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#1303568 - 11/11/09 07:23 PM
Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
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Hakki has a thread on this in the "Pianist Corner" section. I thought it would be good to have one here too. He has an exciting video of the Mephisto Waltz in it, I have Scriabin's 9th sonata ......and I know that at least a couple of other members here are participating too: LisztAddict and musica71. Who else? And I'm sure none of us will mind if you all come and look at our videos. 
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#1304130 - 11/12/09 03:26 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: Mark_C]
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Or we can use this thread for general competition chit/chat.  By the way, I plan to go to Chicago in June 2010. Hope you can go too. For Berlin 2010, I'll have to see how US$ measure up to the Euro. If the US$ keeps falling at this rate, I cannot afford going to Berlin.
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#1304417 - 11/12/09 11:12 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: LisztAddict]
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Even though that's hardly believable, I guess it's really true.....
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#1304945 - 11/13/09 04:19 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: LisztAddict]
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So......it's just us, eh?  I guess hardly anybody looks down to this section, dunno why..... P.S. For that price, I hope the food at least was pretty good. 
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#1305767 - 11/15/09 01:08 AM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: LisztAddict]
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LA -- I did a thread with my Scriabin under "Member Recordings." I don't see that anyone else in the contest did that. How about you do one too, so I won't feel like I did something dirty or anything...... 
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#1306826 - 11/16/09 07:13 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: LisztAddict]
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Hey LA......this is gonna sound hilarious, but.....When I saw "Ecitals" I thought it was just a misspelling for Recitals. :-)
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#1306828 - 11/16/09 07:15 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: LisztAddict]
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.....and while we're talking about the "spelling" of that word..... One time, a bunch of us thought it was a good idea to make POSTERS for a friend who was giving a recital. The name of the auditorium was Fine Arts Recital Hall. On my poster, I purposely omitted the "i" in Recital. Nobody noticed. 
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#1312382 - 11/25/09 06:50 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: LisztAddict]
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UPDATE (courtesy of a friend in the contest who has a sharp eye): Apparently there will be MULTIPLE winners. This is from the Cliburn website: http://www.cliburn.org/uploads/images/homepage/youtube_homepage.jpg
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#1312547 - 11/26/09 12:42 AM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: LisztAddict]
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OK -- and the great thing is, we'll find out quite soon.
I feel sure there will be multiple winners, i.e. at least 2. I had been wondering anyway (for various reasons) if they wished they had specified that there can be multiple winners, because that seemed like the most appropriate result. And the fact that they are now saying "winners" clinches it in my mind.
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#1314958 - 11/30/09 09:24 AM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: Mark_C]
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Hi Gang: I am just getting back into piano mode after a few years of not playing. Considering VC amateur in May 2011!
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#1315068 - 11/30/09 12:39 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: Allegro13]
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Glad you found this thread, and maybe we'll see you in Fort Worth in '011! Meanwhile maybe they'll be doing another youtube contest before that and we can see you in that too..... BTW you can still see our videos if you want, even though the voting is over. BTW......I took a glance at your profile and I see that your pianos include a Bosendorfer. Cool! I've often used them for performances. And as luck would have it, the place where I did my video has one among their house pianos. Bosendorfer for Scriabin might seem an odd choice, but I jumped at it.
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#1322261 - 12/09/09 10:56 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: Mark_C]
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OK......today was the day, and the result just came out. The winner was someone that I think we'd have to consider a "dark horse," ChooHooi Khoo. I have my opinions and I'm going to try to keep them to myself  because obviously I can't be objective, not just because I didn't "win," which I didn't expect to, but more so because I had ideas about who might win and I was very wrong. But I would be very interested in what other people's reactions might be. All the videos are still online..... Cliburn amateur YouTube videos .....and probably will be for some time. Hers is over here: Winner's video
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#1322275 - 12/09/09 11:08 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: LisztAddict]
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....I doubt there will be more than 1 winner.... Well you were right.  Turns out the "winner s" thing probably was just a typo! Consolations and congratulations to you, LA. I thought you had a shot.
