Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician
SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
Ad (Piano Sing)
How to Make Your Piano Sing
Who's Online
87 registered (Anita Potter, anamnesis, ando, accordeur, Almaviva, 24 invisible), 1344 Guests and 15 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Topic Options
#1327068 - 12/16/09 10:10 PM adult re-learning on a budget
pandamonium Offline
Full Member

Registered: 12/10/09
Posts: 21
I took a couple of years of private lessons about 15 years ago. I was okay, but the dedication wasn't there so I didn't practice more than a few hours a week. I had an acoustic upright at home and played on an acoustic grand at my teacher's house.

I'm now interested in learning for myself instead of for my parents/family. The problems are that I live in a small apartment, I'll be moving at least twice in the next 7 years, and I have an unrealistically low budget. I tentatively set a limit of $400, but I'm willing to budge if its worthwhile. I have a hard limit of $1000. So that range doesn't do much for narrowing down my options. I want to learn a bit of classical, but honestly, the fun for me will be playing Beatles tunes and The Doobie Brothers - China Grove. (China Grove has been stuck in my head for the past two months...)

Since it's been so long, I doubt that I'll be able to really remember the feel of the keys. I really only want something that will tide me over until I have the space, stability, and finances to buy an acoustic grand. I don't care for the sound because I'll probably be connected to my computer or wearing headphones. Besides, the samples would have to be *really* bad for me to care at my level of practice. So here's what I care about: keys that play like an acoustic (grand or upright, doesn't matter to me), portability, and weight (lighter is better). I did the measuring, and if I put the keyboard on my computer desk keyboard tray, the keys will be pretty much at the right height (give or take half an inch).

So here's what I've been able to glean from these forums, google, and manufacturer websites. Please let me know if I'm glossing over stuff.

Casio:
I should be able to pick up a PX-130 for around $400-$450, so it's within my target price range. The PX-130 seems to have the same mechanism as its pricier PX-330 cousin, and I consider the PX-130 a "no-frills" variant of the PX-330. Some say Casio sampling is bad; I probably won't mind. What concerns me is that many people say the key action degrades after a few months, and Casio doesn't do much in the way of repairs/servicing. For these reasons, if I get a Casio, it'll be the PX-130.

Yamaha:
The P85 is pushing my comfort zone for price. I think I'll be able to track one down for about $600 after cash back. It seems like Yamaha takes care of its customers, the sampling should be better than any of the Casios, and the key action is supposedly a little better. (GHS I believe) I'm not sure that this is worth the $200 over a Casio. If I want to move up, I'd consider the P-140 (GH I think). I'm going to have a really difficult time finding the P-140 for less than $900. This is basically the only other keyboard I've researched that seems like it would work for me.

Roland:
The only other manufacturer that came up on my radar as a serious option to consider. The problem is that they are priced out of my range.

Buying in general:
Honestly, I don't really have a problem buying second hand. The problem is that I don't see many DPs selling secondhand, and the ones that I see listed on eBay can be beaten by shopping around online and applying some coupons here & there.

So I ask you guys, what would you recommend? And is my understanding of what's on the market pretty accurate?

Top
(ads) Sweetwater / Roland
Special Financing on Digital Keyboards

Click Here


#1327171 - 12/17/09 12:53 AM Re: adult re-learning on a budget [Re: pandamonium]
ChrisA Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/28/08
Posts: 3841
Loc: Redondo Beach, California
Do you live in the US? If so prices are better than you have found. Search this forum for the 20% off deal at Music123. Others will match that price if you ask. This means the Yamaha P140 and even the P155 is within your budget.

Top
#1327182 - 12/17/09 01:29 AM Re: adult re-learning on a budget [Re: ChrisA]
ptnaidu Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 12/15/09
Posts: 10
Chris,

Can you please point me to the thread on 20% deal at Music123? I can't find the thread, and they only said about 15% off digital dollars that I can spend in their online store next year. How do I get 20% off now?

