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#1307445 - 11/17/09 08:42 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: pianonewb]
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Originally Posted By: pianonewb
Thank you to all who commented. About the robe,it was closed, for Pete's sake blush. What do you take me for? smile And HomeInMyShoes, definately no speed-os.
TTigg, I'll probably show my ignoance here, but who is Scott Glen?


Scott Glen


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(edit) There are many things Scott's been in but this is the quickest clip I could find..


Edited by TTigg (11/17/09 08:48 PM)
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#1307450 - 11/17/09 08:46 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: TTigg]
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Originally Posted By: Carl Mc

61. TTigg / Steve C - Glasgow Love Theme
Nice job Steve. As you continue to grow, so does the complexity and interpretation of your music. Keep it up!

Thanks for the kind comments Carl. I am just loving this journey but I tell ya (I know I've said it before) I would be no where NEAR as good or as far advanced if it were not for MOYD & this place thumb

Originally Posted By: Peyton

#61... Steve... I'm not a big fan of "strings", generally just prefer to hear the piece played as piano but you did a very good job. Very lovely.

Thanks Payton. Yep I hear you and I actually much prefer this song with just reg piano. My Knabe's needs a tune so I will re-do the video once that's occurred. I also left myself pressed for time and kind of rushed this to get it in.

Originally Posted By: jazzyprof

61. TTigg / Steve C - Glasgow Love Theme I see you hired an orchestra to back you up!:) Well done!

laugh Thanks
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#1307458 - 11/17/09 09:16 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: Strings & Wood]
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Originally Posted By: Carl Mc
Thanks, it is so clear it sounds like I am on the inside of your piano. I love the sustain and harmonic overtones of your piano.
BTW... the new medal is a nice touch and I am sure worthy laugh


Haha. Yes most people have more control over shame than me so I'll just come out and say it. I have an INCREDIBLE piano!. Remember it's a 7 foot Mason & Hamlin BB grand. It can make anyone sound great. Really!

I swear I could plunk down a single noted mary had a little lamb and it would sound incredible. The Mason & Hamlins are built like tanks and their resonating capabilities are just nuts. All I have to do is just hit the right notes. It will do the rest. I'm not kidding. Go play one and you'll see. A single note can give you goosebumps.


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#1307468 - 11/17/09 09:34 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: TTigg]
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Congratulations to everyone who submitted to the 16th ABF Recital. I would like to thank Monica and Mati for all their time and effort is making this work for so many of us. This was my first time recording, and they were both extremely helpful. Thanks also to my husband the computer whiz. I didn't even consider food while I was hitting the RED DOT, that is certainly better than you know what. Pasta, Peanut butter and jelly, maybe I'll try some snakcs while hitting the RED DOT to calm me down. I'm staring at the beginning and will get to No. 66 ina few takes. thumb

No.1 Jazzyproof - Great job, Chopin is one of my favorite and not easy. Most of the Nocturnes are very demanding, and I appreciate all the work that goes into your performnace. Also, your Steinway rocks!

No.2 dannyluxmel - Very lovely piece, played well. I would like to find the sheet music.

No. 3 epf - Enjoyed your piece. I was not familiar with his works. Great job.

No. 4 Ode2Joy. You can tell you like Mozart, and ewll done. I'm still trying to master his famous Sonata I K545.

No. 5 Ken - Bethoven German Dance. Pleasure to listen your Bethoven Dance.

No. 6 - Super Hunky - Cristofori's Dream. Very beautiful melody. Settle down, you did a great job. Thanks for introducing me to David Lanz.

No. 7 True Beginner - Autum River. Nice composition. What clunkers?

No. 8 Peyton - Chopin Nocturne N0.1 Bb Minor. What can I say, except Bravo!. I am a lover of his Nocture's especially this one and several others. You did a great job with the dymanics and tempo.

No. 9 Sam Smith - Your Yami sounds Great, and you played the Mendelssohn beautifully.

No. 10 Kokmo 61 Piano Sonata No. 8 . Hope you can share this piece with us on your Estonia. The Yamaha 250 does not do justice to your playing. Great job.

No. 11 Flying Fingers - Chopin Noturne No. 20. I bet I hit the Red DOt more times. Beautifully played. I hope to start working on a Chopin Nocture next year.

No. 12 Glen R Wow for 6 months you have accomplished a great deal. Enjoyed hearing you.

No. 13 Home In My Shoes. Satie is not easy to play well. Your dymamics were great, and your BURP is PARDONED!