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#1322374 - 12/10/09 02:23 AM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: LisztAddict]
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I expected that the winner could be ANYONE from the field of 58. Well, you were right about that too.  You must have understood the process and the possibilities better than I did.
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#1322416 - 12/10/09 04:16 AM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: Mark_C]
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Heidi Basarab would have my vote. I didn't see them all but I looked at all the ones that had high ratings. There is lots of good stuff there in those videos and they are enjoyable to watch.
I wonder what made them go with Khoo. Look at 4:29-4:35. Ech. You kind of get the feeling the performance is on the verge of that kind of thing the whole way through.
Maybe the judges have sat through so many agonizing childrens' recitals in their lives that they've started to like that tense feeling of waiting for a mistake to happen.
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#1322606 - 12/10/09 11:57 AM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
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Heidi Basarab would have my vote. She's a good friend and I thought she was a top contender. .....Maybe the judges have sat through so many agonizing childrens' recitals in their lives that they've started to like that tense feeling of waiting for a mistake to happen. The judges were "the public." The result is based on online voting. Regarding your reactions to the stuff, I think you're a good observer.
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#1322699 - 12/10/09 02:05 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: Mark_C]
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"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes."
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#1322744 - 12/10/09 02:59 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: Mark_C]
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Am I missing something here? Why Cliburn.org still says the winner will be announced on December 9th?
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#1322790 - 12/10/09 04:10 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: Hakki]
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I was also looking for the info on the winner and can't find it anywhere. Where did you all hear the news? I've only seen it in this thread at Piano World.
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#1322825 - 12/10/09 05:03 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
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Am I missing something here? Why Cliburn.org still says the winner will be announced on December 9th? Well, that was yesterday.
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#1322826 - 12/10/09 05:03 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: LisztAddict]
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A dark horse is an understatement. She is playing piano well but with an intermediate level repertoire. I though the two gentlemen who played four Chopin Etudes or the Liszt Campanella demonstrated more agility. For a World Wide competition you would think that a slightly more advanced repertoire would have been presented.
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#1322879 - 12/10/09 06:19 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: Serge Marinkovic]
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She is playing piano well but with an intermediate level repertoire. Just vice versa - nothing wrong with repertoire, but quite "intermediate" level of playing.
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#1322991 - 12/10/09 09:49 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
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"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." I HOPED SO. The "Rules" included quite an odd rule: The organization had the discretion to change the rules. They were free to do whatever they wanted. I thought the main thing this meant was that they would make sure the winner was worthy, by simply ignoring the votes of an unworthy would-be winner.
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#1322994 - 12/10/09 09:52 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
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Am I missing something here? Why Cliburn.org still says the winner will be announced on December 9th? You didn't get an e-mail announcing the winner? It was sent out last night, a little before 9 P.M. eastern time. The "winner" is a woman named ChooHooi Khoo. BTW.......I don't think I'm doing a very good job concealing my feelings. 
