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#1393078 - 03/10/10 05:30 PM Steinway B
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NEVER in my wildest dreams would I think the PERFECT piano would be a Steinway. Until I get my money, I cannot afford this $86,000 piano, but I would buy it in a heartbeat! I always thought the sounds I had in my heart and mind were non-existent, until today....I played a Steinway B and it was perfect. Nothing more to say except, I'll let the universe take care of how I'll be able to get this piano, but I know I want it! PERFECT!

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#1393080 - 03/10/10 05:34 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Jordy]
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uh oh - bitten by the bug. Welcome to the club, my friend. thumb Hopefully, the next one that is available when you are ready to purchase will be as sweet. Once you find a piano that speaks to you - you are toast!

Regardless of brand, I have yet to hear any two pianos that sound and feel alike. Prep is key, Jordy.

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#1393093 - 03/10/10 05:49 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Inlanding]
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You're rigth Inlanding, cause I've played other Steinways and never have I heard what I heard today. I have been bitten by a huge bug, but I did go and buy $20 worth of lottery tickets today...lol smile

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#1393103 - 03/10/10 06:16 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Jordy]
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Hope your dreams are realized - sooner with the lottery winnings - or later through universal fate!
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#1393236 - 03/10/10 09:25 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: newgeneration]
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Some of those Killers Bs are hard to beat, especially when it is prepped nicely...
I hope you will have your dream piano sooner than later. smile
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#1393238 - 03/10/10 09:28 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Benjamin K]
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Why not me??? Someone's gotta win?


Edited by Jordy (03/10/10 09:28 PM)

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#1393247 - 03/10/10 09:46 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Jordy]
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so where is it ??? smile laugh
(probably better not to tell the rest of us!)

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#1393272 - 03/10/10 10:39 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: sophial]
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Do tell, where is this beast?

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#1393283 - 03/10/10 11:00 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: manofsong]
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I'll tell after the next few lottery drawings...gotta give the mojo a chance to work... smile

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#1393298 - 03/10/10 11:22 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Jordy]
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Originally Posted By: Jordy
I'll tell after the next few lottery drawings...gotta give the mojo a chance to work... smile


laugh Good luck!
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#1393317 - 03/10/10 11:55 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Jordy]
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Originally Posted By: Jordy
NEVER in my wildest dreams would I think the PERFECT piano would be a Steinway. Until I get my money, I cannot afford this $86,000 piano, but I would buy it in a heartbeat! I always thought the sounds I had in my heart and mind were non-existent, until today....I played a Steinway B and it was perfect. Nothing more to say except, I'll let the universe take care of how I'll be able to get this piano, but I know I want it! PERFECT!


Welcome to the club! grin I was fortunate to be able to realize my dream...may yours come true sooner than you think!! There really isn't much better than a really good B. Even most D's.
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#1393339 - 03/11/10 12:41 AM Re: Steinway B [Re: Horowitzian]
Jordy Offline
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Horowitzian, you are very, very fortunate.

Thanks for all the good wishes!!! I believe in miracles, so let's give this a whirl.!

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#1393663 - 03/11/10 01:04 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Jordy]
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Well, didn't happen on last night's drawing...we'll play again Saturday...lol! Common ship...prepare to dock!!! smile

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#1393679 - 03/11/10 01:23 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Jordy]
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Originally Posted By: Jordy
I'll let the universe take care of how I'll be able to get this piano.


You know, there is probobly a lot in that. But I think that you should think about it as a goal, rather than a dream... that way it is not outside your thinking of what is possible, so to say smile

Good luck!

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#1393735 - 03/11/10 02:34 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Wellspear]
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I think that's great advice Wellspear and even though it might sound a little humorous, I do think of it as a reality and not a dream. I've had so many things in my life develop for me financially and otherwise, that the only thing I kept in my heart and mind was that "goal" of knowing I deserve this. I also, at the same time, kept goodness, integrity, sprituality, etc., in the forefront only to watch my "dreams/goals" manifest into form right before my eyes...

Thanks for the wise words.

J

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#1393817 - 03/11/10 04:26 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Jordy]
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Originally Posted By: Jordy
I think that's great advice Wellspear and even though it might sound a little humorous, I do think of it as a reality and not a dream. I've had so many things in my life develop for me financially and otherwise, that the only thing I kept in my heart and mind was that "goal" of knowing I deserve this. I also, at the same time, kept goodness, integrity, sprituality, etc., in the forefront only to watch my "dreams/goals" manifest into form right before my eyes...

Thanks for the wise words.

J


Glad to hear that smile

P.S. There is a documentary movie that was released not so long ago, called "The secret", have you seen it? It deals with the mind - matter subject very interestingly! Recommended...

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#1393905 - 03/11/10 06:21 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Wellspear]
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Been living it for 25 years! Thanks... smile

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#1397442 - 03/17/10 12:36 AM Re: Steinway B [Re: Jordy]
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It's only money - they print it every day. My Hamburg Steinway B was worth the wait.

