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#1348606 - 01/13/10 01:39 PM Choosing an electric piano
Agito Offline
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Hey guys I'm new here
My name is Danny I'm 17 from Israel and I'm a bass player.

I want to start piano/keyboard seriously.
I've done my research and came to the conclusion that i need an electric piano (Consulted with friends etc)
Now...
I'm leaning towards the Casio models
all the Privia PX Models
Which are the following:

PX110
PX120
PX130
PX310
PX320
PX330
PX730 (or 720?)

I'm looking for good piano, Hammond and Rhodes sounds (Good string sounds can be great too)
If it has a pitch wheel It'll be cool.

The big question is if it's worth to buy the more expensive model then the cheap what and what's the differences,I'm planning to play seriously the piano and the keyboard.

I prefer the Casio cause it's price is pretty good and I really love the sound of it the big minus is that I read some pointy key issues and the Casio Privia got a lot of models which some of them I can buy second hand.

Thanks
Danny.

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#1348617 - 01/13/10 01:58 PM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: Agito]
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If you want a pitch wheel, the PX330 has it. It is the newest Privia model.
The older PX575 with 32 polyphony has a pitch wheel.
I haven't heard their Hammond Rhodes or strings, other players prefer more expensive models of other brands for these sounds. The Casio will get you started on piano, I have a PX200.


Edited by guest1013 (01/13/10 01:59 PM)

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#1348629 - 01/13/10 02:10 PM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: Agito]
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Danny, if you're looking for good Hammond and Rhodes sounds in addition to the acoustic piano emulation, you will not get those from the Privia series. While the EPs in the PX-110, PX-310 and PX-130/330 are OK, they don't really give you a true Rhodes emulation. However, there's a passable Wurlitzer in those models (60s piano). I certainly wouldn't even consider the 120/320 as, IMHO, the EPs are very poor. Only the 130/330 have pitch wheels.

As for Hammond, forget it!

If you're budget is tight, I would suggest that you look out for a used Casio WK 3500 or WK3700. There is a good selection of EPs on those boards, and you also get "drawbar" organs plus Leslie simulation, along with pitch and modulation wheels (the mod wheel controls the Leslie ramp up/down). You could use one of those as a second tier above your Privia. You might even be able to get away with a CTK5000. Although there is no "Leslie" on the more recent Casios, if you add a Behringer RM600 pedal you will have a surprisingly good and inexpensive rotary emulator.

One other alternative: a lot of people have indicated that the old Yamaha P120 offered one of the best Rhodes patches.

Good luck!
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#1348635 - 01/13/10 02:19 PM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: voxpops]
Agito Offline
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I heard the Hammond on the the Privia and i kinda like it, It's pretty cool for something in this budget...
Pitch wheel is not a must, It's just a cool feature that i would like...
And the WK's are 76, I'm looking for 88 Keys with hammer weight
I'm not looking for amazing Rhodes or Hammond emulation, Just a decent sound I can play with and that will sound nice.

Thanks.

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#1348652 - 01/13/10 02:44 PM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: Agito]
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Agito, I was not suggesting the WKs as an alternative to the Privia, but in addition to (for EPs, organs and synths - definitely NOT acoustic piano). However, if you like the sound of the Privia organs/Eps there's no problem - just go ahead and buy the one that suits you best!

I would suggest either the older 310 or the new 330. The 3xx series has quarter-inch lineouts for connecting to amplification as well as registration memories etc. The older 310, despite its lower polyphony sounds pretty good in a band context, IMO, and should be available at a very good price now. The new 330 has the pitch wheel and a more sophisticated piano sound.
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#1348677 - 01/13/10 03:13 PM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: voxpops]
Agito Offline
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This one dude in the Privia thread said he likes the 310 more then the 330
And I have read some bad stuff about the 330

Should i go for it?

And another question, Maybe i should get a Casio Privia 130? What's the difference between the 130 and the 330?

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#1348701 - 01/13/10 03:40 PM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: Agito]
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I liked the 310 more than the 320 - can't say anything about the 330 as mine doesn't arrive until tomorrow! I did find that the 320 hurt my fingers/wrists after extended playing, and I preferred the non-AP sounds in the 310.

If you're going to be using the piano in a band/gig context, I would avoid the 1xx series. There are no lineouts - you have to use the mini headphone sockets and that's a recipe for disaster! Also the lack of registration memories means you can't store your favorite setups for instant recall. However, if you're only going to be using it at home for practice, the 130 should be fine.
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#1348717 - 01/13/10 03:54 PM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: voxpops]
Agito Offline
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I see
I'm probably going to use it at home but I still want it to sound good and have some options
And what do you mean by no lineouts?
Does the 330 got the same problem with the headphonee?