To be continued, I will get the No. 14 - 30 later.
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#1307508 - 11/17/09 10:35 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: Waltz]
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Originally Posted By: Waltz
CarlMC:

I couldn't imagine being more impressed! You played that at a much higher level than most people with 18 mos. experience (myself included). Great job!




Thanks for listening Waltz. I did have almost two years of instruction back when the fingers were a bit more nimble!
With the progress you have made over the past year I was surprised to not see your participation.
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#1307520 - 11/17/09 11:12 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: Strings & Wood]
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TTigg, Mark…, Piano Again, CMohr, epf, Mr. super-hunky, Peyton, rustyfingers, TX-Dennis, Ode2Joy, EJR, jazzwee, Bunneh, Carl Mc, salzdt, thank you all so much for your kind comments.

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Beautiful -- I don't hear the nerves. Perhaps there could be more dynamic contrast (especially more on the fortes)?

Piano Again, I know what you mean about the fortes. I’m working on that.

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This was well done. I thought I heard a couple of synchronization problems with the right hand. A couple of wrong notes and the few hesitations were also noted. Overall, though, this was well done. Thanks for submitting it!

epf, the lack of synchronization that you noticed…would that be at 2:34? That was just one of my bloopers. Or was it during the runs?

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#11. Flyingfroggy... Another favorite Chopin nocturne of mine. Nicely played. I like that you used no pedal at the beginning (wish I had known that when I recorded it). The only suggestion I might make would be to honor the ppp marking at measure 19 and the sotto voce on 23. I think it needs to be pretty soft. Great playing. Thanks.

Peyton, I actually did use the pedal in the first measures. I pedaled at every chord change. Also, measure 19 (actually measure 21 in my edition; there seem to be several different editions of this nocturne floating around!) indicates p, although I’ve seen it marked pp in another edition. Although I do agree with you, I probably should play it a little softer.

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Stunningly beautiful and you play it so well. My Schimmel longs for such a partner!

Carl Mc, I listened to your performance of Moonlight Sonata again, and I think the quality of your recording is better than mine. Where do you place your Zoom H2 on your Schimmel and what settings do you use? BTW, I hadn’t realized the first time I listened that you only have 18 months of experience. You did very well on a piece that I think is much more difficult than it appears to be. Nice job.

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No. 11 Flying Fingers - Chopin Noturne No. 20. I bet I hit the Red DOt more times. Beautifully played. I hope to start working on a Chopin Nocture next year.

salzdt, I must say, I like what you renamed me!! wink
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#1307608 - 11/18/09 04:58 AM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: flyingfroggy]
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Finally coming down the back stretch to finish up listening to the recital pieces. I just have to say that I think this was the best batch of recital pieces (in the recital's I've listened to all of) yet. Such talented and kind people on this board. Now I just have to go back and check the comments a little more carefully.

Congratulations everyone on surviving the red dot and hopefully everyone has started working on next recital's piece.

On to the last set of comments. I really did enjoy everyone's playing. So much great stuff.

05. Ken. - German Dance in A Major, WoO.13, No. 11
A delightful way to start this morning.

59. LisztAddict - Praeludium BWV 999 in C minor
You can never go wrong with pizza. Some more wonderful Bach. Not sure about the pedal. I'd like to hear the other one, but it was nicely played. I really need to work on my Baroque some more. I missing so much great music.

01. jazzyprof - Nocturne op.48 no.1
It wasn't butchered. It could have used a little softer touch in places and maybe a bit more confidence in places for the tempo. But you should be proud of the result, there's a lot of really good stuff in there and it was very enjoyable to listen to.

28. Frotz (Brian) - Notturno (Op.54 No.4)
Haha, family interruptions. I hate it when I'm just midpoint in a difficult section and you hear that call and you crash and burn badly. You sound way more polished than 4.5 years. I might have to start looking t some Grieg. That was a very enjoyable piece.

20. salzdt - Kupelwieser Waltz
Bluppers are perfectly acceptable to me. I didn't hear very many and the playing was quite nice.

30. Copper - Air
Short and sweet and enjoyable. Good playing in this. We don't hear a lot of Purcell around here. We should hear more.

46. bluekeys - Invention #4
I'm always transported to the 80s when I hear these. Don't know why. Maybe it was those Commodore commercials or that whole switched on Bach fad. Nicely played. I thought the trill was handled pretty well.

11. flyingfroggy - Nocturne #20 in C# minor (posth.)
A wonderful piece with some wonderful playing. So much good stuff going on in there I won't take marks off for an edit.

23. Schubertian - Hungarian Melody (D817)
Lively. I thought your playing was quite good (we are generally our own worst critics). Some nice dynamics. Maybe the staccatos could have been a bit quicker, but it sounds quite triky in places and you handled it well.

38. 1WeekPlayer - Minuet in F major BWV Anh 113 (Notebook for Anna Magdalena Bach)
I love the little pieces out of the Anna Magdalena collection. I don't think this one was in the selections book I have here. Nice job on this. I can almost never get through one of these without a gigantic brain pause. I just can't sing both lines in my head. Curse you Bach. smile

65. Jordy - A Brighter Day
Wonderful piece. Nice playing of your own composition.

40. CMohr - Mazurka op.67 no. 3
I've worked on this one a bit over the years. I never got a few places ironed out. Those mordent's (term?) in the right hand chords are a bear to work out. Good job.

62. steveMac - Prelude Op. 28 No. 7
I love this piece. I've never got that gigantic chord worked out so its second nature. Nicely done and welcome to the wonderful world of Chopin.

29. Monica K. - Quel Che Resta
Well Monica, you're the last one out of the hat. I think this is my favourite of the Einaudi's I've been exposed to. The opening is reminding me of some of Philip Glass. Sounded like a bear to keep the hands doing the right things in this one. Nicely tackled, your Einaudi's are always worth the listen.

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#1307611 - 11/18/09 05:04 AM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: Strings & Wood]
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Originally Posted By: Carl Mc
47. John Frank - Leaves on the Seine
JF, very nice. I think you are well connected to this piece and convey the necessary reflection and emotion, it is not a path for the young and foolish.



One of the more unusual, interesting and perceptive comments on my piece and performance - well connected? Yes, I was - I love this piece passionately and worked long and hard to make it my own - thanks very much Carl for this highly astute observation, perhaps the highest compliment for a performer - not a path for the young and foolish? - no, if you mean that you have to be a worn out, world-weary, slightly cynical old geezer to bring to his piece the necessary reflection and emotion it requires and deserves, then you're correct and I qualify. smile

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#1307648 - 11/18/09 08:41 AM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: TTigg]
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Oh, that Scott Glen . The name was familiar, but I was thinking musician, not actor. Glen is a wonderful actor, and can be absolutely hilarious, as would the scenario you descibed. laugh

Originally Posted By: TTigg
34. pianonewb - God on the Mountain[/b]
Nicely played. OK so to “add” to your side note I think you kind of sound like Scott Glen so now I have the image of Scott Glen in his robe and slippers playing and singing (lol)


Edited by pianonewb (11/18/09 08:42 AM)
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#1307687 - 11/18/09 10:07 AM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: pianonewb]
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22. cscl - Kuhlau Sonatina Op. 55, No. 2, I-II

Could be an interesting piece with a little polishing - good start.

23. Schubertian - Hungarian Melody (D817)

Delightful piece well played - why do you hate your recording? Suave isn't everything and a little frantic never hurt anyone.

24. kawaigirl1 - Like the wind

Glad you kicked your butt (not easy to do!) to get this recorded - lovely piece nicely played.

More to follow...

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#1307696 - 11/18/09 10:20 AM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: flyingfroggy]
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Where do you place your Zoom H2 on your Schimmel and what settings do you use?


Funny you should ask...
I usually prefer the position and set up that MSH uses, which he describes in a few post up from here.
I had a most difficult time trying to settle on a set-up for this recording and must have tried about a dozen variations.
This was the best for what I wanted.
I used a 4 channel(this is the front speaker track), mid gain, with the wind sock over the mike and placed the Zoom 2 on the plate, inside of the piano at G4 pin/ upper. I remove the music rack, closed the lid, but folded back and still needed a very light left (sometimes not so light) frown left hand to keep the bass in control.
This will probably only work for softly played music, otherwise it will distort and good luck trying to slip a flub by the Zoom in this position!


Edited by Carl Mc (11/18/09 10:42 AM)
Edit Reason: Additional thought.
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#1307722 - 11/18/09 11:17 AM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: Strings & Wood]
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First off, just want to say thanks to everyone who is involved with putting together this recital. It's fantastically done and very much appreciated.

Thanks for the comments on my piece. Dennis, there was no reverb, just poor pedaling as was pointed out by Piano Again. It is my first pedaling piece so it's something I'll be looking to improve.

While I'm going to be commenting on all the pieces in this recital, they will not be technical, i am too inexperienced to offer that, so my apologies in advance. I do plan on continuing to take part in these recitals and hope to one day to be able to offer more technical feedback. In the meantime, I'd just like to say it's a real privilege to be part of these recitals, so many talented musicians and a real inspiration. Thank you.

01. jazzyprof - Nocturne op.48 no.1
No 1 on the list and already my socks are blown off. Great playing.

