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#1348545 - 01/13/10 12:20 PM
STEINBACK digital piano
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Junior Member
Registered: 01/13/10
Posts: 2
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Hi all! I have a question, have you ever heard of digital piano Steinbach, are good pianos? In particular i am interested in Steinbach MP-100, but i'm not able to find specification or any producer site web with details. Thanks guys 
Edited by Zonzybal (01/13/10 03:44 PM)
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#1348705 - 01/13/10 03:43 PM
Re: STEINBACK digital piano
[Re: Zonzybal]
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Registered: 01/02/06
Posts: 211
Loc: Hood River, Oregon, USA
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I'm aware of Steinbach acoustic pianos but there's no evidence of digitals on their site. All google results seem to be from general market sites with .nl domains and the most recent--other than your post--appears to be almost a year old.
Not a good sign.
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#1348887 - 01/13/10 06:50 PM
Re: STEINBACK digital piano
[Re: Alden]
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500 Post Club Member
Registered: 03/24/07
Posts: 598
Loc: Denton Texas
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I agree that if they're hard to find even on the internet, that is a warning sign. Obviously not a lot of people have them, and there may be a good reason for that. Also, how can you guarantee that the company will be around long enough to support their product in the future should you need servicing?
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#1349166 - 01/14/10 02:53 AM
Re: STEINBACK digital piano
[Re: LesCharles73]
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Junior Member
Registered: 01/13/10
Posts: 2
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Yeah it's not a good sign...i emailed producer at info@steinbachpiano.com I found more details from an holland market, it seems a good piano:
Piano 1, Piano 2, El. 1 Piano, El. Piano 2, Harpsichord / Harpsichord, Vibraphone, Church Organ, Strings
2 x 20 Watt, 2 high end luidsprekersr full range, 2 tweeters + Traditional Keyboard Cover with Stand bye position and flashing LED.
Transpose, Fine Tuning,
7 different settings for the attack
128 note polyphony
9 different Reverbs
Track 1 / 2 each 5000 notes, Recording, Play
Soft buttons illuminated with blue LEDs
Grand Piano Hammer Action Keyboard, 85g/ktoets with the feeling of wooden keys
4 Speakers
Adjustable metronome beats at various speeds and
Votes: Pythagoras, Pure Major, Pure Minor, Mean Tone, Werckmeister, Kirnberger
2 Headphone jacks, USB Interface, 2 Line out / Line in
But...only sign that confirm the existence of this piano....it's a mystery XD
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#1349320 - 01/14/10 11:20 AM
Re: STEINBACK digital piano
[Re: Zonzybal]
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4000 Post Club Member
Registered: 04/24/05
Posts: 4521
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I've never heard of it, but I see no problem in buying it. An acoustic piano maker might try making a few digitals, just to test the market. For example, if I'm not mistaken, believe Pearl River made a few digitals to sort of test the market, and then after a while decided not to get into digital pianos.
Digital pianos are essentially a computer with a keyboard and speakers, and so any company can quickly produce a good dp from largely snap-together components: computer chips, other electrical components, weighted keyboard, and speakers. So the acoustic piano maker Steinbach might be making a few digitals to test the market and see if they want to get into it in a big way. These digitals would be just as good as those from the established big-name digital piano manufacturers.
As for servicing, dp's are very reliable and so you shouldn't have a problem there. I've owned 4 dp's since 1989 and never had a problem with any of them.
This thing about just liking the name "Steinbach" is not to be dismissed out of hand. This kind of intangible factor: name, image, appearance, pizzaz, etc., can be the deciding factor in a purchase. Some people on this forum have tried all the big-name brands and then decided instead to get dp's with catchy names like: Adagio, Hemingway, Winchester, Suzuki, Williams, Galileo, Princeton, etc.
