamaha or Casio if I were you.


Edited by crusadar (11/04/09 10:30 PM)

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#1299969 - 11/05/09 12:45 PM Re: Behringer EG2180 or Casio AP-45 [Re: emenelton]
Gyro Offline
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Registered: 04/24/05
Posts: 3704
I depends on the price. The
AP 45 sells for about $1000 in
the US. If the EG 2180 is selling
for same price, that seems high,
since Behringer has made a name
for itself selling at bargain
prices. The EG 2180 would be
okay, but it would have to be
selling for less than $1000, say,
somewhere in the $500-$700 price
range.

I've never tried an EG 2180, but
it does seem to look very similar
to the Williams Overture. I
have an Overture, which I bought
for $600--it is apparently now
selling for about $500. I like
the Overture. It's a budget
digital, but it's satifactory
for playing anything, from
jazz improvisation to big concertos.
Of course, at this price, you're
not going to get a V Piano or a
CLP 380, and design compromises
had to be made to keep the price
that low. The sound is just
satifactory, and the action can
be a little quirky in some playing
situations. But it doesn't bother
me, and anyone should be able
to get around it without much
trouble. In any case, that's just how I
like my pianos, inexpensive and a little
quirky. I have an top-of-the-line
acoustic upright in storage
that I bought in the early 1980's
for ~$6000--a similar model
today would be in the ~$20,000
price range. But I find the
Overture much better for practical,
everyday playing.

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