02. dannylux / Mel - Bersagliera
I really liked this, nice piece of music and very well played.

03. epf - Prelude No. 16 in Db Major
I didn't recognize the title but recognized the piece and it was just recently i heard it somewhere. It's beautiful and played very well. On my list of future pieces to learn. Thanks.

04. Ode2Joy - Piano Sonata in C, K330 Andante cantabile (2nd movement)
Excellent So Cal, it was really easy to listen to you playing this piece.

05. Ken. - German Dance in A Major, WoO.13, No. 11
Thumbs up from me Ken. Really enjoyed this.

06. Mr Super-Hunky - Cristofori's Dream
I've never heard this before but i really like it, had to listen twice. Sounded like it was played perfectly to me. Very enjoyable.

07. TrueBeginner - Autumn River
A really niece composition TrueBeginner. It's great to hear original pieces like this. Well done.

08. Peyton - Nocturne in Bflat Minor Op.9.1
Peyton, i'm grinning after listening to that. Superb piece of music played beautifully.

09. Sam Smith - Song Without Words, Opus 19/4
Sam Smith, just excellent, nothing more i can say on this.

10. kokomo61 - Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor, Op. 13 Adagio Cantabile
One of my favorite pieces of music that i'm attempting now. So it was a real pleasure to hear this, well played and thanks for the inspiration.
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#1307738 - 11/18/09 11:41 AM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: steveMac]
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Flying froggy... WELL... you pedaled it very subtly then! It sounded perfect. smile

Wow, your measure 22 is marked p? Mine is ppp. Go figure? But I do like it very soft there.


Edited by Peyton (11/18/09 11:47 AM)
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#1307782 - 11/18/09 12:59 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: Peyton]
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5 more...

10. kokomo61 - Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor, Op. 13 Adagio Cantabile
Great performance!! Glad you made it to the recital despite the efforts of your iMAc to sabotage!! It’s always happens when you least expect it.

11. flyingfroggy - Nocturne #20 in C# minor (posth.)
Great performance!! I hope one day I can pull off something from Chopin, until then at least I am able to enjoy other’s performances.

12. Glen R. - Waltz (Op. 39, No. 15)
Nicely played!! Good rhythm, nice touch. Very eloquent. For only 6 months you’re definitely off to an awesome start. Keep it up and don’t forget to eat, I man’s gotta eat!!

13. HomeInMyShoes (HIMS, Homey, Home, Aaron) - Trois Gnossiennes
Very interesting pieces, sophisticated but slightly demented, at least those are some of the feeling they invoke in me. The first one reminds me of a game I played back in the day called Shadow Gate. Well played!!

14. Kalai1/Chris - Leo O Kapo (voice of the night)
Beautiful composition and nicely played. Ummmmm…, YES!!! Yes you can definitely say you can play piano!! Not only that, you can write too!!! Can’t wait ot hear more of your comps.

15. Mar_red - Stranger in Paradise & Love Letters (medley)
Not familiar with either song, but it sounds like you did a great job arranging and playing theses. Even though it was in the description, the scat voices caught me off guard (not in a bad way) but I think it was a nice way to end it. Don’t worry, I don’t think the ABF Recital police are going to mind!! wink

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#1307829 - 11/18/09 02:33 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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My second batch of comments. I usually just comment on the classical pieces, but don't feel slighted - I listen to them all.

33. ten left thumbs - Clair de Lune Funny, you don't sound like you have ten left thumbs. Smooth and musical. I think you captured the mood of his piece very well.

35. Jillian - Morning Prelude Jillian, it's so great of you to contribute to our recital. Your playing was great. Isn't it fun to use the pedal? Hope you play in the next recital too.

36. Always Wanted to Play Piano - Sonatina Op.36 No.1 in C major - 1: Spritoso Excellent job for someone with only two year's experience. Consistency in temp will come.

38. 1WeekPlayer - Minuet in F major BWV Anh 113 (Notebook for Anna Magdalena Bach) You need to change your name to 1YearPlayer. This was great for someone with only one year's experience.

39. Piano Again - Prelude and Fugue in C sharp major, Well-Tempered Clavier Book I The best performance in this recital, IMHO. Incredibly difficult pieces, and you performed them with confidence and great attention to detail. And the trills were excellent...

40. CMohr - Mazurka op.67 no. 3 You're doing great for only 3 1/2 months of lessons. Nice job with the tempo too - you have a great feel for this piece.

41. grotrianer - La plus que lente I have never heard this waltz, thanks for contributing it. I loved your tempo and dynamic changes. And your touch in the changes from legato to staccato. Very nice job.

