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#1309868 - 11/21/09 03:16 PM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: pianoloverus]
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The ability to stay focused and concentrated for long periods of time. Patience. A tenacious sense of perfectionism whether real or imagined. In other words an attitude of "I'm not going to finish until it is as good as it can be".
The other abilities you mention are spot on. I believe that humility is needed as well. Often times we work behind the scenes and do things that we do not get credit for but that need to be done anyway. The pianists that we are working for can get the ego gratification, and there's nothing wrong with that either.
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#1309894 - 11/21/09 04:13 PM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: JBE]
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Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
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I refer to that as the ability to sit down and do something 88 times over.
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#1309907 - 11/21/09 04:33 PM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: BDB]
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Well said BDB.
If one does a two pass tuning that's 88x2. If you move the lever five times to set each pin that's about 880 movements of a tuning lever just for one tuning. Multiply that by four or five tunings a day! Now add in the listening part that the ears and brain do and the all of the driving directions, the repairs, the communication with the clients. It is a lot of work.
That's why I would put ability to concentrate at the top of the list.
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#1309940 - 11/21/09 05:33 PM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: JBE]
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Registered: 10/22/06
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Loc: Maine
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I'd vote for being able to collect your fee. A business gets pretty hard to manage if you never get paid.
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#1309954 - 11/21/09 06:03 PM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: David Jenson]
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Registered: 06/01/01
Posts: 3394
Loc: Orlando FL
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In addition to tuning/regulating/repair skills:
The ability to drive 100 miles a day, every day, without tickets or accidents, or flipping off other drivers
The ability to eat and drive at the same time
The ability to run faster than the customer's dog (just kidding)
The radar to find unmarked homes with accuracy (made easier with GPS and cell phones)
The willingness to work any hour of the day, any day of the week
The willingness to sometimes work for less than minimum wage
The ability to smile when things are at their worst (ie tax time)
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#1310026 - 11/21/09 08:31 PM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: JBE]
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Registered: 06/23/06
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Loc: Québec, Canada
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The ability to stay focused and concentrated for long periods of time. Patience. A tenacious sense of perfectionism whether real or imagined. In other words an attitude of "I'm not going to finish until it is as good as it can be".
The other abilities you mention are spot on. I believe that humility is needed as well. Often times we work behind the scenes and do things that we do not get credit for but that need to be done anyway. The pianists that we are working for can get the ego gratification, and there's nothing wrong with that either. I agree.
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#1310141 - 11/22/09 12:05 AM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: accordeur]
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Registered: 05/06/07
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The ability to listen: to the tuning to the voicing to the customer's wishes
The ability to diagnose and solve problems quickly
What the other guys said: maintaining focus on a single task for 88 notes/keys/action parts/hammers driving skills and safety
Customer relations may be the most important of all.
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#1310372 - 11/22/09 12:30 PM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: Dave Stahl]
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Registered: 02/05/05
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Loc: SW Missouri
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Exceptional good looks, wit, charm, ready ability to master any piano in any circumstance, to leap tall uprights with a single bound, more powerful than a drop action, etc., and lastly, abject humility.
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#1310636 - 11/22/09 08:46 PM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Registered: 10/22/06
Posts: 1158
Loc: Maine
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OK Sam, you're setting the bar pretty high! That last one's the stickler. I would have utmost pride in my humility if it didn't show up as such a glaring contradiction, so I settle for a small amount and hope no one notices.
'Good looks? Fugidaboutit! (me, not anyone else lest I be sent to Exile Island)
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#1310643 - 11/22/09 08:52 PM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 5890
Loc: Grand Rapids Michigan
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There are to many requirements to state them all or pick one over another that one must have to make one good, better or best technician but, I picked some...
1. Hearing. Some tuners think they can hear and do a nice job but they cannot. We must be able to hear everything. From tuning, to hearing rattles, buzzes and clicks. We must hear what customers are complaining about as mentioned above by problem solving, regulation issues or voicing problems and more.
2. Voicing is a talent. That talent is something that is learned and practiced a lot. Some techs have much better voicing talents than others due to more practice, better hearing and more patience.
3. Regulation. Regulation and voicing go hand in hand. If the piano is not properly regulated, hammers not properly mated etc., voicing and touch for voicing will be affected.
4. Patience. Lots of it. None of us always has enough of this.
5. Good aural skills is a requirement. Period. There is no guesswork involved. It is either right, or, it is wrong. Everything in between is also either right or wrong. Is there a good enough point? Sure, on the cheaper junkier pianos where great is not possible.
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#1310654 - 11/22/09 09:16 PM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: David Jenson]
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It is possible to have a HEALTHY ego and humility at the same time......so I've heard.
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#1310678 - 11/22/09 09:48 PM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: Jerry Groot RPT]
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There's a big difference between "good enough" and "good as can be". Perfection is not possible on any piano but one can still strive for it. Striving for it can lead to a "top notch job" however.
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#1310691 - 11/22/09 10:13 PM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: Larry Buck]
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5000 Post Club Member
Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 5890
Loc: Grand Rapids Michigan
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As I said Byron; "Is there a good enough point? Sure, on the cheaper junkier pianos where great is not possible." Refer back to number's 3 & 4.
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Jerry Groot RPT Piano Technicians Guild Grand Rapids, Michigan www.grootpiano.comWe love to play BF2.
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#1311244 - 11/23/09 10:13 PM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: Jerry Groot RPT]
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Registered: 03/07/05
Posts: 917
Loc: Kalamazoo Michigan
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!. The ability to sleep exactly 36 minutes per night, during the entire holiday season!!!!
2. The ability to say "no" to certain types of work. There is some money you don't need in your business, or so I've heard it said.
3. Beginner's mind. Always be a student, and don't get cocky. There is always somebody RIGHT around the corner who can do your job, so stay in the learning mode.
4. The ability to understand what your product is, and what it is not. The ability to refer work, when necessary.
5. A supportive partner (wife or husband, life-partner or whatever ya got)
6. The understanding that everything you say, everything you do, can and probably will become known to others. Thus, always act/write/comment as if you were speaking in public. It will save many embarrasments...
7. The ability to exhibit a bit of self discipline...and self control, i.e. the ability to earn the trust of husbands while you are in the home with their wives, or their kids etc etc. This is THE most important item perhaps. Without trust, your career is toast.
8. Everything else they said above.
FWIW
RPD
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#1311290 - 11/23/09 11:23 PM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: Larry Buck]
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1000 Post Club Member
Registered: 05/06/07
Posts: 1621
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The more experience a tech has ...
The smaller his tool bag .. Yeah...I heard that Newton Hunt carried a tool bag roughly the size of a makeup kit.
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#1311434 - 11/24/09 09:53 AM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: Dave Stahl]
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Posts: 377
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How about an extra compartment for Fig Newtons?
RPD you're scaring the heck out of me. I don't want to leave the house this morning...
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#1311579 - 11/24/09 02:53 PM
Re: What abilities make the greatest techs?
[Re: Dave Stahl]
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3000 Post Club Member
Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 3148
Loc: Canton, MI
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The more experience a tech has ...
The smaller his tool bag .. Yeah...I heard that Newton Hunt carried a tool bag roughly the size of a makeup kit. I've seen some REALLY BIG MAKEUP KITS....made for those that need it 
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