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#1382612 - 02/25/10 11:12 AM Re: Excessive ledger lines? [Re: riley80]
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I'm fine reading 5 leger lines; more than that gets tricky.

The way they're used in the original example looks fine to me; would be hard to reasonably notate otherwise.

What gets to me is music software or engravings that, in a high passage, run the ledger lines together horizontally, so it looks like you're reading a ten-line staff!

Also I hate the treble clef with the tiny 8 sign under it (used where a long passage is 8va, as an alternative to the 8va sign). The 8 is often so tiny, I practice the passage loco for quite a while before realizing it!
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#1382622 - 02/25/10 11:24 AM Re: Excessive ledger lines? [Re: Mark_C]
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Thanks buck for the Grieg lyric piece Opus 57-6 ... m36-41

As experienced by the motley, these measures in the 6th keyboard octave are not easy to sight-read ... especially involving a whole passage of music ... shouldn’t Grieg have ducked down with an 8va to the 5th octave ... as suggested by many .

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#1382636 - 02/25/10 11:41 AM Re: Excessive ledger lines? [Re: Elissa Milne]
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Originally Posted By: Elissa Milne
I don't quite understand your question/observation, wr. Clefs only change if you are moving which register you are using. So if a whole piece was in an extreme register it might make sense to use a clef which signified that everything was two octaves higher than written, but if you are darting about high and low it is often less effort to keep things in the standard clef but signify the register change through 8va and 15ma......

Yes.....I haven't really understood how the clefs thing came into this discussion, even speaking as someone who's a little used to those different clefs.

BTW.....about the "tangential" discussion on the other thread.....may I put a reply on your blog? (I don't do PM). If so, let me know where I might do it. I think it's better not to get into it any more on the thread itself. Thanks very much again for your thoughts and support.
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#1382649 - 02/25/10 12:01 PM Re: Excessive ledger lines? [Re: Mark_C]
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Quel minable!

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#1382699 - 02/25/10 01:02 PM Re: Excessive ledger lines? [Re: landorrano]
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(Don't you want to put that in the "second person plural"?) ha
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#1382735 - 02/25/10 01:43 PM Re: Excessive ledger lines? [Re: Mark_C]
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You're pathetic, Mark C.

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#1382739 - 02/25/10 01:46 PM Re: Excessive ledger lines? [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
(Don't you want to put that in the "second person plural"?) ha


Vous êtes un minable, un pauvre type.

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