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#1322998 - 12/10/09 09:55 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
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I was also looking for the info on the winner and can't find it anywhere. Where did you all hear the news? I've only seen it in this thread at Piano World. For anybody who hasn't been able to see the news release, here it is: >>VAN CLIBURN FOUNDATION ANNOUNCES WINNER OF SECOND YOUTUBE CONTEST FOR AMATEUR PIANISTS RECORD-BREAKING NUMBER OF ONLINE PARTICIPANTS FORT WORTH, TEXAS, December 9, 2009--ChooHooi Khoo, also known as Janice, has won the Cliburn's second YouTube Contest for Amateur Pianists by popular vote. Voting concluded on November 24, assuring Ms. Khoo a berth in the sixth International Piano Competition for Outstanding Amateurs, to be held in May 2011 in Fort Worth. Watch her performance of Schubert Impromptu, Op. 90, No. 4. Currently a resident of Bakersfield, California, Ms. Khoo was born in Malaysia. She began her piano studies at the age of six with Thien Joe Goh. In 1989, she completed eighth grade piano at the Associated Board of the Royal School of Music (ABRSM) with high distinction, and subsequently received the Datuk I.K. Cheah Memorial Prize for her achievement. In 1991, ChooHooi Khoo immigrated to the United States with her family, and eventually received her Master of Physical Therapy degree from Loma Linda University in California. She continued to play the piano and sing at church, but music became an avocation while she raised two sons and pursued her medical career. Ms. Khoo is currently a full-time physical therapist and practice manager for a rheumatology medical office. Describing her recent return to piano studies, Ms. Khoo remarked: "As my children got older, I encouraged them to learn music and my older son started taking piano lessons from Bonnie Farrer, who is the wife of John Farrer, the conductor of the Bakersfield Symphony Orchestra. I hadn't heard of the Van Cliburn [International Piano] Competition until this summer when Mrs. Farrer returned from the competition and gave my son a program featuring the finalists...This reignited my passion for playing piano and our family was glued to the computer monitor watching the featured competitors on www.cliburn.tv. We even attended the first concert of the Bakersfield Symphony Orchestra 2009-2010 season, featuring the 2009 co-winner of the Nancy Lee and Perry R. Bass Gold Medal, Haochen Zhang!" Ms. Khoo discovered the Cliburn's YouTube Contest only two weeks before the submission deadline. "With the encouragement of my husband and children, I decided to compete, even though I only had two weeks to pick a piece, to practice, to record, and to submit the video. During this time, my family and friends have been very supportive, although most of us thought that I was a long-shot, including myself. Even before the winner was announced, my husband ordered me a Steinway grand piano to replace my upright as a consolation prize for losing the competition and to encourage me to continue playing. Having won, I'm very excited about this opportunity to go to Fort Worth in 2011 and I want to use this God-given opportunity to practice hard (on my new piano) and thank those who supported me. I also hope to encourage my children through example, to practice hard and follow their dreams."<<
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#1323003 - 12/10/09 10:01 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
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She is playing piano well but with an intermediate level repertoire. Just vice versa - nothing wrong with repertoire, but quite "intermediate" level of playing. I think you have it exactly right.
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#1323113 - 12/11/09 01:55 AM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: Mark_C]
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No I didn't get an e-mail, except the regular Cliburn e-notes mail which was sent on December 8th.
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#1323275 - 12/11/09 11:18 AM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: Mark_C]
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"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." I HOPED SO. The "Rules" included quite an odd rule: The organization had the discretion to change the rules. They were free to do whatever they wanted. CF was not going to spend it's capital (i.e. an odd rule) in this case!  Wait for the real event! I thought the main thing this meant was that they would make sure the winner was worthy, by simply ignoring the votes of an unworthy would-be winner.
Life is not so simple... it's simpler! It's all about marketing! Single user could vote multiple times by clearing up "cookies" in his browser... I'm not saying it was a fraud, but technically it was possible.
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#1323354 - 12/11/09 01:46 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
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I did not get an e-mail as well, finally contacted Bob Ekelund to find out what was going on. Am trying to contact them to se why this happened.
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#1323369 - 12/11/09 02:10 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
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.... Single user could vote multiple times by clearing up "cookies" in his browser... I'm not saying it was a fraud, but technically it was possible. As I said on the other thread, now you tell me!!  I thought that in order to get a ballot, you had to give an e-mail address. Do you mean that you didn't? P.S. As I mentioned in my post on the other thread, I would hope that I wouldn't have used/abused that.
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#1324040 - 12/12/09 02:05 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
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I think I had to give an email address, though I wouldn't swear to this. Yes -- as far as I know, you did. There were two methods of voting that I was aware of, and they both seemed to require giving an e-mail, and the system "knew" if you had already done it. I figured that the people who talked about repetitive voting meant that you could fool the system into not knowing.
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#1340928 - 01/04/10 08:31 PM
Re: Cliburn YouTube Contest: Who else here is in it?
[Re: Piano*Dad]
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I did just watch the winning video and I was quite surprised. A nice performance, but that's about it.
I agree. Technically she seemed very good but I got very little emotionally from her playing.
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