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#1356695 - 01/23/10 10:11 PM
Quick- need help with program
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Registered: 07/29/05
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Loc: wisconsin
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Silly question, but really, if someone is doing 3 short pieces by the same composer, do I write:
Minuet folk song gavotte................................. Beethoven
Or: Minuet..........................Beethoven Folk Song.....................Beethoven Gavotte.........................Beethoven
Or: Minuet...................Beethoven Folk Song Gavotte
I assumed the first was right, but it doesn't look right! Any other ideas?
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#1356702 - 01/23/10 10:27 PM
Re: Quick- need help with program
[Re: CarolR]
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I'm not sure, but I would disagree: I would say NOT the first one, but maybe the second or third.
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#1356753 - 01/23/10 11:51 PM
Re: Quick- need help with program
[Re: CarolR]
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Of the options you gave, I personally would go for:
Minuet (followed by blank space) Beethoven Folk Song Gavotte
that is, without the dots. The dots seem to be what makes option 1 and 3 look odd, IMO. They link only one of the pieces to Beethoven and you might be left wondering about the other two. If you can't live without dots, I'd go for option 2.
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#1356775 - 01/24/10 12:13 AM
Re: Quick- need help with program
[Re: currawong]
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Registered: 12/11/07
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If you leave out the dots, then the PW program zips the word Beethoven beside the Minuet. It doesn't recognize the space bar apparently. (I just checked).
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#1356790 - 01/24/10 12:35 AM
Re: Quick- need help with program
[Re: currawong]
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If you don't mind a suggestion I think I would consider limiting it to the Minuet and Gavotte and remove the folk song since 2 are dance forms, and the is folk song. I don't know which pieces you are working with because they are generic names, but the sound of them together needs to work, not only the fact that they are by Beethoven.
And I like your 3rd example with the order of the slowest piece first moving to a faster piece, with the fastest or more rhythmically interesting being the 3rd piece. Something that produces enthusiastic applause for this performer.
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#1356808 - 01/24/10 01:20 AM
Re: Quick- need help with program
[Re: Betty Patnude]
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And I like your 3rd example with the order of the slowest piece first moving to a faster piece, with the fastest or more rhythmically interesting being the 3rd piece. Just to be clear, the order of pieces is the same in all three examples - it was the format of printing Carol was asking about.
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#1356944 - 01/24/10 09:56 AM
Re: Quick- need help with program
[Re: currawong]
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The third is what I've seen most often, but I've seen the second as well.
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#1356975 - 01/24/10 10:47 AM
Re: Quick- need help with program
[Re: Kreisler]
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Right - these aren't the pieces or the composer, I was just asking about formatting. I realized that what makes the format look wrong is that this girl is playing another piece, after the first three, by another composer, so if I write it the third way, you can't really tell who the composer is. Ah - maybe if I put a space between them. Anyway, recital is in 3 hours, lots to do! Thanks for your thoughts.
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#1356987 - 01/24/10 11:10 AM
Re: Quick- need help with program
[Re: CarolR]
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Carol, I'm not sure I'm answering your question, but when I do programs, which I do for my studio's recital and for our chapters group recitals, I always attribute a composer/arranger to each and every piece. They're entitled to that.
Also, in my feeble attempt to educate the public at large, I always add opus numbers (or WoO, BWV Anh, etc.)
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#1357001 - 01/24/10 11:27 AM
Re: Quick- need help with program
[Re: John v.d.Brook]
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Registered: 01/11/10
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I agree with John. Include any references you can, and attribute each separate piece to the composer, unless all three are movements of a larger work, in which case just use the title of the larger work, or some similar layout.
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