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#1391208 - 03/08/10 11:09 AM Korg SP-250 demo and impressions
Salvador Offline
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Registered: 12/28/09
Posts: 39
Here's a video of my new Korg SP-250 digital piano:
Korg SP-250 Demo
My impressions:
Sound - I was quite disappointed with most of the sounds when I heard them at home. The one I liked the most is the vibraphone. The piano sounds are good and resounding in the low and high range, but mid-range sounds poor and almost looses its piano character (a problem that many DPs have, though). BUT, today, when I hooked it to a large speaker on a gig, it sounded well, especially using piano and strings together.
Touch - It has this sticker on the rightmost key that says RH3. I'm no expert in DPs, but the touch is very soft for my taste, but feels much like a real piano.
The damper pedal is well-built. It sits on one of the stand's rods comfortably.
What's not comfortable is the weight of this piano. It's REALLY heavy. Also, the stand is a burden to set up, but very stable once assembled.
That's what comes to mind right now. Overall, I became accustomed to the sound quickly (I have it just 3 days now) and am satisfied with the purchase.
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#1391272 - 03/08/10 12:34 PM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: Salvador]
12345dan Offline
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Registered: 01/22/10
Posts: 19
I agree with you on the sound. Doesnt even sound like a piano sometimes. I wish the sound were brighter as well.

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#1391604 - 03/08/10 06:59 PM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: 12345dan]
voxpops Offline
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Registered: 03/20/07
Posts: 2918
Loc: Oregon
I bought one online a couple of years back and was also a little disappointed when I first heard it. However, for me, the mellower sound of the Korg over the Yamaha was an advantage, and after a few weeks, I came to appreciate the expressiveness of the pianos with the RH3 action, along with the quality of the sound when amplified on stage. Yes, the weight was bordering on uncomfortable for gigging, but the quality of the built-in speakers (which undoubtedly add to the weight) was a boon. I dumped the included stand in favor of a standard quick-fold stage stand.

The SP-250 is getting long in the tooth now, but I believe it can still give the newer Privias a run for their money. I sold mine to purchase a GEM piano of about the same weight and vintage. The GEM is definitely a more accomplished performer, but I do miss the Korg's better amplification and slightly smoother action.

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#1391891 - 03/09/10 04:00 AM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: voxpops]
BazC Offline
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Registered: 01/04/08
Posts: 711
Loc: Cambridgeshire, UK
I suspect the SP250 is due for replacement, the new SP170 outperforms in some areas and is quite a bit cheaper so maybe a new "SP300" is just round the corner? I hope they do a better job of styling the next generation the SP250 looks terrible IMO! smile
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#1391896 - 03/09/10 04:08 AM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: BazC]
Cashley Offline
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Registered: 08/16/09
Posts: 530
The SP 170 is a suave-looking creature.

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#1391919 - 03/09/10 05:42 AM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: Cashley]
Kawai James Offline
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Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 8393
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
Again with the suave... I just don't see it.
The SP170 looks ultra basic to my eyes.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say.

Cheers,
James
x
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#1391924 - 03/09/10 06:35 AM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: Kawai James]
BazC Offline
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Registered: 01/04/08
Posts: 711
Loc: Cambridgeshire, UK


I don't know, I think it looks pretty good. It does look basic and a bit cheap but that's because it is! Cheaper than a PX130! From what I've heard it sounds and plays pretty well too. I'm not so sure about the lack of buttons, you have to press the top 3 keys together to enter edit mode then press other keys for different voices etc. Not sure how well that will work!
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#1392127 - 03/09/10 12:11 PM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: BazC]
Salvador Offline
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Registered: 12/28/09
Posts: 39
BazC, I'll have to disagree with you about the looks of the SP-250... In my opinion it looks better than other DPs in its price range (P85, PX330, etc.), especially the white variant. Seems that they'd put some thought in the visual design area. But then again, this is just my opinion.
Oh, and another thing that should be noted is that it neither has any rhythms\styles nor drum kits. All in all, the SP-250 is a very straight-forward digital PIANO instrument, without all the gadgets around.
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#1392143 - 03/09/10 12:39 PM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: Salvador]
BazC Offline
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Registered: 01/04/08
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Loc: Cambridgeshire, UK
I agree, definitely a matter of taste!
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#1392189 - 03/09/10 01:15 PM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: Kawai James]
Cashley Offline
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Registered: 08/16/09
Posts: 530
Originally Posted By: KAWAI James
Again with the suave... I just don't see it.
The SP170 looks ultra basic to my eyes.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say.

Cheers,
James
x


Well, take a closer look:

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#1392849 - 03/10/10 11:56 AM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: Cashley]
Salvador Offline
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Registered: 12/28/09
Posts: 39
To me it looks much like Yamaha P-85S -

Though solid white is more elegant.
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#1393059 - 03/10/10 05:07 PM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: Salvador]
Kawai James Offline
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 8393
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
Well, perhaps you have a point...