Thanks

Top
#1327188 - 12/17/09 01:37 AM Re: adult re-learning on a budget [Re: ptnaidu]
ChrisA Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/28/08
Posts: 3841
Loc: Redondo Beach, California
Enter a coupon code "DEALTAKE" at checkout. Codes are available at dealtaker.com

Top
#1327208 - 12/17/09 02:31 AM Re: adult re-learning on a budget [Re: ChrisA]
pandamonium Offline
Full Member

Registered: 12/10/09
Posts: 21
Awesome- thanks for the heads up ChrisA!

Do you have any recommendations for other keyboards to consider or are the ones I wrote about pretty much what I should be looking for?

Top
#1327541 - 12/17/09 02:38 PM Re: adult re-learning on a budget [Re: pandamonium]
Huygens Offline
Full Member

Registered: 11/10/09
Posts: 217
Loc: Sweden
Some possible ordinary priced DPs:
  • Korg LP350 Extremely strong key action for the price. Some people says the sound is a bit weak outside the mid-range. Several voices. Has 2-level sampling. 3-pedal console.
  • Korg SP250 Extremely strong key action for the price. Some people says the sound is a bit weak outside the mid-range. Several voices. Has 2-level sampling. 1-pedal keyboard.
  • Casio AP-620 Good key action, close to the Korg SP250. Lots of synth voices & accompaniments. 4-level sampling. More expensive. 3-pedal console.
  • Casio PX-830 Good key action, close to the Korg SP250. Some people think the sound is a little too thin. 4-level sampling. 3-pedal console.
  • Kurzweil SP2SX Lots of sounds & voices of decent quality. Good key action. 2-pedal stand.
  • Kurzweil PC3X Abundance of sounds & voices. Good key action. No speakers. Clearly better than SP2SX. 3-pedal keyboard.
  • (no link) Yamaha YDP-223 Legendary digital piano. Very good 1-level sampled sound, outperforming 3-level DPs like YDP-160. Regular key action. 3-pedal console.
  • Yamaha P-155 Very good sound considering the speakers. Regular key action. 4-level sampling. 1-pedal keyboard.
  • Kawai ES6 Very good key action. Nice sounds. Lots of accompaniments! Several voices. 3-pedal console.
  • Kawai CN42 Very good key action. Extremely (?) good sound. Several voices. Expensive. 3-pedal console. (see also the Kawai CN32)
  • Roland HP203 Extremely good key action. Expensive compared to the others. Lots of extra voices. 3-pedal console.
  • Casio CDP-200R Low price. Lots of synth sounds & accompaniments. Graded Hammer key action of light quality. 1-pedal stand.

In order to decide if you ─║ike a digital piano or not, pay attention to two things when you compare them in the shop:
  • Do you like the faked Graded Hammer action of the keyboard?
  • Do you like the sound of the Grand Piano voices?
Some 1-pedal keyboards can be upgraded by buying a 3-pedal unit.
_________________________
P-85 cheap plastic imitation; not because of sound, but weight.

Top

Moderator:  Piano World 
What's Hot!!
Christmas Header
Christmas Lights at Piano World Headquarters in Maine 2014
-------------------
The December Free Piano Newsletter
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
PIANO BOOKS
Interesting books about the piano, pianists, piano history, biographies, memoirs and more!
(ad) Yamaha CP Music Rest Promo
Yamaha CP Music Rest Promo
(ad) HAILUN Pianos
Hailun Pianos - Click for More
Ad (Seiler/Knabe)
Knabe Pianos
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
Sheet Music Plus (125)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Making a New York Steinway sound like a Hamburg Steinway
by nphase
Today at 10:24 PM
Merry Christmas from Brazil! Feliz Natal!!
by Piano_Brazil
Today at 09:19 PM
Rzewski: De Profundis
by pianoloverus
Today at 09:17 PM
Guide to skills level
by Gemgem
Today at 08:55 PM
piano with willie
by TonyB
Today at 08:25 PM
Forum Stats
77375 Members
42 Forums
160028 Topics
2349998 Posts

Max Online: 15252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
Gift Ideas for Music Lovers!
Find the Perfect Gift for the Music Lovers on your List!
Visit our online store today.

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2014 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission