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#1362753 - 01/31/10 11:03 PM Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions
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Believe it or not, our 17th quarterly Piano World Adult Beginners Forum recital approaches! The recital will be posted some time on the 15th of February, which means that the submissions must be in by 9:00 pm EST, February 14. Please note this deadline is very firm; I cannot start working on the recital until it is closed, and once it is closed, no new entries can be added.

While any and all styles of music are welcome, we do ask that it be piano related.

If you are fairly new to the piano, please do not be intimidated by some of the talent here in the ABF. We all consider ourselves to be beginners even though we may have been playing for some time. And, we LOVE to hear recordings from folks new to the keyboard. So even if you’re on your first Alfred’s method book, we would *really* enjoy hearing from you.

Recital submissions should be in MP3 format. The maximum size of the file is 20 MB. We recommend encoding the recording at 192 kbs with a constant bitrate, as that works best with the online streaming player. At that bitrate, a 20 MB file works out to be about 7 minutes in length. Your recording will be normalized when placed in the consolidated zip files, but your original link will still be available for those who want it.

If you are new to recording your music, there are several threads in the forum archives that address the ways and means. See the "Important Topics in the AB Forum" thread stickied at the top of the AB forum page. Audacity is an excellent "free" recording application that can be used.

Submitting Your Recording:

We will be using again the absolutely marvelous automatic web-based recital program that mahlzeit wrote for us. And thanks to LaValse's extremely generous offer to host the recital program and zip files on his server, it is no longer necessary to upload your mp3 files to box.net or some other file hosting server prior to submitting it to the recital. You will upload your mp3 file to the recital server as part of the recital submission process.

When you have your mp3 file ready, go to:

http://abf.make247.co.uk/

and follow the instructions there. Once you have uploaded your info to the automated recital website, you will receive a confirmation e-mail. You will have the opportunity to revise your submission any time up until the deadline. If you have any problems at all using the new website, or if you do not receive a confirmation e-mail within a few hours, just PM me. If you have not participated in past recitals using this software, you may want to submit your recital piece at least a day in advance in case you run into any problems with it. (Though there should be no problems. Mahlzeit is a genius. heart )

Mahlzeit's website will use the following submission template to be filled out along with your attached music file. You may want to have your responses to these fields prepared in advance so all you have to do is cut and paste:

Performer's Name: {forum ID and real name if you’d like}
Where you are located: {optional}
Avatar image link: {optional}
Experience: {Yrs/Mos of piano playing experience}
Link to YouTube or other video: {optional}
Home page link: {optional}
Title of piece/composer:
Source of music: {sheet music, improvised score, play-by-ear, etc}
Instrument used: {Piano make, keyboard model, etc.}
Recording method: {audacity, Zoom, digital to PC, etc.}
Constructive technical feedback wanted: {Yes/No}
Additional Info: {Your thoughts on the piece, etc. etc.}


The due date for all submissions is 9:00 pm US EASTERN TIME on February 14, 2010.

Did I mention that the 9:00 pm deadline was firm?

Think "consistency of concrete." smokin

By submitting a piece to the recital, you are certifying that it is an amateur recording of your own performance.

Again, the recital order will be presented in the order the pieces were received, so the sooner you send in your piece, the higher you will be on the list! This serves to reward the folks who feel on top of their game, and it's about as fair as I can think of for all parties. You can revise your entries on the template (e.g., thoughts about your piece, adding YouTube links, and the like) any time and not lose your place in the recital queue, but if you resubmit your recording at any time, for any reason, you will be bumped to the end of the list.

Should anyone have any questions at all on what to do or how to do it, this is the place to ask. Remember, there are NO stupid questions, as we have a steady flow of new members in AB forum for whom this is their first recital, so your questions will probably help to eliminate other members’ problems. Please ask away!

Let's all go out and brave that Red Dot and share a lot of beautiful music! smile

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#1362766 - 01/31/10 11:20 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: AB Forum Recital]
BenPiano Offline
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I'm ready to submit, but I don't wanna be first. smokin

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#1362773 - 01/31/10 11:28 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: BenPiano]
AnthonyB Offline
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Registered: 09/28/07
Posts: 659
Loc: Center City, MN
I'm in the middle of another file upload so I'll have to wait until that is finished before I think of uploading my piece. My upload would likely take too long otherwise causing it to fail. I wouldn't want that now would I?