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#1397540 - 03/17/10 06:50 AM Re: Steinway B [Re: Jordy]
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I just posted my experiences with a Bosendorfer 225 -- you should check out that brand (or Bluthner or Steingraber) -- unless your getting a concert Steinway grand, I don't think they can compete on sound or build quality -- not to mention value retention. Make sure you understand what a new Steinway will be worth in 5 years compared to one of the brands I mentioned -- you pay a huge premium for the Steinway which you will loose in trade-in.

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#1397687 - 03/17/10 10:57 AM Re: Steinway B [Re: Haleydog]
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Originally Posted By: Haleydog
I just posted my experiences with a Bosendorfer 225 -- you should check out that brand (or Bluthner or Steingraber) -- unless your getting a concert Steinway grand, I don't think they can compete on sound or build quality -- not to mention value retention. Make sure you understand what a new Steinway will be worth in 5 years compared to one of the brands I mentioned -- you pay a huge premium for the Steinway which you will loose in trade-in.


There's so much wrong with this post..........personal preferences aside.


Edited by Horowitzian (03/17/10 10:59 AM)
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#1397709 - 03/17/10 11:26 AM Re: Steinway B [Re: Horowitzian]
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Although I own an "A" (and love it), I had never played a "B" until last Sunday. Then I had the good fortune to play 3 of them. All sounded very different, partly due to locations. One was in a smallish living room, carpeted, heavy drapes, other window coverings. The other two were in a warehouse - concrete floors, etc. But those two were just a few feet apart yet had very different sounds and feel (to no one's amazement).

But I saw and heard enough that I am anxiously waiting for the completion of a rebuild by one of the frequent posters here - another week or so. I doubt that I will be able to afford the difference, but if it sounds as good as the others promised, I will have to do some serious soul-searching.
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#1397785 - 03/17/10 01:01 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Bart Kinlein]
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Haleydog, please elaborate!

If I ever spend a ton of money on a piano, I DO CARE about the investment part. I thought Steinways ALWAYS appreciate??/

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#1397811 - 03/17/10 01:27 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Jordy]
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Meh. The thing reads like a dealer plug. I wouldn't give it much weight. Besides, the investment angle is IMHO the least important consideration when you are buying a fine piano. Get the one you like and that makes you happy.


Edited by Horowitzian (03/17/10 01:28 PM)
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#1397812 - 03/17/10 01:28 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Jordy]
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Originally Posted By: Jordy
Haleydog, please elaborate!

If I ever spend a ton of money on a piano, I DO CARE about the investment part. I thought Steinways ALWAYS appreciate??/


In terms of the actual dollars you spend on the piano today, say 80K, you may be able to get the same or better (90K) in 50 years, but there is no adjustment for inflation considered in the equation. I highly doubt that buying a new piano today and 'flipping it' two years later will yield in anything but a finacial loss. Steinway is no exception to this rule despite what dealers would want you to believe.
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#1397828 - 03/17/10 01:40 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: scepticalforumguy]
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A Steinway B is a fine artist instrument. There are not many pianos that would have more expressive potential. The Boesendorfer 225 is somewhat of an unfair comparison as it is a bit longer and extends towards the concert-size pianos. It would be fairer to compare the Hamburg Steinway C with the Boesendorfer but that's difficult as the C is not often seen in the U.S.

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#1397840 - 03/17/10 01:48 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Horowitzian]
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Originally Posted By: Horowitzian
Meh. The thing reads like a dealer plug. I wouldn't give it much weight. Besides, the investment angle is IMHO the least important consideration when you are buying a fine piano. Get the one you like and that makes you happy.



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Jordy,
Since you've found a piano that spoke to you and you enjoyed it immensely, none of the others will really stack up.

Everyone has their personal preference and prep is key anyway. There is no way a Bosie can sound like a Steinway, nor can a Steinway sound like a Bosie. No two Steinways sound or feel the same, just like no two Bosies sound or feel the same - there are too many variables in terms of components and prep.

I do hope you are continuing to play the lotto - I am...;)

Get that B!!!

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#1397841 - 03/17/10 01:49 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: SeilerFan]
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Originally Posted By: SeilerFan
A Steinway B is a fine artist instrument. There are not many pianos that would have more expressive potential. The Boesendorfer 225 is somewhat of an unfair comparison as it is a bit longer and extends towards the concert-size pianos. It would be fairer to compare the Hamburg Steinway C with the Boesendorfer but that's difficult as the C is not often seen in the U.S.


Well said. thumb
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#1397956 - 03/17/10 04:10 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Horowitzian]
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I am still waiting for the day when I can afford a B. I shall travel to Hamburg to select it. (Dream on)

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#1398030 - 03/17/10 05:49 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: jazzpianist]
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I am still playing the lotto!!!! Yes that B is in my heart forever!!!! If I had the money today, I wouldn't sample anything else...that's how sure I am, but today is not the day.

If I had cash today...what do you think the dealer will take (out the door price)?

Just curious.


Edited by Jordy (03/17/10 05:51 PM)

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#1398032 - 03/17/10 05:51 PM Re: Steinway B [Re: Jordy]
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Latest list I saw was around 82k...I guess it would depend upon the dealer. At a Steinway Gallery, you may not get much dealing at all.
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