43. Yamaha G3 & P-80 Mike White - Military Polonaise Op 40. No. 1 It may be above your head but you did an admirable job with it, playing it with confidence.

45. joangolfing - Italian Concerto (Presto movement) That is not too slow a tempo, in fact, I think that speed makes the different voices clearer than a faster speed. Excellent job.

46. bluekeys - Invention #4 Oh, the one with the trills! You showed great courage in tackling this one, and you did an excellent job - wish I could play this one that well.

48. TX-Dennis (Dennis Turner) - Suicide Is Painless The "Mash" theme - loved it!

49. Undone - Theme from “The Unfinished Symphony” Nice dynamics, and you brought out the theme well above the left hand.

52. EJR (Elwyn) - "Ich ruf', zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ" [I call on Thee, Lord] BWV 639 I remember the Bach/Busoni you did in the last recital. I think I like this one better. Now you've got me curious, I need to look up some of these transcriptions. Very nice job. I'm very impressed with your web page too - that's some impressive record keeping.

54. MaryBee - Reverie Nice control of dynamics in the first section, and I liked the change in touch in the second section.

56. rustyfingers - Elves' Dance - Elverdans (Alfedanse) - Elfentanz, Lyric Pieces, Op. 12 No. 4. I think you captured the mood of this. Very sprightly.

59. LisztAddict - Praeludium BWV 999 in C minor I loce this prelude. Sounds fine with the pedal. Playing it on piano is an anachronism anyway, so why not use the pedal.

62. steveMac - Prelude Op. 28 No. 7 Your first Chopin piece - you must be proud. Very nice job.
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#1307922 - 11/18/09 05:15 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: Sam S]
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Wow, Sam, thanks. blush
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#1307924 - 11/18/09 05:16 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: jazzyprof]
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Here's my next batch of 10.

41. grotrianer - La plus que lente This is one of my favorite Debussy pieces. Your playing was excellent here. I really enjoyed listening to it.

42. Andy Mann - Manndrew - Time On My Hands Very mellow! Good job!

43. Yamaha G3 & P-80 Mike White - Military Polonaise Op 40. No. 1 It's nice to see people stretch above their perceived limits. You did a good of keeping the tempo even on this and although there were numerous slips (wrong notes) it was still an excellent effort! Congratulations on trying something so difficult.

44. Euan Morrison - I'm Going to Make a Cake Philip Glass has never been one of the composers I'd willingly listen to. That being said, I enjoyed your playing in this piece. Good control of the dynamics and the tempo.

45. joangolfing - Italian Concerto (Presto movement) Aside from tempo which, as you noted, is a little on the slow side I thought you did quite well on this. A couple of hesitations here and there, but overall you kept it moving properly and, for the most part, brought out the inner and outer voices quite nicely.

46. bluekeys - Invention #4 Nicely done. If I could make a couple of suggestions... First, vary the speed of the trills. In Bach's music the trills moved faster near the end than they did at the beginning. The trill in the left hand must have had your focus because it very nearly drowns out the right hand! Work on the level of the two hands there and I think you'll have this one nailed!

47. John Frank - Leaves on the Seine I don't know this piece of music (in fact, I don't know any New Age music). However, this was easy to listen to, very nice sounding. You seem to have good control over the tempo and dynamics making this an enjoyable piece to hear.

48. TX-Dennis (Dennis Turner) - Suicide Is Painless Ah, the old M*A*S*H theme song. Nicely played. The tempo on this can sneak up, but you kept it steady. Good job!

49. Undone - Theme from “The Unfinished Symphony” Well done! Good control of the dynamics here as well as the tempo.

50. GregF - Sleeping Through September Nice delicate touch in the beginning that really pulls the listener in. You maintain the touch throughout. Another piece I can listen to more than once.

More to follow...

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#1307956 - 11/18/09 05:51 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: epf]
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#10 Kokomo--- I really like the way you played this. I don't know what it was, maybe less legato than I've heard other people use, or something, I just liked your style. It really had some pop to it.
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#1308003 - 11/18/09 06:54 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: Strings & Wood]
flyingfroggy Offline
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Originally Posted By: Carl Mc
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Where do you place your Zoom H2 on your Schimmel and what settings do you use?


Funny you should ask...
I usually prefer the position and set up that MSH uses, which he describes in a few post up from here.
I had a most difficult time trying to settle on a set-up for this recording and must have tried about a dozen variations.
This was the best for what I wanted.
I used a 4 channel(this is the front speaker track), mid gain, with the wind sock over the mike and placed the Zoom 2 on the plate, inside of the piano at G4 pin/ upper. I remove the music rack, closed the lid, but folded back and still needed a very light left (sometimes not so light) frown left hand to keep the bass in control.
This will probably only work for softly played music, otherwise it will distort and good luck trying to slip a flub by the Zoom in this position!


