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#1301331 - 11/07/09 11:24 PM Bartok Anyone?
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Has anyone studied/played Bartok's Out Doors Suite, also known as En Plein Air?

I'm having some challenges in fingering.

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#1301461 - 11/08/09 07:38 AM Re: Bartok Anyone? [Re: J Christina]
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I've played around with it. Great piece!
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#1301506 - 11/08/09 09:51 AM Re: Bartok Anyone? [Re: Kreisler]
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I find the section where Bartok imitates insects or sounds of the night(I forgot the exact title) so original that it almost seems impossible to imagine how anyone could think up this music.

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#1301512 - 11/08/09 10:02 AM Re: Bartok Anyone? [Re: pianoloverus]
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Night Music is the piece that sounds like frogs and insects of the hungarian night. I love that movement too! Truly bartok.

The tricky part is working in the ninths and tenths, in all the other movements. My hand is comfortable with a octave and slightly stretched with a nonth.

I'm thinking of just reworking what's challenging me into seconds.
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#1323187 - 12/11/09 08:28 AM Re: Bartok Anyone? [Re: J Christina]
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Bartók himself suggested the reworking of the ninths into seconds in the ossia in The Chase.
I've play the suite except for Musette. I'd be happy to exchange Ideas, please e-mail me as I am not often on pianoworld anymore my address is a dot kenessey at gmail
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.. it seems to me that the inherent nature [of the piano tone] becomes really expressive only by means of the present tendency to use the piano as a percussion instrument - Béla Bartók, early 1927.

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#1323295 - 12/11/09 11:57 AM Re: Bartok Anyone? [Re: Robert Kenessy]
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Even if Bartok himself offered the solution of 2nds, I think that it would feel differently actually... The dissonance would amplify quite a bit, if you were to change a 9th to a 2nd...

(just saying here, since I'm fortunate enough with huge hands and palms and reaching a 10th (C-F#) quite easily... :D)
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#1357578 - 01/25/10 09:12 AM Re: Bartok Anyone? [Re: Nikolas]
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By chance my eyes fell yesterday on the first autograph of the first piece of Out Doors ("W/ drums&pipes"). Interestingly, the quite horrendous stretches in the RH in bars 48 and forth are written without the octave distance between the top and bottom voice [in the RH], making it very easy to play. I think I may play it in this variant, as this is for em the only technical hurdle in this piece. In this autograph the melody in the LH is doubled in octaves. I'm happy to mail the article which includes the two pages that make up the first autograph in PDF format.


Edited by Robert Kenessey (01/25/10 09:20 AM)
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.. it seems to me that the inherent nature [of the piano tone] becomes really expressive only by means of the present tendency to use the piano as a percussion instrument - Béla Bartók, early 1927.

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