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#1305549 - 11/14/09 07:11 PM Re: Passionate and intense pieces? [Re: Rach3PianoS139]
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I'm presently quite astounded that no one has mentioned Chopin yet. :P

Here's a few for you:

Prelude Op. 28 No. 24
Piano Sonata No. 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihjDQbMTZIo
Ballade No. 2 (it's very calm at first, but sets up quite an interesting contrast eventually... I guarantee that the last two minutes will satisfy you, at least) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsoUIBcl7iw

I personally like Arrau's version of the preludes the best (but they aren't on YouTube), and Zimerman/Ashkenazy for the sonata. As for the four Ballades, Zimerman is unparalleled.

Some other intense pieces that may or may not exactly meet your criteria are a few of Chopin's etudes (10/1, 10/4, 10/12, 25/11, 25/12 come to mind), the first movements of both his concertos, and Liszt's TE Nos. 4, 8, and 12, and Liszt's Totentanz.

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#1305553 - 11/14/09 07:22 PM Re: Passionate and intense pieces? [Re: babama]
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I only just recently discovered Sofronitsky (via youtube, plus via learning more about Scriabin ......you probably know that Sofronitsky married his daughter). I'd never heard of him before.
And yes, he's extraordinary.
I found a fantastic recording by him of the 9th sonata, and it sounds probably even weirder than it was supposed to smile because (I'm pretty sure) they played back the master too slow, so THE PITCH IS LOW!! (by about a full quarter-tone)
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#1305555 - 11/14/09 07:25 PM Re: Passionate and intense pieces? [Re: Juishi]
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Yup -- the 2nd movement of the Brahms 2nd concerto absolutely also belongs in any discussion of "passionate and intense."

BTW.......off the subject, but did you ever realize.....
The main theme of the 1st mvt fits perfectly to the words:
"This.....is.....Brahms'......se-cond-con-cer.........to......"

And that's not all. smile
The main theme of the FIRST concerto fits perfectly with:
"THIS........IS.........THE...FIRST...ONE!" ha
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#1305558 - 11/14/09 07:28 PM Re: Passionate and intense pieces? [Re: Fredil]
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Yes, it's pretty glaring that nobody had mentioned Chopin. And I'd have to guess that it's because of that word "INTENSE."
It's not that Chopin isn't intense, just that it's not one of the main things we associate with him.

If we had to single out some Chopin pieces......good job mentioning that prelude (#24).
Also how about the 16th prelude.
And also, good job mentioning the 2nd sonata -- through and through.

I'd add the 4th Ballade and the F# minor Polonaise.
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#1306240 - 11/15/09 07:11 PM Re: Passionate and intense pieces? [Re: Mark_C]
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Rachmaninoff's unique performance of his "Elegie"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL9PX4VkN4I

Horowitz playing Liszt's "Funerailles"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRNy4pUTgWQ

However my favourite recording of the Funerailles is this recording by Raffaele Mani
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaPW_4K-_8M

Liszt's Bm sonata
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOSIlXnM7Co

Horowitz playing Liszt's Second Ballade
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G42K59bQqg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9436krGxzr4&feature=related

Rach's Etude tableaux 39 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh-iSmudNgA

Brahmes F minor Sonata, especially first movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha2ZbUPFzV8&feature=related

Rach's G minor prelude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXU7I_Yyi2Y

Rach's C# minor prelude
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtuMVBLEWJU&feature=related

These jumped out at me, though there are so many more.


Edited by nextbigthingg (11/15/09 08:04 PM)

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#1307475 - 11/17/09 09:46 PM Re: Passionate and intense pieces? [Re: pianojosh23]
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Alkan's 3rd Souvenir (Morte)!!!