I'm sure someone will get something uploaded before me as I'll be at least a half hour. smile
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#1362785 - 01/31/10 11:38 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: AnthonyB]
Always Wanted to Play Piano Offline
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Loc: Chicago
Oh, not already?

I'm going to be an 11th hour submitted again.
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#1362794 - 01/31/10 11:49 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: Always Wanted to Play Piano]
jotur Offline
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Loc: Santa Fe, NM
Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack!

Cathy
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#1362869 - 02/01/10 01:29 AM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: jotur]
AnotherSchmoe Offline
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Registered: 02/15/06
Posts: 499
Loc: Arkansas
Eek, already! shocked

I'll go ahead and submit a Chopin prelude that I made a decent recording of a couple of days ago, which I am happy with. Though I'm hoping to have something else at performance level by the 14th (either Open Arms by Journey or Eyes On Me from FF8), and I'll replace it and bump myself down the list if I do. If I can't get anything else to where I'm happy with it by then I'll just leave the prelude up.
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#1362883 - 02/01/10 01:49 AM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: AnotherSchmoe]
z32 Offline
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Registered: 03/07/07
Posts: 167
Loc: California
lol Didn't even know there was a recital going on! Wanted to post my piece in the Feb. piano bar, but since this is up, decided to enter it here instead!

smile

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#1362901 - 02/01/10 02:17 AM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: z32]
Teodor Offline
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Posts: 945
Loc: Bulgaria
I'll submit an entry too, I'm working on a short beginner piece by Beethoven right now.
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#1362997 - 02/01/10 06:57 AM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: Teodor]
TrapperJohn Offline
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Registered: 02/11/08
Posts: 3574
Loc: Chocolatetown, USA
Question: what is the easiest way to link to one's avatar in the optional fields area of the submission form? Thanks in advance.

JF
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#1363009 - 02/01/10 07:35 AM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: TrapperJohn]
Bunneh Offline
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Registered: 06/08/08
Posts: 399
Loc: Berlin
1a. (Firefox) Rightclick your avatar in any of your posts, choose "copy image location",
1b. (IE) Rightclick your avatar in any of your posts, choose "properties", mark the text under "address", CTRL-C to copy,

2. go to the field in the form, press ctrl-v to paste
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#1363027 - 02/01/10 08:20 AM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: Bunneh]
TrapperJohn Offline
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Posts: 3574
Loc: Chocolatetown, USA
Bunneh - Thanks much! I started in that direction but didn't think to chose "properties".

JF
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#1363142 - 02/01/10 10:54 AM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: TrapperJohn]
Albany Offline
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Registered: 07/09/09
Posts: 99
Loc: France
Hi can I use a harpsichord sound for my submission ? (digital piano) Or is it only piano sound? thanks

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#1363154 - 02/01/10 11:15 AM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: Albany]
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Registered: 08/10/05
Posts: 17777
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Harpsichord sound is fine, Albany. smile We've even had some of the full-blown "band in the box" submissions with other accompaniments, too. All that's necessary is that a keyboard of some sort was involved in making the music.

I can't believe we've got 18 submissions already!! wow
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#1363179 - 02/01/10 11:50 AM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: Monica K.]
Inlanding Offline
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Registered: 08/05/09
Posts: 1649
Loc: Colorado
Whew! My first e-cital/recital ever. Yes, the little red light does play a factor.

Thanks for setting this up, Monica.

This is fun!

Glen
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#1363217 - 02/01/10 12:31 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: Inlanding]
Manndrew Offline
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Registered: 04/23/08
Posts: 267
Loc: Massachusetts
I don't know if it was the song, but this time I was really beginning to get annoyed with the re-takes. It's such a predicament. In the beginning, our first takes are fresh, but the mistakes kind of throw a monkey wrench into it. Then, when we finally get the piece reasonably under our fingers, it's lost it's freshness and musically it ain't too good although the notes may be right. Do you share this dilemma? The answer may be to set lower expectations as far as pieces, choose something that can be done without wearing out the record button and have a more spontaneous result. Thanks for listening to the rant. In May I'll probably be back to 10 redos and leaving a trail of expletives from the piano to the living room.