Edited by Gyro (01/14/10 11:23 AM)
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#1349400 - 01/14/10 01:29 PM
Re: STEINBACK digital piano
[Re: Zonzybal]
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3000 Post Club Member
Registered: 12/28/08
Posts: 3768
Loc: Redondo Beach, California
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Hi all! I have a question, have you ever heard of digital piano Steinbach, are good pianos? There are many private lable DPs. These are made under contract in some factory and then they put the resellers brand name on the front. So you will never find these in the Internet because the they were made by a third party under contract in low volume. I noticed a few "new" brands of DPs in the stores around Chritmas time and now they are gone The problem with buying one is even if they are good they have no reputation and you can't ask people about them, and you absolutely can not buy a DP based on the specification because the most important characteristics of a DP are not listed in the specs -- that would be the feel of the keys and the realism of the sound. Polyphony, number of voices and all that masters very little if the keus and sound are poor. So you absolutely have to play the DP for some time and compare it side by side with others yourself. Another consideration: what happen in four years if you need service or a repair part? What will you find an authorized factory service center? This is what you pay for when you spend the higher price for a Roland or Yamaha or even Casio, they have a support network and considerable world wide service infrastructure A good test before you buy is to try and order a part. Pretend like you broke a key and need it replaced.
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#1349568 - 01/14/10 04:26 PM
Re: STEINBACK digital piano
[Re: Morodiene]
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Registered: 05/01/09
Posts: 177
Loc: No. Va.
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Fischer-Price is brand name :P  I bought my DP without playing it first. It came out good, but I wouldn't recommend it. A DP is a musical instrument, in spite of what some would have you believe, and the most important aspect of any musical instrument is feel(playability) and sound. You can't be sure the instrument will meet those expectations until you get it in your hot little hands. The reason I bought mine sight unseen was because I'm on a limited budget and so my choices were very limited in the first place. The only options I had in my price range were both Casio, the CDP100 or the Privia PX120. It was one of those two or nothing. I chose the 120 because the specs were better. However, I spent months researching my options, and stuck with a well known brand name from an established company that got really good reviews in it's price range. I can assure you, I would not have bought an off brand or unfamiliar brand of DP no matter the specs, even if it blew the Casio out of the water on paper. Stick with the popular brands, like Casio, Yamaha, Korg, etc. You'd probably be better off buying the bottom of the barrel Casio CDP100 than the one you're asking about, but I'd go at least a step up and get the Casio Privia PX130 if I could afford it. MHO.
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#1349635 - 01/14/10 05:29 PM
Re: STEINBACK digital piano
[Re: MacMacMac]
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Registered: 01/19/09
Posts: 62
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There is nothing wrong with starting your career with an instrument with fewer keys like the Fisher-Price. They are very cheap and make an excellent replacement for a grand piano or upright, which will typically cause your neighbors to set your house on fire. The 8 keys provided by the Fisher-Price model are more than enough for many classical melodies. Bach, Mozart, Chopin, etc. all composed in the key of C. Thousands of virtuoso pianists and music majors rely on Fisher- Price when they are unable to take a full-size instrument to practice such as on a bus, subway, in an elevator, public lavatory, etc.
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#1349656 - 01/14/10 05:59 PM
Re: STEINBACK digital piano
[Re: meep]
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2000 Post Club Member
Registered: 09/24/09
Posts: 2342
Loc: Florida
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There is nothing wrong with starting your career with an instrument with fewer keys like the Fisher-Price. They are very cheap and make an excellent replacement for a grand piano or upright, which will typically cause your neighbors to set your house on fire. The 8 keys provided by the Fisher-Price model are more than enough for many classical melodies. Bach, Mozart, Chopin, etc. all composed in the key of C. Thousands of virtuoso pianists and music majors rely on Fisher- Price when they are unable to take a full-size instrument to practice such as on a bus, subway, in an elevator, public lavatory, etc. I read this and my jaw dropped. I thought this was a Gyro post ... and I thought this was a new low. Then I saw your name. Ya got me. 
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#1349768 - 01/14/10 08:07 PM
Re: STEINBACK digital piano
[Re: meep]
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7000 Post Club Member
Registered: 04/06/07
Posts: 7496
Loc: Boynton Beach, FL
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There is nothing wrong with starting your career with an instrument with fewer keys like the Fisher-Price. They are very cheap and make an excellent replacement for a grand piano or upright, which will typically cause your neighbors to set your house on fire. The 8 keys provided by the Fisher-Price model are more than enough for many classical melodies. Bach, Mozart, Chopin, etc. all composed in the key of C. Thousands of virtuoso pianists and music majors rely on Fisher- Price when they are unable to take a full-size instrument to practice such as on a bus, subway, in an elevator, public lavatory, etc. You forgot to mention your $100,000 Steinway concert grand is now sitting in storage because you like the Fischer-Price one better.
Edited by Morodiene (01/14/10 08:07 PM)
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