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#1308670 - 11/19/09 05:34 PM best digital piano fr 2000 to 3000 USD
hIt0sAwA Offline
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Registered: 11/16/09
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Loc: South CA
Iam a fan of Yamaha. But after doing some research on this forum, I found out that maybe I could pay less for better piano, in terms of key feeling and function (such as kawai ce200 w wooden key - which can only be found on yamaha high end model- and Styles also)

So, it seems like I was totally wrong when ignoring other brands and only focusing on yamaha.

In conclusion: best digital piano fr 2k to 3k, regardless of brand?

any idea will be greatly appreciated smile



Edited by hIt0sAwA (11/19/09 05:34 PM)
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#1308920 - 11/19/09 11:59 PM Re: best digital piano fr 2000 to 3000 USD [Re: hIt0sAwA]
ChrisA Offline
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Registered: 12/28/08
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Loc: Redondo Beach, California
Originally Posted By: hIt0sAwA
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In conclusion: best digital piano fr 2k to 3k, regardless of brand?


For $3K you can go top of the line. Take a look at the Roland RD700GX. If I had $3K to spend, and had to spend if on a DP I'd go for the RD700

But with that budget there is a huge selection
In the Kawai line way stop at the ce200? Go for the MP8II plus a pair of monitor speakers


Edited by ChrisA (11/20/09 12:03 AM)

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#1308973 - 11/20/09 02:51 AM Re: best digital piano fr 2000 to 3000 USD [Re: ChrisA]
FogVilleLad Offline
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Your budget opens many doors.

Re the wooden keys, the touch that you experience comes mostly from the mechanism of the action. Mechanisms differ. It'd be a good idea to audition as many Yamahas, Rolands, and Kawais that you can locate. See which one you prefer.

If the DP will be played at home rather than at gigs, you might want to include "home" DP's - pedals built into the cabinets - in your auditioning.

Some people who have criticized Kawai's actions say that it's difficult to make fast runs which require playing on the middle of the keys, rather than at the ends. If you play at a high level - I don't - that could be worth investigating.

Patience and persistence.


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#1309020 - 11/20/09 06:11 AM Re: best digital piano fr 2000 to 3000 USD [Re: FogVilleLad]
Huygens Offline
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Registered: 11/10/09
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Loc: Sweden
Originally Posted By: FogVilleLad
Some people who have criticized Kawai's actions say that it's difficult to make fast runs which require playing on the middle of the keys, rather than at the ends.


Do you know if that statement holds for the Kawai "AWA Grand PRO" keys as well? I guess the problem with fast runs is for some of the simpler key types, like Kawai AHA? (And I guess the same problem goes with for example Yamaha's GH keys?)
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#1309190 - 11/20/09 12:29 PM Re: best digital piano fr 2000 to 3000 USD [Re: Huygens]
trolls99 Offline
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I believe that the current Yamahas are overpriced. Roland and Kawai offer better pianos between 2000-3000 USD. One great offer for the money is the HP203.

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#1309270 - 11/20/09 02:44 PM Re: best digital piano fr 2000 to 3000 USD [Re: Huygens]
FogVilleLad Offline
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Originally Posted By: Huygens

Do you know if that statement holds for the Kawai "AWA Grand PRO" keys as well?
No, and that's why I recommend auditioning the DP's.

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#1310066 - 11/21/09 09:51 PM Re: best digital piano fr 2000 to 3000 USD [Re: FogVilleLad]
Trumpets Offline
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Registered: 10/09/09
Posts: 13
I was looking for a piano in the same price range and finally decided on the Kawai CA-51 polished ebony which I got for about $2,400 after taxes. I mainly got it because the touch is amazing. Whenever I practice on it I feel like I am playing a really piano. I am very very pleased with my purchase. There are also the CA-71 and CA-91 which have the same action but cost more because of the additional gadgets and different speakers (CA-91).

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#1310259 - 11/22/09 08:31 AM Re: best digital piano fr 2000 to 3000 USD [Re: Trumpets]
Huygens Offline
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Originally Posted By: Trumpets
I was looking for a piano in the same price range and finally decided on the Kawai CA-51 polished ebony which I got for about $2,400 after taxes. I mainly got it because the touch is amazing. Whenever I practice on it I feel like I am playing a really piano.


I've also got the impression (from wading through forum threads) that the Kawai keyboards are better than the Yamahas CLP/CVP (and possible also better than Roland RD-700GX?), but..

How is the sound from the speakers? Is the Kawai CA-51 mellow like the Yamahas or bright like the RD-700GX?

Or does the Kawai CA-51 differ between the Grand voices, some being soft and mellow and other glass crisp and bright? In that case, which of the CA-51 voices do you consider being mellow?

I might have the opportunity to listen to a Kawai CP-136 in a few weeks, so it would be most appreciated if you could help me in advance suggesting what I should try listening at. smile
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#1310449 - 11/22/09 02:31 PM Re: best digital piano fr 2000 to 3000 USD [Re: Huygens]
Trumpets Offline
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Registered: 10/09/09
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Originally Posted By: Huygens
How is the sound from the speakers? Is the Kawai CA-51 mellow like the Yamahas or bright like the RD-700GX?

Or does the Kawai CA-51 differ between the Grand voices, some being soft and mellow and other glass crisp and bright? In that case, which of the CA-51 voices do you consider being mellow?


I won't be able to comment much on the sound of the CA-51 because when I was looking for a digital piano I was focusing on the touch and didn't mind if the sound wasn't the BEST out there. I figured I could allways use excellent head phones or connect it to a computer which would allow you to get any piano sound you want with software.

I will say this, when I was able to play the CA-91 I was very very impressed with the sound, I don't think you could know it is a digital if you were blind folded. The CA-51 doesn't sound as good as the CA-91 but I am happy with it. But as I said, I didn't compare the sounds (mellow, bright, soft, crisp, or etc.) of digital pianos much.

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