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Or the musical equivalent: "and then just learn it in all 12 keys"

I know this has nothing to do with the original post (but I'm not exactly the first off-topic one here), but I did look up Mark's video that he referenced, and I'm impressed.

For better or worse, probably mostly the latter, I'll never be anyone but myself.

Cathy

Well I think that's much more important than the topic at hand!

But seriously folks.......thanks very much peejay -- much much appreciated.

I've read that it takes 7 times as much effort to "unlearn" something that you learned incorrectly, that is actually a good thing if you learn correctly the first time.

Mark, I watched your video and pretty much read all your posts. I find you quite entertaining and it seems that since you came onboard the forums have never stop moving right along at a nice clip. BTW - You look like Picard to me ( very cool ). You really do seem to stir up emotions and thoughts that encourage members to post more than usual. I think we have seen a lot of very good exchanges as a result and maybe some folks allowed more of themselves than intended. Levelheaded counterpoints were appreciated by me anyway, even learned a few things Thanks and keep posting.
Richard

"Un sot trouve toujours un plus sot qui l'admire." —Nicholas Boileau-Despréaux

Comme d'habitude!

sotto voce,

You have some nerve calling me a fool!
At what point did I lower myself to namecalling?
Because you quote in French?
Nice.

I don't think I implied I admire Mark Cannon, I simply said I thought he was entertaining.
That does not call for your insulting remark.
Richard

KeyboardKlutz,
The "usual" areas I would like to place myself here is to say that I think you, and sotto voce are terrific pianists. If I were to "admire" someone it would be someone who has demonstrated a great talent as you both have, as Mark has. I have listened to some of your postings and I can only hope that in a few years from now that I can play nearly as well as both of you do, usually, and be a surprise.
Richard

Richard,

Boileau was making a broad observation about the ease with which certain people capture the attention and adulation of others. Even if it's not applicable to this specific instance, I still think it has general relevance.

I'm sure you knew when you voiced your opinion that others wouldn't necessarily share it, but they're effectively muzzled from expressing themselves by the "If you can't say anything good, don't say anything" ethos that prevails here. By offering instead an aphorism from a learned Gallic scholar, I meant no offense to you and I apologize if any was taken.

Steven

Steven, Thank you for the apology, It is accepted - I was offended as I am sure it was not hard to tell. I am well aware of the differences of opinions that you and a few others share concerning Mark Cannon. I thought I was just expessing my thoughts and felt, and still feel, that I was taking no sides or supporting anyones viewpoint. I am a raw beginner and pretty new to the forum. I take great pleasure taking in the wealth of talent and knowledge that members here have acquired with years of effort. Since even I could see that there was a good deal of tension all through the thread I would have been wise to place my comments in a calmer atmosphere. Up until these little "events" take place further into some threads, members like you and keyboardklutz, passion and many others display and post a tremendous knowledge of music and education - and I am grateful for those gifts on Piano World.
Again, thank you,
Richard

Passion!? What was 'educational' about his bizarre, homophobic and scattalogical references in the 'No Fun' thread? That, in my time here at PW, has gotta be the most abusive post I've seen.

Keyboardklutz - I agree - don't know what got into me.
I think I will go for the mentioned muzzle.
Richard

I just assumed that the name was confused with someone else's.

For what it's worth, Passion has left the building.

Steven

Too funny, and much appreciated.

Cathy

It's amazing how off topic this thread has taken. I am involved in a lot of different forums and quite frankly I'm surprised a moderator has not stepped in yet. Usually these threads have some useful information for myself since a no teacher / self learner to all bad habits type of guy like me needs all the help you can get and will agree this thread did start that way but not for long. lol


While I did pick up some interesting unknown info (Keyboardklutz, I had no idea fingering was as important as it is in reference to Chopin and the like), it has been an entertaining way to start off the morning!

You want to see what goes on before YD gets out of bed!

Thanks, Richard -- it's better than "Larry David" which is what I usually get.

Thanks very much for the props and the encouragement!
But if I keep ruffling feathers in a bad way so often, I'll do something about it -- probably just posting less, which maybe wouldn't hurt anyway.

If part of what you meant was what I think you might have, I thank you anyway for taking a look.