Those plastic pedals on the P85 don't look terribly sturdy.

James
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#1393073 - 03/10/10 05:24 PM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: Kawai James]
snazzyplayer Offline
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Registered: 07/26/09
Posts: 983
Loc: Earth
Originally Posted By: KAWAI James
Well, perhaps you have a point...

Those plastic pedals on the P85 don't look terribly sturdy.

James
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Ahhh, but they are terribly sturdy Jim...tsk tsk tsk...not very nice (or professional) of a Kawai laddie like yourself to be saying uncomplimentary things about a competitor's product. smirk

It just doesn't look good.

I have the stand and pedals for my P-85...they are very well made, and very durable.

Have you actually tried them?


Snazzy
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#1393140 - 03/10/10 07:03 PM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: snazzyplayer]
Kawai James Offline
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 8393
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
Snazzy, I believe I'm entitled to express my personal opinion. wink

Quote:
Have you actually tried them?


Yes.

wink

Cheers,
James
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#1393142 - 03/10/10 07:09 PM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: Kawai James]
snazzyplayer Offline
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Registered: 07/26/09
Posts: 983
Loc: Earth
Originally Posted By: KAWAI James
Snazzy, I believe I'm entitled to express my personal opinion. wink

Quote:
Have you actually tried them?


Yes.

wink

Cheers,
James
x


Well, if you tried them, you wouldn't have expressed such an opinion.

Very unprofessional, nevertheless (my opinion, of course)...you don't see Yamaha, Roland or Korg people doing it.

Snazzy
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#1393146 - 03/10/10 07:14 PM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: snazzyplayer]
Kawai James Offline
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 8393
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
Snazzy, I don't believe expressing one's personal opinion is unprofessional.

Cheers,
James
x
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Nord Electro 3 fan & occasional rare groove player.

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#1393152 - 03/10/10 07:18 PM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: Kawai James]
snazzyplayer Offline
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Registered: 07/26/09
Posts: 983
Loc: Earth
Originally Posted By: KAWAI James
Snazzy, I don't believe expressing one's personal opinion is unprofessional.

Cheers,
James
x


Nor do I, Jim, most of the time, but consider the circumstances under which such an opinion was offered.

Of course, when a Kawai employee criticises a competitor's product, perhaps we shouldn't take such an opinion so seriously after all. wink

Snazzy
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#1393172 - 03/10/10 07:40 PM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: snazzyplayer]
Kawai James Offline
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 8393
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
I think you've hit the nail on the head Snazzy - we're all going to have differences of opinion from time to time, so let's just accept it, and not take each other so seriously.

wink

Cheers,
James
x
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Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own.
Nord Electro 3 fan & occasional rare groove player.

"Richard, none of us could forget you have a CLP-990." - EssBrace, 2014

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#1393185 - 03/10/10 07:47 PM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: Kawai James]
snazzyplayer Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 07/26/09
Posts: 983
Loc: Earth
Originally Posted By: KAWAI James
I think you've hit the nail on the head Snazzy - we're all going to have differences of opinion from time to time, so let's just accept it, and not take each other so seriously.

wink

Cheers,
James
x


Thanks Jim...I usually hit the nail on the head...sometimes people don't like it and aren't as polite as you. wink

The place would be pretty dull if we all agreed on everything.

Snazzy
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#1393186 - 03/10/10 07:49 PM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: snazzyplayer]
Kawai James Offline
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 8393
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
I'll drink to that!

[raises a glass]

Cheers,
James
x
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Nord Electro 3 fan & occasional rare groove player.

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#1393248 - 03/10/10 09:46 PM Re: Korg SP-250 demo and impressions [Re: Kawai James]
kstrong Offline
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Registered: 12/30/09
Posts: 33
I've had mine (okay, it's big brother LP-350) for a few months now, and find the sound varies tremendously based on the speakers it's playing through. I've run it through its stock speakers, my computer speakers, and at least 4 different pairs of headphones of varying quality (Air Canada freebies on up to some "out of my price range" Sennheisers.) No two sound the same, and through each set, different areas sound better than others. My favorite has to be the Radio Shack headphones my wife bought me. (Sorry, I don't remember the model number, but they were in the $20 - $60 range.) Good base response, the mids are clean, and the highs pick up a lot of subtlety you don't hear through the stock speakers. A little more bassy than the Sennheisers, but not enough of a difference to spend 5 times the dough. (Come to think of it, that's why I went with the Korg in the first place--about 90% of the Clavinovas I was comparing to, but less than half the price...)

I like the touch better than my acoustic. It's actually more responsive to my touch. (Note: my acoustic isn't exactly a Steinway.)

Later,

K

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