Thanks for your reply; I use the same placement as you, but I've been using low gain and the front speakers. I'm not sure what you mean by "4 channel(this is the front speaker track)"--I thought 4 channel meant stereo front and rear speakers so you end up with 4 tracks to combine. Whatever, it's definitely working for you! I'll have to play around with my settings.
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#1308021 - 11/18/09 07:31 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: flyingfroggy]
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When you record in "4" channel, you are recording both front and rear. You can then choose either the front OR the rear recordings separately. I have compared my front vs rear recordings and always have gone with the rear for the reasons I've explained.

If I were to move the recorder further away from the piano, more than likely the front would sound better.

Keep in mind, mic placement is only part of the equation. While it is important, room acoustics MUST be considered and dealt with first. Nothing will sound good if the acoustics in the room are not good.

Here's the winning recipe:

33% performance
33% room acoustics
33% mic placement

If you mess up any one of these factors your recording will not be optimal. Also, it would be a shame if you spent so much time and effort perfecting your piece only to drop the ball on the mic placement/settings or screwing up the room acoustics.

Once again you will get out what you put into it. There are no shortcuts. I consider the Zoom to be the biggest shortcut of all because of its ease of use (once you figure it out). Still, you must not discount mic placement/settings and the acoustics of the room. It's so very important.


Edited by mr_super-hunky (11/18/09 07:38 PM)

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#1308048 - 11/18/09 08:24 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: Mr Super-Hunky]
Manu85 Offline
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Registered: 10/24/09
Posts: 5
Loc: Antwerp, Belgium
Hi all,

I listened to most of the pieces and liked most of your performances very much, thank you for playing this for us! But with only a mere 4 months experience in piano playing, I don't think detailed comments of me would be a big attribution, esp. for people looking for technical advice smile.

However, I wanted to mention I especially loved PianoAgain's performance! So fast and still so clean. Exquisite. Although Bach sometimes sounds a little bit too technical for my liking (I know that from playing the violin for 10 years, in case you were wondering how a 4 month-long-piano-player could have an outspoken opinion about this :p), you execute this piece perfectly. Have you ever attempted becoming a professional pianist? I read a bit of your blog too, nice work! Greets,

Manu

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#1308079 - 11/18/09 09:24 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: Kawaigirl1]
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Registered: 11/13/07
Posts: 658
Loc: Southern California
Here's my last group of comments...

51. ShiroKuro - While the Trees Sleep Since I don't know this piece I really can't comment on your accuracy to the score. I can say you played it with great confidence and control. Nicely done!

52. EJR (Elwyn) - "Ich ruf', zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ" [I call on Thee, Lord] BWV 639 Good work on this. It's not the easiest piece to play well but you did just that.

53. Mateusz 'Mati' Papiernik - Tooi hi no Kizuato As with the New Age music I really don't know Anime at all. Still, there is a certain poignancy in this piece. Well played.

54. MaryBee - Reverie Very nice! You certainly got the ethereal part of this piece down pat. Well played. BTW, I used to live in Shaker Heights and still have cousins in Lakewood.

55. Musictuary - In The Groove Clearly one should be "in the groove" to play this well -- and you did. Nice feel for the jazzy "bounce" of the piece.

56. rustyfingers - Elves' Dance - Elverdans (Alfedanse) - Elfentanz, Lyric Pieces, Op. 12 No. 4. This piece looks deceptively simple -- until one tries to play it at speed. A couple of hesitations but overall well done!

57. ddh - Daniel - Polskie Drogi (Polish Roads) I remember Mati's submission of this piece and I think yours is just as good -- your touch is perfect for this piece.

58. Serge88 - Greensleeves The resonance setting on this really adds a haunting feel to the piece. Nicely played with good control of the dynamics and the runs.

59. LisztAddict - Praeludium BWV 999 in C minor Excellent! Well played. I think that without the pedal this would be too dry -- but over-pedaled is worse! Your use of the pedal seems to be nearly perfect here.

60. Larry Larson - atmosphere Interesting choice of progressions in your chords. Nice touch on the piano. Thanks for submitting this!

61. TTigg / Steve C - Glasgow Love Theme Steve, this has a very nice feel to it and you played it very well.

62. steveMac - Prelude Op. 28 No. 7 Nicely played, but a touch too much pedal for my taste. Hmmm...I'm thinking a Tex-Mex haggis might be a bit much, what do you think?

