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#1306327 - 11/15/09 10:13 PM Variable Damper Pedal Depth
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I bought a Yamaha CLP-340 because it has a "half-pedal" function. I need this for playing Mozart and Debussy (amongst others) where a full damper pedal would make the sound too thick.

My question is: are there other digital pianos that have multiple damping positions, i.e. 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4 pedalling?

Thanks.

Michael

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#1306452 - 11/16/09 07:38 AM Re: Variable Damper Pedal Depth [Re: Mike86]
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I don't know about the 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4 pedaling positions, but the Casio Privia line do support half-pedalling.
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#1306470 - 11/16/09 08:39 AM Re: Variable Damper Pedal Depth [Re: marimorimo]
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mike,

I have not seen any DP's that respond to fractional pedaling beyond half pedal. Even the Avant Grand and V-Piano only supports half pedaling.

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#1306672 - 11/16/09 02:51 PM Re: Variable Damper Pedal Depth [Re: DragonPianoPlayer]
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Hmmm, my first Roland was a KR-377 and my present one is a KR-7. They produce damper pedal values from zero to 127 (all 128 MIDI steps).

And I was under the impression that the V-Piano did too; guess I'd better check before investing in it.

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#1306753 - 11/16/09 04:58 PM Re: Variable Damper Pedal Depth [Re: Glenn NK]
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Glenn NK, I believe the pedals found on modern day digital pianos utilise optical sensors, allowing 128 discreet values.

However, despite being able to recognise these values, the digital piano may only adjust the sound within a fixed range of values (e.g. 0, 0-64, 65-127).

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#1306763 - 11/16/09 05:11 PM Re: Variable Damper Pedal Depth [Re: Kawai James]
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As far as I know, the pedals are potentiometer based. I've never seen one that is optical - if there were, it would need power, which it would most likely not be able to get from a TRS jack.

I checked the V-Piano and Yamaha Avant Grand, they both only recognize half pedal. I thought the Avant Grand would from discription on the site, but when you look in the manual it clearly states only half pedal.

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#1306788 - 11/16/09 05:50 PM Re: Variable Damper Pedal Depth [Re: Kawai James]
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James:

Listening to the effect as I use the pedal (particularly at an ending), It seems to read and utilize the full range.

Glenn

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#1306801 - 11/16/09 06:07 PM Re: Variable Damper Pedal Depth [Re: Mike86]
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Originally Posted By: mike51028
I bought a Yamaha CLP-340 because it has a "half-pedal" function....are there other digital pianos that have multiple damping positions, i.e. 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4 pedalling?


Certainly there are software "virtual pianos" (pianoteq) that accept a continuous pedal position. (technically that would be in increments of 1/128ths, not actually continous) You can control the effect curve of the pedal as well as the mechanical noises they make.

That you'd do is connect the CLP340 to a computer and then buy a MIDI pedal and connect that to the computer too.

Now days the best sound is from computer hosted simulations or samples. A midi pedal is a somewhat complex device that would have to have it's own very tiny computer inside, not just a sensor



Edited by ChrisA (11/16/09 06:09 PM)

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