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Reblitz doesn't say that the best tuning hammer position is with the hammer handle hanging out over the keys!
The 5, 6, and 7 o'clock referred to in the Reblitz book is actually 11, 12, and 1 o'clock for a grand.

There's no need for a super long tip extension to get over the stretcher.

Thanks Byron

I appreciate it. Oh and I finally know what to call that wood- stretcher


Neil

Sorry Neil, just passionate about my trade. Way too many hacks kicking around posing as technicians. Again, Sorry

Thanks for the apology tranesong. Really I do understand your point of view.

I also am interested in learning as much as I can and think it would be quite a cool thing to be able to tune aurally as you do.

Maybe I'll get there some day.

Cheers
Neil

Hi Neil,

Yes, I have looked into the Verituner as well and will seriously consider getting the 100 model once I finish the Randy Potter course. It seems like a nice piece of kit although others swear by the SAT III. It wouldn't take long to recoup the price if only tuning your own piano, which you would probably tune a lot more if you knew how your-self. Anyway the more control you have over your own piano the better I think though that you have to learn to be able to discern and count the beats (or at least know how they "sound") to do well at tuning.

I will definately check out the Yahoo groups you suggested. Thanks



Cheers


Tony

Tony. If you get the Verituner 100 you will not be sorry. It is a very nice machine.

I apologize for repeating my point with three posts! I did not see that my first two had been posted. I thought I lost them before submitting them! Sorry.

AUTPHF,

One can tune a piano without learning to count beats...the ETD does that for you, at least that's been my experience so far.

One thing I did learn on my own the more I tuned with the ETD, and that is I am now able to hear if a unison is out of tune, and with my ear, I can tune the unison so it's beat-less, and the ETD usually agrees with me.

Hey GP,

Love to have your views expressed in DIY piano tuning yahoo group. http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/DIYPianotuning/

Would you do a post there about your ETD experiences?

I set it up to require approval, but that's a cinch.

Hope to see you there. You too Byron and Randy

Neil

Byron ,

It's all good. Only one post showed up.

BTW guys,

I ordered my Fujan today. I think it's exciting really. Kind of a small tool to spend almost $400 on but one piano splurge , OK maybe two, a year is OK isn't it? I'm just doing my part to get the economy moving, right?

Anyway, I bought the 5 degree head, the 9 3/8 tube, the straight handle assembly, the #2 tip that's an inch long( common knowledge here I assume) and then his 5/8 tip extension.

Then I went to Pianotek supply and bought their Watanabe #2 2 1/2 inch tip and their tip wrench which was quite a bit cheaper than at Fujan.

So, this is my wild and crazy plan. Byron, I hear you on the technique thing where nobody does it with the handle out over the keys. Well, With the combo of the 5/8 tip extension and the 2 1/2 tip, I can get over the stretcher. So, I'll give that a shot. If that doesn't feel good, I'll switch to the one inch tip combined with the 5/8 tip extension so I hopefully will be able to clear the plate webbing. Failing that, Steve Fujan was willing to exchange the head for just the cost of the postage.

So, I'll keep you posted on how this goes. Steve says it'll be around two weeks for delivery.

Neil

BTW, the correct spelling is "Fujan" (and "Watanabe").

--Cy--

Thanks Cy,

I'm a terrible speller but I should have gotten those right.

In fact, I'll fix that now.

Thanks

Neil

edit-- fixed Fujan and Watanabe, I couldn't spell without spell check but that was right in front of me, my bad.

OK...if you want to look and feel like you are driving an outboard motor boat then give it a shot but I'm telling you what the Reblitz book really says.

Hi Byron

That's great. Made me laugh. ha Maybe it'll make my piano float too. lol BTW- I think I just saw you on the Verituner forum, right?

Neil