Here is Marc-Andre Hamelin's recording:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E31_ogoKhVY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LKTP28iDig&feature=related

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#1307506 - 11/17/09 10:31 PM Re: Passionate and intense pieces? [Re: patoapaez]
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.....and if we're talking Alkan, under the heading of "passionate and intense" maybe we should also mention the 1st movement of the "Symphonie" for solo piano.
Hamelin (of course) does that piece too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMPk6ZHMP...PL&index=42
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#1307512 - 11/17/09 10:46 PM Re: Passionate and intense pieces? [Re: Mark_C]
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I just noticed:

Quote:
Don't expect me to be sane, I'm playing Scriabin

I laughed out loud. Thanks for making my day. :P

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#1307534 - 11/17/09 11:34 PM Re: Passionate and intense pieces? [Re: Fredil]
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Originally Posted By: Fredil
I just noticed:
Quote:
Don't expect me to be sane, I'm playing Scriabin

I laughed out loud. Thanks for making my day. :P

Thanks much! smile I'm pretty new here and you're the first one who has commented on it.
It always makes my day too. ha
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#1307535 - 11/17/09 11:36 PM Re: Passionate and intense pieces? [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: MarkCannon

And that's not all. smile
The main theme of the FIRST concerto fits perfectly with:
"THIS........IS.........THE...FIRST...ONE!" ha

Maybe not such an unusual occurrence as you might think. wink Listen to the opening theme of Elgar's Enigma Variations: Ed-ward EL-gar. Perhaps not surprising considering the very cryptic nature of so much of his music.
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#1307546 - 11/18/09 12:06 AM Re: Passionate and intense pieces? [Re: argerichfan]
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Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Originally Posted By: MarkCannon

And that's not all. smile
The main theme of the FIRST concerto fits perfectly with:
"THIS........IS.........THE...FIRST...ONE!" ha

Maybe not such an unusual occurrence as you might think. wink Listen to the opening theme of Elgar's Enigma Variations: Ed-ward EL-gar. Perhaps not surprising considering the very cryptic nature of so much of his music.

Do you mean you're figuring that Brahms purposely did a theme that fit those words? That's not what I was thinking......

(I imagine you are figuring pretty much that Elgar did it on purpose, at least "subconsciously.")
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#1307698 - 11/18/09 10:21 AM Re: Passionate and intense pieces? [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: MarkCannon

Do you mean you're figuring that Brahms purposely did a theme that fit those words? That's not what I was thinking......

No, I wasn't thinking that at all- I'm sure Brahms had better things to do! I just found it amusing how you matched words up with the opening of the two concertos.
Quote:
I imagine you are figuring pretty much that Elgar did it on purpose, at least "subconsciously."

As Elgar came up with his theme when casually improvising at the piano one evening -and long before he thought of writing a composition dedicated to 'my friends pictured within'- I would say it was very subconscious.
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#1307790 - 11/18/09 01:06 PM Re: Passionate and intense pieces? [Re: argerichfan]
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I'd probably say that, among Chopin's opera, the Grand Polonaise Brillante Op 22 and the Fantasie Op 49 are among the most passionate pieces (not to mention my favorites). Hopefully Michelangeli can reassure you of this...

Grand Polonaise Brillante:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfMdU0pSqXc

Fantasie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx6oawcsIkI
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#1307807 - 11/18/09 01:37 PM Re: Passionate and intense pieces? [Re: akonow]
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for something a bit less 'classical'

Hana-Bi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plwNHYvyWA4

Piano piece by Japanese film composer Joe Hisaishi
I just like the piece for what it is. I'm learning it right now.


Edited by babama (11/18/09 01:39 PM)

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#1307815 - 11/18/09 02:00 PM Re: Passionate and intense pieces? [Re: akonow]
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.....wherein we are reminded that the plural of opus is "opera." :-)
(I think we rarely actually see it that way.....)
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#1307819 - 11/18/09 02:11 PM Re: Passionate and intense pieces? [Re: Mark_C]
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Dohnanyi's fourth etude... It is one of the most intense pieces that I have ever heard (and had the pleasure of learning). It has one melody in the middle that might be the most beautiful and intense melody that I have ever heard. Definitely give it a listen
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