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#1303593 - 11/11/09 07:42 PM Any Scott Joplin fans?
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Drop me a line if you're obsessed with Scott Joplin. eek
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#1303855 - 11/12/09 07:59 AM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: CebuKid]
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HELLO cebukid70 !
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#1303893 - 11/12/09 10:03 AM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: SJFAN]
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Isn't "Solace" one of the best pieces of music ever?!?!?!?

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#1303978 - 11/12/09 12:00 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: angelojf]
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Hi, cebukid70. That was a nice Bethena you posted in the other thread.

Howard

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#1304306 - 11/12/09 08:44 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: hv]
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Hi. Im still plodding through magnetic rag for what has seemed like forever.

I'll have it learnt one day.
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Joplin -

Maple Leaf Rag (finished)
Magnetic Rag (finished :))
The Entertainer
Stoptime Rag
Pineapple Rag
The Chrysanthemum
Reflection Rag

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#1304365 - 11/12/09 09:51 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: CebuKid]
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I'm a HUGE fan. I do mostly classical, but then again I consider Joplin "sort of" classical. We know that he studied and loved the classics; if I remember right, he particularly loved Schubert.
I've even performed Joplin sometimes but not much, because I love it better than I play it. :-)
I don't have the ability to really "swing" with it, nor to put my own variations and riffs into it. When I hear people who can REALLY do it, I realize that I'm best off keeping my Joplin playing to my own living room. smile
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#1304366 - 11/12/09 09:52 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: angelojf]
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I agree that "Solace" is beyond terrific. Especially that last part, which I think is the most famous part. It's great even just by itself (I'm often humming it to myself). But in context, as the capping-off of the piece, it's even greater.
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#1304673 - 11/13/09 10:24 AM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: Mark_C]
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I'm a Joplin fan. The movie Scott Joplin from 1977 starring Billy Dee Williams was on cable recently and I watched it for the first time. It was not what I would call a great film, but better than nothing.

I cannot play a single ragtime tune. Maybe someday? smile

Cheers!


Edited by Blue Jakester (11/13/09 10:25 AM)

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#1304843 - 11/13/09 02:23 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: Blue Jakester]
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At first I was going to say "never knew about that Joplin movie," but while I was in the middle of typing, I had a "recovered memory."
I remembered ART CARNEY in it.

I saw it on TV many years ago. I guess it was kind of forgettable except maybe for Art Carney being in it. smile

P.S. I remember that they showed him PLAYING JOPLIN a bit -- and I'd bet it really was him playing.
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#1305070 - 11/13/09 07:37 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: Bhav]
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Here's what I finished:

1.) The Entertainer (YouTube video is coming soon)

2.) Bethena - A Concert Waltz

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOcO7qFjXyE


Working on:

1.) Weeping Willow Rag (Winter 2010 project) - I am determined to finish this in 2-3 months.

2.) Gladiolus Rag (This is difficult for my current ability so we'll see).

3.) Fig Leaf

4.) Maple Leaf

I'd be happy to get at least 5 or so Joplin rags under my belt within the next 2-3 years. laugh

Good luck to you other Joplin fans out there. Joplin is why I play the piano again. laugh
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#1305124 - 11/13/09 08:49 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: MarkCannon
At first I was going to say "never knew about that Joplin movie," but while I was in the middle of typing, I had a "recovered memory."
I remembered ART CARNEY in it.

I saw it on TV many years ago. I guess it was kind of forgettable except maybe for Art Carney being in it. smile

P.S. I remember that they showed him PLAYING JOPLIN a bit -- and I'd bet it really was him playing.

I don't know who was doing the actual piano playing, but there was a lot of it and it was quite good.

There was a scene where they were having a "battle of the bands" type piano competition which was very good.

Yes, Carney was great in the film. I thought the acting was all good. The film was just not as well done as it could have been, IMO. Probably on a relatively small budget and short shoot schedule ... just felt limited or suppressed.

I'd love to see the film made today with quality big name actors, producers, director and ample budget. I doubt that will ever happen. smile


Edited by Blue Jakester (11/13/09 08:51 PM)

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#1305147 - 11/13/09 09:29 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: Blue Jakester]
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I LOVE Scott Joplin and can play Maple Leaf Rag, Solace, parts of Pineapple Rag and Easy Winners, and The Entertainer (mostly my own arrangement of it). smile

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#1305166 - 11/13/09 10:05 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: Elssa]
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I'm impressed by anybody who can do their own arrangement of anything.....
As I said, I can do sort of OK playing "the notes" of Joplin, but forget about doing my own thing with it.
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#1305191 - 11/13/09 11:12 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: CebuKid]
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Nice Bethena! I love that song. There aren't many of us here. Pinao World seems to be populated mostly by fans of jazz and classical.