Andy
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#1363279 - 02/01/10 01:33 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: Manndrew]
Strings & Wood Offline


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Registered: 05/22/08
Posts: 1838
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: Manndrew
I don't know if it was the song, but this time I was really beginning to get annoyed with the re-takes. It's such a predicament. In the beginning, our first takes are fresh, but the mistakes kind of throw a monkey wrench into it. Then, when we finally get the piece reasonably under our fingers, it's lost it's freshness and musically it ain't too good although the notes may be right. Do you share this dilemma? The answer may be to set lower expectations as far as pieces, choose something that can be done without wearing out the record button and have a more spontaneous result. Thanks for listening to the rant. In May I'll probably be back to 10 redos and leaving a trail of expletives from the piano to the living room.

Andy


Similar thoughts shared. Maybe something light and bright for May... flowers and all you know.
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#1363315 - 02/01/10 02:36 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: Strings & Wood]
BenPiano Offline
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Registered: 11/23/09
Posts: 1171
Loc: US
I've taken the liberty to familiarize myself with some of the pieces already showing on the list.

Sorry, Ken, but when I search for, "Minuet fait par Monsieur Bohm" on You Tube I get:

"No videos found for “Minuet fait par Monsieur Bohm”"

and this redirected search: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Minuet+fait+par+Monsieur+Bohm&search_type=&aq=f

After the initial disappointment of having no search results, the topic of the redirected search made me laugh (juvenile, I know).

So, Ken, here's wishing your submission is much more in tune and better sounding than these search results! laugh
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#1363428 - 02/01/10 04:26 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: BenPiano]
Mr Super-Hunky Offline
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Registered: 04/17/05
Posts: 4236
Loc: Arizona.
Mines in and trust me when I say I had to dig deep for this one!

I ended up playing an original piece by ear I've been using to practice fingering and scales with.

I'm doing something really stupid and that is to restart the recording every time I make a mistake. While this is a good method should you want to make a zillion attempts at getting a good one, it is inefficent as hell..(not to mention nerve racking!)

From now on I'm going with the *leave the recorder on the entire time* method. My wife, dog, cat and sanity will be all the better for it I'm sure.

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#1363514 - 02/01/10 06:33 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: jotur]
Peyton Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 2555
Loc: Maine
Originally Posted By: jotur
Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack!

Cathy


Battle of Britain? laugh
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#1363569 - 02/01/10 08:20 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: Peyton]
ShiroKuro Online   content
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Loc: not in Japan anymore
Argh! I don't know if I'll be ready to submit in time. The two recordings I have now are... in a word, sucky.
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#1363574 - 02/01/10 08:24 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: Peyton]
jotur Offline
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Registered: 09/16/06
Posts: 5530
Loc: Santa Fe, NM
Originally Posted By: Peyton
Originally Posted By: jotur
Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack!

Cathy


Battle of Britain? laugh


LOL

Cathy
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#1363576 - 02/01/10 08:26 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: Peyton]
TTigg Offline
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Registered: 11/30/07
Posts: 873
Loc: Southern California
Originally Posted By: Peyton
Originally Posted By: jotur
Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack!

Cathy


Battle of Britain? laugh


Eh up steady on now (many Brits in 'ere) smile Hmmmm, well I guess I'm almost ready to take a crack at one of two possibles, going to be a busy weekend!
- SC
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#1363589 - 02/01/10 08:51 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: TTigg]
CMohr Offline

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Posts: 1029
Loc: Oregon
Just got back into town - we were up in the mountains for our anniversary, for 10 days. heart (I did practice every day - took my keyboard with.)

Holy moly! 21 submissions on the first day?! Time for me to get really busy recording! Going with the Bach this time - hope I can get a decent recording soon!
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#1363769 - 02/02/10 01:36 AM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: BenPiano]
Ken. Offline
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Posts: 286
Originally Posted By: BenPiano
I've taken the liberty to familiarize myself with some of the pieces already showing on the list.

Sorry, Ken, but when I search for, "Minuet fait par Monsieur Bohm" on You Tube I get:

"No videos found for “Minuet fait par Monsieur Bohm”"

and this redirected search: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Minuet+fait+par+Monsieur+Bohm&search_type=&aq=f

After the initial disappointment of having no search results, the topic of the redirected search made me laugh (juvenile, I know).