I think I'll wait till you get yours and then you can tell me better P:

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#1348731 - 01/13/10 04:13 PM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: Agito]
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The 310, 320 and 330 all have line connectors which allow you to send the piano's audio signal to an external amplifier. These connectors are fairly robust and so are OK for use on stage. If you have to connect a piano to external equipment using mini headphone connectors - as with the 110, 120 and 130 - you may get inferior quality, and you risk the small plugs bending, breaking or getting easily pulled out. There is nothing inherently wrong with the headphone sockets, it's just that they are only designed for headphones and not for connecting to stage amplifiers or mixers.
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#1348743 - 01/13/10 04:29 PM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: voxpops]
Agito Offline
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I see, Is there any other differences between the 330 and the 130?
Cause the 130 is a lot cheaper

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#1348751 - 01/13/10 04:36 PM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: Agito]
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Check out this site:
http://www.casio.com/products/Musical_Instruments/Privia_Digital_Pianos/

Pay particular attention to the Technical Specs of each piano.

To put it simply, the 330 is more of a "band-in-a-box", and the 130 is a fairly simple and easy-to-use home piano.
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#1348759 - 01/13/10 04:48 PM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: voxpops]
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The 330 has an LCD and buttons, which is nice. The 130 control is clunkier because it uses the keyboard to select stuff, something I kind of hate.

I wasn't very impressed the other sounds in the 330, fairly poor actually. The only way I would consider the entire line is if I was primarily interested in the piano sample.

You really ought to try out both the 130 and 330 yourself though. The piano sample in both is probably the same, and the amplifier/speakers are rated the same. If you can tolerate the 130 control, that's probably the best value (for piano only).
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#1348763 - 01/13/10 04:50 PM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: dewster]
Agito Offline
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I know the 330 got more sound options the question is how much sounds and if they are ok...
The 130 got only 1 of each kind right?
1 Organ (Or 2)
1 EP
ETC...

Am i right?

EDIT:
Should i look for the 120/110/320/310 or only the 130 and the 330?

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#1348777 - 01/13/10 05:02 PM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: Agito]
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Originally Posted By: Agito
I know the 330 got more sound options the question is how much sounds and if they are ok...
The 130 got only 1 of each kind right?
1 Organ (Or 2)
1 EP
ETC...

Am i right?

EDIT:
Should i look for the 120/110/320/310 or only the 130 and the 330?


Here is a link to a Casio keyboard page:

Casio Keyboard Manuals

Download the manuals and see if they can answer some of your questions. I've only looked at the 130 and 330 in the store. I believe they are the newest, and you generally don't want older DPs.
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#1349100 - 01/14/10 12:02 AM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: dewster]
Agito Offline
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I'll go check them both out and see for myself if I prefer one over the other

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#1350234 - 01/15/10 07:18 AM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: Agito]
Agito Offline
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UPDATE:
OK, I'll probably go for the PX130, Didn't really like the 330, It might not have the options that the 330 has but all the additional options are kinda bad...
I don't know about technical differences but I like the 130 more, For some reason I feel that the 130 got more character then the 330
I played both for like hour and a half and I don't think paying 300 bucks for the 330 options worth it....

So basically I'll go for the 130 but before I do so, What are the technical differences? Like outputs and stuff you know (And rhythms etc...)

EDIT: Should I wait for the new Korg models or anything new to come out or should I go for the Casio?


Edited by Agito (01/15/10 07:34 AM)

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#1351004 - 01/16/10 10:12 AM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: Agito]
Agito Offline
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Little bump, What are the main differences between the 330 and the 130?

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#1351033 - 01/16/10 10:42 AM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: Agito]
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Originally Posted By: Agito
Little bump, What are the main differences between the 330 and the 130?

Others that own them can chime in here, but I believe the keys, piano sample, and speakers / amp are the same in the 130 and 330.

I wasn't too interested it the other features when I was trying them out at the store as I was mainly looking for possible DP recommendations for my wife's students.

The 130 only has 16 tones, no auto accompany, no line-out, no pitch bend wheel, no saving to external memory, and no MIDI DIN ports (but there is USB MIDI). If you can live with that without crying yourself to sleep every night then maybe that is the one you want. It's good that you demoed both.
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#1351692 - 01/17/10 05:13 AM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: dewster]
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Originally Posted By: dewster
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Also 330 has rhythms and 130 does not.

Compare:
http://www.casio-europe.com/euro/emi/privia/px330/
http://www.casio-europe.com/euro/emi/privia/px130/

I don't cry myself to sleep every night because I bought the px-130 - I do it for other reasons.
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#1351788 - 01/17/10 10:03 AM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: Pianisti]
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So I bought the Casio Privia PX-130 and I'm so freaking happy with it
I'm really really satisfied from the sound and comfort and the stuff that came with it

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#1351809 - 01/17/10 10:40 AM Re: Choosing an electric piano [Re: Agito]
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Loc: N. California
Congratulations on your decision and purchase! Now you can get down to having some fun laugh!
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