Bhav, where are you on magnetic rag? A was difficult for me, B was relatively easy, and now C is turning out to be very tough in places. D is mostly black keys, so I am intimidated just looking at it. But it is going to be worth all the effort!

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#1305831 - 11/15/09 02:12 AM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: Glock fan]
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Thanks for the Scott Joplin Solace chaps via IMSLP ...
however, in tackling the first page (of 4) somebody "turned out the lights" to the LH notes to measures 6 and 7 ... but all was not lost ... in discovering that measures 13-16 are a repeat of
m 5-8 ... here’s page one of Solace to tempt any newcomers.

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#1313441 - 11/27/09 04:35 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: Glock fan]
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Originally Posted By: Glock fan
Nice Bethena! I love that song. There aren't many of us here. Pinao World seems to be populated mostly by fans of jazz and classical.

Bhav, where are you on magnetic rag? A was difficult for me, B was relatively easy, and now C is turning out to be very tough in places. D is mostly black keys, so I am intimidated just looking at it. But it is going to be worth all the effort!


I just completed it, can play it all from memory now, but need to tidy up the ending bars of the 4th section and the finishing bar.

It took me a whole year to learn Maple Leaf and Magnetic Rag, thanks to a compressed ulnar nerve frown. But its getting a lot better and my pinky fingers are supple and strong now.

Im doing The Chrysanthemum next because its easier than the others, and will keep on practicing to improve my playing and mistakes. I still make a few mistakes when playing each piece, so wont be recording them yet.


Edited by Bhav (11/27/09 04:41 PM)
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Currently working on:

Joplin -

Maple Leaf Rag (finished)
Magnetic Rag (finished :))
The Entertainer
Stoptime Rag
Pineapple Rag
The Chrysanthemum
Reflection Rag

- Lots of rags to learn frown.

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#1314119 - 11/28/09 10:47 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: Bhav]
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Originally Posted By: Bhav
Originally Posted By: Glock fan
Nice Bethena! I love that song. There aren't many of us here. Pinao World seems to be populated mostly by fans of jazz and classical.

Bhav, where are you on magnetic rag? A was difficult for me, B was relatively easy, and now C is turning out to be very tough in places. D is mostly black keys, so I am intimidated just looking at it. But it is going to be worth all the effort!


I just completed it, can play it all from memory now, but need to tidy up the ending bars of the 4th section and the finishing bar.

It took me a whole year to learn Maple Leaf and Magnetic Rag, thanks to a compressed ulnar nerve frown. But its getting a lot better and my pinky fingers are supple and strong now.

Im doing The Chrysanthemum next because its easier than the others, and will keep on practicing to improve my playing and mistakes. I still make a few mistakes when playing each piece, so wont be recording them yet.


Congratulations! In my book it is a fine accomplishment to learn two high quality Joplin rags in a year. I have memorized the third verse of Magnetic, but still cannot play through the tough spots yet. After a few false starts I have decided not to begin the 4th verse until I am fluent in the 3d as it is hard for me to learn them at the same time due to the different keys.

The Chrysanthemum is a lovely song, and one you don't hear too often.

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#1314130 - 11/28/09 11:02 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: Glock fan]
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Originally Posted By: Glock fan
....The Chrysanthemum is a lovely song, and one you don't hear too often.

I love it too, and you're right that we don't hear it often.
In fact I had to look it up to remind myself 'which one' it is. smile

BTW......I've never thought it was particularly easier than most of the other Joplin rags.

P.S. Right now I'm listening to this version on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsgJd0YikEg
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#1314252 - 11/29/09 07:54 AM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: Mark_C]
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Its easier than some others because much of the right hand is made up of single notes.

I also played through the first two parts of pineapple Rag's right hand in two days a few months ago with around 15 minutes of reading time for each section, being able to mostly play it by ear helps me a lot smile.

Im doing Chrysanthemum first and then Pineapple.

I also picked out reflection rag because it is rarely played, as is stoptime rag, so think I will do those before the entertainer, but all of that will take a very long time to learn.

Ever since I started playing, Ive always learnt just two pieces from score a year, ive never really managed any faster.

