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#1378195 - 02/19/10 01:51 PM Re: Why We Dont Have Famous Female Composer In History ? [Re: daro]
RonaldSteinway Offline
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Originally Posted By: daro
Originally Posted By: RonaldSteinway
Let's not discuss something in the past (different conditions). Let's talk something far more smaller scale such as song writing, arranging, conducting, etc. For the last 50 years, it seems that men have dominated the top positions, such as John Williams, Ennio Morricone, Marvin Hamlsich, etc, etc.

Have there been a big name female arrangers, conductors, song writers, etc, etc. I cannot think one.

Don't women have the same freedom to sit and write a 2 ot 3 min songs? Women have exactly the same opportunities. But they still do not produce music at the same level as men. What is missing in this equition?


Diane Warren is probably the most successful songwriter in the world alive right now, with over 80 Top 10 hits, and a career that very few men in history have ever even come close to matching.

Anyway, I hope you realize that with every post, you're providing the women's rights movement with evidence that men have absolutely no intelligence at all.



Ok, I now know that there is a great a female song writer among thousands of men. So what a big deal, she is just an aberration.
You proved my point that there is no restriction, the good ones will come to the surface. Apparently, there are not many....


Edited by RonaldSteinway (02/19/10 01:53 PM)

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#1378200 - 02/19/10 01:54 PM Re: Why We Dont Have Famous Female Composer In History ? [Re: RonaldSteinway]
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Wait a minute.

Ron, first you said in another thread that those who are bad at performing go into composing.

And now you're saying that there are no female composers because composing requires greater skill?

I'm lost.
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#1378212 - 02/19/10 02:03 PM Re: Why We Dont Have Famous Female Composer In History ? [Re: RonaldSteinway]
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Loc: Europe
Originally Posted By: RonaldSteinway
Ok, I now know that there is a great a female song writer among thousands of men. So what a big deal, she is just an aberration.
You proved my point that there is no restriction, the good ones will come to the surface. Apparently, there are not many....
Hmmm...

Here's a different take on the same issue:

The fact that (at least) 1 famous song writter exists (while we have mentioned many more, but hey... feel free to ignore what you wish), means that:
a. Female CAN indeed compose as well as males.
but
b. They cannot procceed due to social reasons and male stubborness!
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#1378215 - 02/19/10 02:04 PM Re: Why We Dont Have Famous Female Composer In History ? [Re: Nikolas]
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On second thought I think that the following is much a better course of action:


Don't feed the troll
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#1378227 - 02/19/10 02:16 PM Re: Why We Dont Have Famous Female Composer In History ? [Re: Nikolas]
gooddog Offline
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Registered: 06/08/08
Posts: 4791
Loc: Seattle area, WA
It is clear from Steinway's posts that he accepts heresay as evidence and speaks from what appears to be a cultural norm for the backward society where he lives. (Asian females are easier to control than white females?) Go back to your cave.

TROLL, Troll, troll, troll. I'm done.
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#1378242 - 02/19/10 02:44 PM Re: Why We Dont Have Famous Female Composer In History ? [Re: gooddog]
stores Offline
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Registered: 12/28/09
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Loc: Here, as opposed to there
Ronald, may I ask what you do for a living? Will you respond to THIS query (since you, apparently, won't answer my last), or are you afraid of entering into a conversation/debate with someone of superior intelligence (call it conceit, if you must, but, I think you've rather demonstrated, quite well, that the evolutionary process has not fully extended itself to all).
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#1378264 - 02/19/10 03:30 PM Re: Why We Dont Have Famous Female Composer In History ? [Re: stores]
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Loc: Not in Texas
This thread has long since stopped having any semblance of rationality and is quickly losing its grip on the original topic. Closed.
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