63. DragonPianoPlayer - Prelude in E Minor (Op 28 No 4) Two Chopin preludes back-to-back -- what are the odds? Well done!

64. Mark... - Sarabande Good job on the triplets! You might want to work on making this a little more legato -- I think that will really enhance this piece.

65. Jordy - A Brighter Day The opening has an almost music box quality -- then it gets even better! Beautiful piece that's well played.

66. AnthonyB - Exit I don't know this piece but you seemed to play it with authority. Good control and nice touch!

I think this is the best recital yet! Everyone has done a wonderful job and I'm proud to be a part of this.

Ed
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#1308089 - 11/18/09 09:45 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: Manu85]
Mark... Offline
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Registered: 11/27/06
Posts: 3678
Sorry about the delay had two long 12 hour shifts at work. Don't you hate it when a person takes an ATV and crosses a 6 lane divided highway in the dark against a red light...oh the life of a paramedic...

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Performer's name: Riddler (Ed)


Normally I'm not a big fan of additional non piano sounds but the drum and the beat where sure nice in this one. You have such a free and easy flow and style. Wish I could pull this off...thanks for sharing...

22
Performer's name: cscl

I'm currently working on a Kuhlau piece (Sonatina Op 55 no 1) and know how much work it takes. Mine in not close to complete as yours. Very well done.

23
Performer's name: Schubertian

wow, such a sophisticated well played piece. Your Estonia recording sounded wonderful. I must find your mic placement.

24
Performer's name: kawaigirl1

As always a fantastic new age recording. You really have a talent.

25
Performer's name: Carl Mc

Wow...so well done and an excellent sounding Schimmel K213NWS. Bravo...this one is tricky and you did a great job.

26
Performer's name: Triryche (Rich)

Nice job Rich, seems you did a great job with the dynamics on this one. You can feel the emotion it it. Your digital sounds like an acoustic too.

27
Performer's name: Jazzwee

Although I'm more of a piano sound purist you pulled this one off with such smooth playing. I can't imagine how hard it would be to play. I'd love to hear it on an acoustic too. Thanks...

28
Performer's name: Frotz (Brian)

Wonderful job and sounded super on the 190...you really play well. You play above your experience level...wow

29
Performer's name: Monica K.

As usual, another wonderful Einaudi performance. You are really getting the video stuff down like an expert too. The piece you played seemed like a montage of a few of Einaudi pieces I've heard in the past. The Mason sounds sweet too. Bravo!

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Performer's name: Copper

I have the book this comes from and must check it out. You really played it clean and clear. very nice.

More to come...





Edited by Mark... (11/18/09 09:46 PM)
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#1308095 - 11/18/09 09:50 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: Mark...]
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Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 678
Loc: Herndon, VA
Quote:
(edit) There are many things Scott's been in but this is the quickest clip I could find.


Forgot that Jeff Goldblum and Harry Shearer were the other two actors in that....great movie.
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#1308117 - 11/18/09 10:17 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: kokomo61]
Serge88 Offline
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Registered: 08/27/06
Posts: 775
Loc: Canada
I'm late at the party, I just downloaded the recital and transfert the mp3 to iTunes iPod. 66 song, I don't need cd anymore.

My comments will follow.

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#1308141 - 11/18/09 10:45 PM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: epf]
TTigg Offline
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Registered: 11/30/07
Posts: 873
Loc: Southern California
Originally Posted By: epf

61. TTigg / Steve C - Glasgow Love Theme Steve, this has a very nice feel to it and you played it very well.
Ed

Thanks Ed thumb
I'll be looking forward to meeting you possibly next week so we can check out and, if you pardon the pun, sync video ideas.. smile
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#1308211 - 11/19/09 01:16 AM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: Mark...]
jotur Offline
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Registered: 09/16/06
Posts: 4217
Loc: Santa Fe, NM
Originally Posted By: Mark...
Sorry about the delay had two long 12 hour shifts at work. Don't you hate it when a person takes an ATV and crosses a 6 lane divided highway in the dark against a red light...oh the life of a paramedic...


Gulp.

Cathy

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#1308225 - 11/19/09 01:52 AM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: TTigg]
steveMac Offline
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Registered: 04/25/09
Posts: 154
Loc: El Paso, TX
epf, i'm in total agreement. Thanks.

11. flyingfroggy - Nocturne #20 in C# minor (posth.)
flyingfroggy, that really was great, thoroughly enjoyed your performance.