So, Ken, here's wishing your submission is much more in tune and better sounding than these search results! laugh

LOL. That was funny
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#1363816 - 02/02/10 03:24 AM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: Ken.]
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I can't believe it's time for another recital. Time sure is flying by. I sure would like to try to squeeze something in, but my past track record hasn't been to good. I do enjoy listening to everyones efforts...keep it up.

Les
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#1363831 - 02/02/10 04:06 AM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: ShiroKuro]
TrapperJohn Offline
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Registered: 02/11/08
Posts: 3574
Loc: Chocolatetown, USA
Originally Posted By: ShiroKuro
Argh! I don't know if I'll be ready to submit in time. The two recordings I have now are... in a word, sucky.


Translation: "sucky" for ShiroKuro means "near sublime perfection" for most of the rest of us smile

JF
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#1364062 - 02/02/10 01:35 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: TrapperJohn]
LaValse Offline
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Posts: 1224
Loc: Mumbles, Wales
The ABF server has been down all afternoon (UK). Resolved now. If you failed to upload earlier, try again, it should be OK. Let me know if not. Ta.
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#1364158 - 02/02/10 04:17 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: Mr Super-Hunky]
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Loc: Edinburgh
Originally Posted By: mr_super-hunky

I'm doing something really stupid and that is to restart the recording every time I make a mistake. While this is a good method should you want to make a zillion attempts at getting a good one, it is inefficent as hell..(not to mention nerve racking!)

From now on I'm going with the *leave the recorder on the entire time* method. My wife, dog, cat and sanity will be all the better for it I'm sure.


You know, for 16 recitals in a row I have been using the stop-start method. It involves... click on Stop, Control+F [file], Control+N [new song], N [do i want to save previous], and then click on Start... each time I make a mistake.

No wonder I have been gradually worn down mentally by that Red Dot! Time to try the 'leave it alone' method! smile

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#1364168 - 02/02/10 04:27 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: Euan Morrison]
AnthonyB Offline
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Registered: 09/28/07
Posts: 659
Loc: Center City, MN
I just played my recital piece a few times without having the camera and red dot going. That sure felt nice for a change.

I usually go with the just keep playing strategy especially early on when I know the entire piece still needs work. Just remember that playing the rest of the piece after some sort of mistake should at least be easier since you messed up and took all that pressure off.

However, once I get a few decent takes I can get into the stop/start mode especially if I have not made it all that far before the unfortunate blunder. However, I will still play to completion from time to time just to keep the other parts of the song fresh for that time when I do make it there so I don't bomb that part due to lack of playing it. It can be a difficult balance sometimes. smile

There may be one or two points in my recital recording where I managed to hit some adjacent notes but when I go back and ponder exactly how many notes I hit correctly during that 4:06 or so it really is a good performance overall!
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#1364337 - 02/02/10 09:37 PM Re: Recital #17 --- Call For Submissions [Re: TrapperJohn]
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Originally Posted By: John Frank
Originally Posted By: ShiroKuro
Argh! I don't know if I'll be ready to submit in time. The two recordings I have now are... in a word, sucky.


Translation: "sucky" for ShiroKuro means "near sublime perfection" for most of the rest of us smile

JF


JF, I am torn between whether I should protest or say thank you! While I do appreciate the vote of confidence, in this case sucky does really mean sucky. Sigh. I had a good practice this morning though, so I remain hopeful.

And by the way, I highly recommend the "play through" approach, it does something to the nerves when you stop and re-start the recorder at every mistake.

My approach is to make several "practice" recordings, until suddenly one of them sounds good enough to submit. I try to give the best possible perform I can, but I try not to get hung up on "I need to get a recording to submit." So I always assume I am going to play all the way to the end, and use whatever recording I get as a learning tool. And I try to refrain from judging the playing as I play (i.e. no thinking "oh, this could be the clip I submit"). I just try to focus on playing it and enjoying it. It might take a little longer this way, but for me anyway, it makes the recording process a lot less stressful.

Of course, that's what I'm saying now. Ask me again on Feb 13th...
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