The fourth section of Magnetic rag is what took me the longest to learn, around 8-12 weeks I were practicing it for, but I can play it now while having to slow down for the end bars.


Edited by Bhav (11/29/09 08:01 AM)
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Currently working on:

Joplin -

Maple Leaf Rag (finished)
Magnetic Rag (finished :))
The Entertainer
Stoptime Rag
Pineapple Rag
The Chrysanthemum
Reflection Rag

- Lots of rags to learn frown.

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#1314497 - 11/29/09 02:51 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: Bhav]
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Pine Apple Rag IMO is one of the greatest little piano pieces ever written. It's my favorite rag and one of the things I often play when I'm asked to "play something."
I love the piece. thumb
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#1314552 - 11/29/09 04:08 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: Mark_C]
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Yea, Pineapple rag is sooooo awesome to hear. I cant wait untill I can play it, it will definately be my show off piece too once its done smile.
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Currently working on:

Joplin -

Maple Leaf Rag (finished)
Magnetic Rag (finished :))
The Entertainer
Stoptime Rag
Pineapple Rag
The Chrysanthemum
Reflection Rag

- Lots of rags to learn frown.

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#1314569 - 11/29/09 04:25 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: Bhav]
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Originally Posted By: Bhav
Yea, Pineapple rag is sooooo awesome to hear. I cant wait untill I can play it, it will definitely be my show off piece too once its done smile.

It's a GREAT "show-off" piece, in many ways, including the great way that the feeling and excitement build. That next-to-last section (in E-flat) is a wonderful pull-back before the final burst. I view the piece as being almost Liszt-like in its excitement and exhilaration.
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#1314932 - 11/30/09 08:14 AM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: Mark_C]
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anybody here can play the "stoptime rag" completely ?
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#1314933 - 11/30/09 08:15 AM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: SJFAN]
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Tell us, all, do you enjoy "peacherine rag" ?
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#1315141 - 11/30/09 02:16 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: SJFAN]
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Originally Posted By: SJFAN
anybody here can play the "stoptime rag" completely ?

I've read through it completely many times but I'm not sure we should call that "playing" it completely. ha

I mean, I got the notes and tempo and stuff......

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#1315146 - 11/30/09 02:22 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: SJFAN]
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.....and I know that Peacherine has been one of my favorites too but to tell the truth I have to go back to see which one that is.... smile

(I THINK I know which one.....we'll see......)

[goes to check]

.....not the one I thought, but indeed it's one of my favorites.
All the themes are GEMS. I think especially the 2nd theme is very creative and wonderful in its simplicity. Just as the next theme is creative and wonderful in its complexity.
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#1315188 - 11/30/09 03:03 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: CebuKid]
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I still havnt heard a full performance of Stoptime either, except for a 2 man performance on youtube with each person playing each line.

It will be a while before I get around to it, its the 5th piece I want to learn in order of personal preferance.

I think I'll have a read through the score now because I feel like it smile.


Edited by Bhav (11/30/09 03:07 PM)
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Currently working on:

Joplin -

Maple Leaf Rag (finished)
Magnetic Rag (finished :))
The Entertainer
Stoptime Rag
Pineapple Rag
The Chrysanthemum
Reflection Rag

- Lots of rags to learn frown.

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#1315858 - 12/01/09 12:26 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: CebuKid]
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I recorded a performance of Maple Leaf Rag, but made a few mistakes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=borNgH2SIwU
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Currently working on:

Joplin -

Maple Leaf Rag (finished)
Magnetic Rag (finished :))
The Entertainer
Stoptime Rag
Pineapple Rag
The Chrysanthemum
Reflection Rag

- Lots of rags to learn frown.

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#1316362 - 12/01/09 11:46 PM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: Bhav]
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Originally Posted By: Bhav
I recorded a performance of Maple Leaf Rag, but made a few mistakes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=borNgH2SIwU



I've subscribed to you YouTube channel. Keep up the good work, and please post more of your Joplin pieces. smile
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#1316441 - 12/02/09 01:58 AM Re: Any Scott Joplin fans? [Re: CebuKid]
Bhav Offline
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My stupid wrist was fine for a long time, so a few days ago I stated using my PC mouse again with a full day of video gaming and it got compressed again frown.

Its fine when playing the Piano, just using the PC ruins it still.
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Currently working on:

Joplin -

Maple Leaf Rag (finished)
Magnetic Rag (finished :))
The Entertainer
Stoptime Rag
Pineapple Rag
The Chrysanthemum
Reflection Rag

- Lots of rags to learn frown.

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