12. Glen R. - Waltz (Op. 39, No. 15)
Very nice Glen R, very sweet sounding.

13. HomeInMyShoes (HIMS, Homey, Home, Aaron) - Trois Gnossiennes
This sounded really great, very enjoyable.

14. Kalai1/Chris - Leo O Kapo (voice of the night)
Another self composition. It's a real treat to hear, i love listening to these. Congratulations.

15. Mar_red - Stranger in Paradise & Love Letters (medley)
Mar_red, you say not pro renditions but if i were sitting in a bar chilling out and this was the background music, i would happily sit back and enjoy it. Well done.

16. Sandy Moore - Hills of Purple Heather
If it's Scottish, it has to be great, right? Kidding aside, this was very nicely played and a good listen.

17. b528nf7 (Bill) - Layla
Being an Eric Clapton fan myself, i wasn't sure how this would work out. I'm surprised at how well you made it work and it really does work. You did a great job Bill.

18. Todd Vance - Sonatina (Clementi, Op. 56 No. 3)
This really is great, you played it so well Todd. Most enjoyable.

19. Bunneh - Première Gymnopédie
I think you are totally right Bunneh, sounds like great music to me. Well done.

20. salzdt - Kupelwieser Waltz
I think you did a very fine job salzdt and it's a sweet piece of music.

21. Riddler (Ed) - Easy Living
I'm not really a jazz person but sometimes i hear a piece of music that has me swaying, this is one of them. Very well played.

22. cscl - Kuhlau Sonatina Op. 55, No. 2, I-II
I'm not even sure what a Sonatina is but i'd like to find out now. Very sweet.

23. Schubertian - Hungarian Melody (D817)
This was great Schubertian, sounds like a very tough piece to, my hats off to you.

24. kawaigirl1 - Like the wind
What can i say, it was beautiful and perfect.

25. Carl Mc - Piano Sonata No. 14 OP 27/2 1st Mvt (Moonlight Sonata)
I don't think i'll ever tire of hearing this piece of music. Really well played, i enjoyed it. Do you play this from memory, sheet or is it a combination?
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#1308311 - 11/19/09 08:04 AM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: steveMac]
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Registered: 02/11/08
Posts: 3104
Loc: Chocolatetown, USA
25. Carl Mc - Piano Sonata No. 14 OP 27/2 1st Mvt (Moonlight Sonata)

Fairly good rendition of this well known, often played work - while listening I was wondering how a slightly faster and more "dramatic" version would sound...but, good effort.

26. Triryche (Rich) - In God's Hands

Nicely done - maybe the melody needs brought out a little more - but, where's the rest of it?

27. Jazzwee - Autumn Leaves - Rhythmic Play

"A completely improvised excerpt for the variant melody"? I think I almost get that...hence, no composer credit? Well improvised though, although I don't particularly care for the digital piano sound on this either...

28. Frotz (Brian) - Notturno (Op.54 No.4)

A somewhat somber piece that musically seems not to have a great deal of structure or direction - but you played it well nonetheless, so nice work.

29. Monica K. - Quel Che Resta

You know, Monica K., that those who start out in New Age playing Eyenowdee smile usually end up moving up sooner or later to playing David Lanz wink laugh

As a beginning point in that direction may I recommend my Recital piece "Leaves on the Seine", my playing of which I couldn't tell from your comments whether or not you liked, but which seems at least to have inspired you to move it's study a tad upward in your "priority pieces" stack. And that's a good thing. thumb

30. Copper - Air

A breath of fresh "Air" - Nicely done.

More to follow...

JF


Edited by John Frank (11/19/09 08:06 AM)
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#1308334 - 11/19/09 08:55 AM Re: Recital #16 --- General Discussion Room [Re: TrapperJohn]
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Originally Posted By: John Frank
You know, Monica K., that those who start out in New Age playing Eyenowdee smile usually end up moving up sooner or later to playing David Lanz wink laugh


Actually, I started out with David Lanz. smile When I bought my first piano, the first sheet music collection I bought was "Cristofori's Dream," and that was one of the very first pieces I ever tackled (which I really had no business doing so, but it's one of the few pieces that I've kept in my repertoire the whole time, and it's gradually getting in a shape that I'm happy with).

I'll tell you the Lanz piece I really want to learn, and that's his arrangement of "Nights in White Satin." It's absolutely gorgeous, and I've even played around with it a little, but I don't think I'm quite there yet to do it justice. But it will be a recital entry for me one of these days. thumb

Originally Posted By: John Frank

As a beginning point in that direction may I recommend my Recital piece "Leaves on the Seine", my playing of which I couldn't tell from your comments whether or not you liked


Then I was remiss in my comments, because I liked your playing of that piece very much. smile


Edited by Monica K. (11/19/09 11:21 AM)
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